Coupe Top Speed Limited?
10-31-2002, 09:22 PM
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Originally posted by nov0798
once again why bother.
once again why bother.
I disagree with his treatment of the machine, but then again, that's his business.
Not that its really needed, but you'd be surprised how quickly the C230K hits the Vmax. I gave a riced out Civic that was tailgaiting me the wide eyed view of my tail the other day...went from 70-132 in no time. I hadn't realized I was going that fast till I got the "falling forward" sensation. I slowed back down, let the cruise grab it at 67mph, and about 20 seconds later the Civic came 'buzzing' by me like he had 'won' the race.
10-31-2002, 10:04 PM
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Originally posted by Outland
I disagree with his treatment of the machine, but then again, that's his business.
I disagree with his treatment of the machine, but then again, that's his business.
Erik
10-31-2002, 10:26 PM
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Originally posted by trench
I was under the (perhaps mistaken) impression that there was a difference in how HP is calculated in Europe vs. the US so that in actuality there is no missing 5 hp.
Cheers, BT
I was under the (perhaps mistaken) impression that there was a difference in how HP is calculated in Europe vs. the US so that in actuality there is no missing 5 hp.
Cheers, BT
1 DIN (German) hp equals 0.986 SAE (US) hp
194.7 DIN hp equals 192 SAE hp for the C230k 2.3.
10-31-2002, 10:29 PM
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Originally posted by mdp c230k
According to the math, the gear limited to speed is 149mph.
According to the math, the gear limited to speed is 149mph.
11-01-2002, 12:07 AM
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DIN conversion
Originally posted by Lynn
1 DIN (German) hp equals 0.986 SAE (US) hp. 194.7 DIN hp equals 192 SAE hp for the C230k 2.3.
1 DIN (German) hp equals 0.986 SAE (US) hp. 194.7 DIN hp equals 192 SAE hp for the C230k 2.3.
11-01-2002, 01:54 AM
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Originally posted by tifosiv122
To the first part of your question: I don't think a car should be limited at all.
To the second part: You can never drive 150 ALL the time, but there are plenty of times that you can. Buy 'Mischief 3000' and see a car go 203mph on public roads...and see one get pulled over doing 187 in a 65.
Erik
To the first part of your question: I don't think a car should be limited at all.
To the second part: You can never drive 150 ALL the time, but there are plenty of times that you can. Buy 'Mischief 3000' and see a car go 203mph on public roads...and see one get pulled over doing 187 in a 65.
Erik
Take it to a track somewhere.
Your gonna kill somebody on a public road.
Your irresponsible actions is the reason cars are limited.
11-01-2002, 10:18 AM
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Originally posted by vadim
Here it is: 6000 rpm * (80 mph / 3000 rpm ) = 160mph.
Here it is: 6000 rpm * (80 mph / 3000 rpm ) = 160mph.
therefore top speed is 153mph at 6krpm. It is very hard to judge exact rpm vs speed in higher gears as a small difference in rpm is a large difference in speed.
11-01-2002, 10:37 AM
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Originally posted by DCXdynodog
Take it to a track somewhere.
Take it to a track somewhere.
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11-01-2002, 11:40 AM
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Top Speed
Tire diameter = 24.8 inches (Michelin Pilot Sport 225/45ZR17)
Differental ratio = 3.27:1
Sixth gear ratio = 0.84:1
Final drive ratio = 2.7468 (Diff ratio x sixth gear ratio)
Redline RPM = 6000
Using these parameters, I calculated the top speed by hand and with two on-line calculators. The calculated top speed to 161 mph. The Euro observed top speed is therefore limited by aerodynamic drag.
Results from one on-line calculator:
Vehicle MPH Calculator by Bowling and Grippo
Input Parameters Are the Following:
Differential Gear = 3.27 to 1
Transmission Gear = 0.84 to 1
Tire Diameter (Inches) = 24.80
Engine RPM = 6000
Computation Results:
Computed Vehicle MPH is 161
Differental ratio = 3.27:1
Sixth gear ratio = 0.84:1
Final drive ratio = 2.7468 (Diff ratio x sixth gear ratio)
Redline RPM = 6000
Using these parameters, I calculated the top speed by hand and with two on-line calculators. The calculated top speed to 161 mph. The Euro observed top speed is therefore limited by aerodynamic drag.
Results from one on-line calculator:
Vehicle MPH Calculator by Bowling and Grippo
Input Parameters Are the Following:
Differential Gear = 3.27 to 1
Transmission Gear = 0.84 to 1
Tire Diameter (Inches) = 24.80
Engine RPM = 6000
Computation Results:
Computed Vehicle MPH is 161
11-01-2002, 11:44 AM
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Re: DIN conversion
Originally posted by Mike T.
So what happens to the other 2.3 DIN horses? The EU version is rated at 197....
So what happens to the other 2.3 DIN horses? The EU version is rated at 197....
11-01-2002, 11:45 AM
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Re: Top Speed
Originally posted by Lynn
Tire diameter = 24.8 inches (Michelin Pilot Sport 225/45ZR17)
Differental ratio = 3.27:1
Sixth gear ratio = 0.84:1
Final drive ratio = 2.7468 (Diff ratio x sixth gear ratio)
Redline RPM = 6000
Using these parameters, I calculated the top speed by hand and with two on-line calculators. The calculated top speed to 161 mph. The Euro observed top speed is therefore limited by aerodynamic drag.
Results from one on-line calculator:
Vehicle MPH Calculator by Bowling and Grippo
Input Parameters Are the Following:
Differential Gear = 3.27 to 1
Transmission Gear = 0.84 to 1
Tire Diameter (Inches) = 24.80
Engine RPM = 6000
Computation Results:
Computed Vehicle MPH is 161
Tire diameter = 24.8 inches (Michelin Pilot Sport 225/45ZR17)
Differental ratio = 3.27:1
Sixth gear ratio = 0.84:1
Final drive ratio = 2.7468 (Diff ratio x sixth gear ratio)
Redline RPM = 6000
Using these parameters, I calculated the top speed by hand and with two on-line calculators. The calculated top speed to 161 mph. The Euro observed top speed is therefore limited by aerodynamic drag.
Results from one on-line calculator:
Vehicle MPH Calculator by Bowling and Grippo
Input Parameters Are the Following:
Differential Gear = 3.27 to 1
Transmission Gear = 0.84 to 1
Tire Diameter (Inches) = 24.80
Engine RPM = 6000
Computation Results:
Computed Vehicle MPH is 161
11-01-2002, 11:51 AM
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Re: Re: Top Speed
Originally posted by mdp c230k
Ok. Now do you think the car can pull to redline in 6th gear? That is a pretty tall order considering the overdrive ratio and the weight of the car etc...
Ok. Now do you think the car can pull to redline in 6th gear? That is a pretty tall order considering the overdrive ratio and the weight of the car etc...
11-01-2002, 11:55 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Top Speed
Originally posted by Lynn
Read my post again.
Read my post again.
11-01-2002, 12:41 PM
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tifosiv.
you claim that you went to the track, however in your post you claim to have topped out going downhill. last i checked there are not to many drag strips with hills! also i know you were not at a track because our cars cannot get to that speed in 1320 feet. and i doubt you did it on a auto-x track because this would have to be a huge track for you to get to that speed and sustain it.
you claim that you went to the track, however in your post you claim to have topped out going downhill. last i checked there are not to many drag strips with hills! also i know you were not at a track because our cars cannot get to that speed in 1320 feet. and i doubt you did it on a auto-x track because this would have to be a huge track for you to get to that speed and sustain it.
11-01-2002, 12:51 PM
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Originally posted by nov0798
tifosiv.
you claim that you went to the track, however in your post you claim to have topped out going downhill. last i checked there are not to many drag strips with hills! also i know you were not at a track because our cars cannot get to that speed in 1320 feet. and i doubt you did it on a auto-x track because this would have to be a huge track for you to get to that speed and sustain it.
tifosiv.
you claim that you went to the track, however in your post you claim to have topped out going downhill. last i checked there are not to many drag strips with hills! also i know you were not at a track because our cars cannot get to that speed in 1320 feet. and i doubt you did it on a auto-x track because this would have to be a huge track for you to get to that speed and sustain it.
Erik
11-01-2002, 11:28 PM
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Everyone else here drives at no more than 55 MPH on public roads and has a laurel-wreathed picture of Ralph Nader hanging from their rear-view mirror, right
11-02-2002, 12:44 AM
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Originally posted by tifosiv122
Well, since I have a 1/4mile track less then a mile away, ohh and an auto-X track in the same location, who said I did my top speed run on a public road? I never take risks with other people's lives.
Erik
Well, since I have a 1/4mile track less then a mile away, ohh and an auto-X track in the same location, who said I did my top speed run on a public road? I never take risks with other people's lives.
Erik
We do need to think out there though...
Salt Flats would be fun eh?
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