Pics of my Car with Carbon Fiber hood...
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2001 C240
thinking about it... i think i'm just going to stop posting and just see what people are saying on the board just to grasp needed info... i don't think i've ever had anything good to bring to this forum... so i'll just lie back and listen... at least i'll try
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2007 C230WZ
Originally posted by SoCal240/6
Needs more stickers. Can still kind of see through that windshield.
Needs more stickers. Can still kind of see through that windshield.
I've seen Brabus car in person(he's my friend) and the car looks great. Looks like you need to quit drinking Haterade.:p
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I don't see the point in having this type of mod unless you're just going for the "look". I mean, you're just saving 15-20 pounds max, and yet you're paying hundreds if not thousands just to do so. For a car that weighs 3500 pounds that isn't much to shed. Besides, if you were truly concerned about weight, why not strip out the air con, stereo, and other non-essential things inside the car? Do what Porsche does and strip out the door knob and replace it with a small latch.
Maybe that's already done to this car. If so then it'd make more sense. If not, then I think it's just more show rather than more performance.
Maybe that's already done to this car. If so then it'd make more sense. If not, then I think it's just more show rather than more performance.
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Originally posted by oggle
I don't see the point in having this type of mod unless you're just going for the "look". I mean, you're just saving 15-20 pounds max, and yet you're paying hundreds if not thousands just to do so. For a car that weighs 3500 pounds that isn't much to shed. Besides, if you were truly concerned about weight, why not strip out the air con, stereo, and other non-essential things inside the car? Do what Porsche does and strip out the door knob and replace it with a small latch.
Maybe that's already done to this car. If so then it'd make more sense. If not, then I think it's just more show rather than more performance.
I don't see the point in having this type of mod unless you're just going for the "look". I mean, you're just saving 15-20 pounds max, and yet you're paying hundreds if not thousands just to do so. For a car that weighs 3500 pounds that isn't much to shed. Besides, if you were truly concerned about weight, why not strip out the air con, stereo, and other non-essential things inside the car? Do what Porsche does and strip out the door knob and replace it with a small latch.
Maybe that's already done to this car. If so then it'd make more sense. If not, then I think it's just more show rather than more performance.
If you're serious about saving the pounds for racing, there's better things to spend that much $$$ on.
If you're doing it for the look, it'd be nice to at least buy a CF hood with some flair to it, maybe a hgood scoop, vents, something original/different.
If its just for show, then I'd laugh if some company started offering "fake" CF painted hoods, I bet they'd sell a ton.
BTW I'm not hating, if you got the money do it, just hate to see Civics and Integras around that have spent the money on the CF hood before spending the money upgrading performance.
I bet a lot of us could save 20 lbs of weight in the car just by going to the gym!
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Originally posted by xc240x
what i find funny about all this is that when i posted a pic of my car and my hood... most people bad mouthed me about it, now brabusc posts pics of his car with the hood and he gets more positive comments... ofcourse i can't afford a kleeman supercharger or a brabus body kit, at least not yet... but looks-wise, we have the same hood and people bashed me for it... you may all hate my wing (i could care less) but you could at least not hate on the whole car just because of one part of it! And brabusc, the car looks great, congrats. And yes... I am expecting s#*t for this post... so please lay it thick, so i can enjoy myself reading it.
what i find funny about all this is that when i posted a pic of my car and my hood... most people bad mouthed me about it, now brabusc posts pics of his car with the hood and he gets more positive comments... ofcourse i can't afford a kleeman supercharger or a brabus body kit, at least not yet... but looks-wise, we have the same hood and people bashed me for it... you may all hate my wing (i could care less) but you could at least not hate on the whole car just because of one part of it! And brabusc, the car looks great, congrats. And yes... I am expecting s#*t for this post... so please lay it thick, so i can enjoy myself reading it.
1. your car is burgundy(?) w/ a black cf hood. really stood out. brabus' is more subtle
2. your car was modded w/ more exterior parts (burgundy wheels + big tailwing). so as a whole, your car was again, less subtle.
3. people started getting used to the idea about cf hoods on an mb (so you're sort of like the pioneer). when brabus' posted his pics, it didn't seem so novel anymore b/c you took the brunt of the criticisms.
4. brabus didn't show his tattoo... (thank you
)note that i don't hate your car - i am sort of a let the guy do what he wants w/ his car type of person. i also understand that like fashion shows, show cars are expected to look outrageous.
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Originally posted by young
a few comments:
1. your car is burgundy(?) w/ a black cf hood. really stood out. brabus' is more subtle
2. your car was modded w/ more exterior parts (burgundy wheels + big tailwing). so as a whole, your car was again, less subtle.
3. people started getting used to the idea about cf hoods on an mb (so you're sort of like the pioneer). when brabus' posted his pics, it didn't seem so novel anymore b/c you took the brunt of the criticisms.
4. brabus didn't show his tattoo... (thank you)
note that i don't hate your car - i am sort of a let the guy do what he wants w/ his car type of person. i also understand that like fashion shows, show cars are expected to look outrageous.
a few comments:
1. your car is burgundy(?) w/ a black cf hood. really stood out. brabus' is more subtle
2. your car was modded w/ more exterior parts (burgundy wheels + big tailwing). so as a whole, your car was again, less subtle.
3. people started getting used to the idea about cf hoods on an mb (so you're sort of like the pioneer). when brabus' posted his pics, it didn't seem so novel anymore b/c you took the brunt of the criticisms.
4. brabus didn't show his tattoo... (thank you
)note that i don't hate your car - i am sort of a let the guy do what he wants w/ his car type of person. i also understand that like fashion shows, show cars are expected to look outrageous.
My biggest complaint, or should I say, what I don't understand, is why people buy a C240 and then do all this to it? If you add up everything that BrabusC has done to his car, it costs more money than a brand new C32.
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Originally posted by revstriker
My biggest complaint, or should I say, what I don't understand, is why people buy a C240 and then do all this to it? If you add up everything that BrabusC has done to his car, it costs more money than a brand new C32.
My biggest complaint, or should I say, what I don't understand, is why people buy a C240 and then do all this to it? If you add up everything that BrabusC has done to his car, it costs more money than a brand new C32.
1. brabus likes a manual transmission car
2. his costs are mitigated by sponsors
3. some people like individualized cars (i do!)
4. cars = fashion for some people
5. modding is addictive (i started w/ mats... and ended up w/ a pulley... how did that happen??? what's next?)
6. show car
probably, #6 is the biggest point people fail to grasp. just b/c a show car is modded in a certain way doesn't mean everyone is going to do it to their daily driver. it is an idea expressed to provoke a response. sometimes, it is functional; sometimes aesthetic. but it is often extreme to push the envelope and i respect that (b/c i'm easily bored...)
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2002 C230 Coupe Black/Charcoal C5 C7 Auto
Originally posted by young
actually, it was sort of explained, but here's my take on it:
1. brabus likes a manual transmission car
2. his costs are mitigated by sponsors
3. some people like individualized cars (i do!)
4. cars = fashion for some people
5. modding is addictive (i started w/ mats... and ended up w/ a pulley... how did that happen??? what's next?)
6. show car
probably, #6 is the biggest point people fail to grasp. just b/c a show car is modded in a certain way doesn't mean everyone is going to do it to their daily driver. it is an idea expressed to provoke a response. sometimes, it is functional; sometimes aesthetic. but it is often extreme to push the envelope and i respect that (b/c i'm easily bored...)
actually, it was sort of explained, but here's my take on it:
1. brabus likes a manual transmission car
2. his costs are mitigated by sponsors
3. some people like individualized cars (i do!)
4. cars = fashion for some people
5. modding is addictive (i started w/ mats... and ended up w/ a pulley... how did that happen??? what's next?)
6. show car
probably, #6 is the biggest point people fail to grasp. just b/c a show car is modded in a certain way doesn't mean everyone is going to do it to their daily driver. it is an idea expressed to provoke a response. sometimes, it is functional; sometimes aesthetic. but it is often extreme to push the envelope and i respect that (b/c i'm easily bored...)
I may not like everything on BCClass but its a show car so it has to be outlandish/provoking. I've always (OPINION ALERT) thought that things like CF hood and black rims are for cars with serious power and C24k HAS serious power for a C240 so its suiting IMO.
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true. i'm not gasping attention, i just want my car to stand out than all the other same cars on the road. i have a big thing with overdoing it, so i try to make my mods sporty, but at the same time still keep some class to the car. its funny, my future mods list just keeps growing. and i thought it would all soon end. guess not. HEHEHE
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2002 White C230 Kompressor Coupe(Black Interior)
Looks Gewd with the Kit and carbon fiber hood! But dayumnn.. the stickers are freakin huge hahah.. it's all gewd tho, i guess u have 2 represent those products.. hehe.
hahah.. it's all gewd tho, i guess u have 2 represent those products.. hehe.
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lovin the hood my man!!! How does it fit? was the installation hard? hmmmm now pics of the nice little Kompressor System!!!!
BTW If you dont have anything nice to say, dont say anything at all... don't bash on other people's rides...
BTW If you dont have anything nice to say, dont say anything at all... don't bash on other people's rides...
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IMO, carbon fiber has its place, in racing applications. As we all know, Formula One chassis are constructed completely of carbon fiber... not only the tubs and skins, but even the suspension arms are carbon fiber. The only reasons for CF in these applications are weight savings and crush strength, both performance issues unrelated to (show) appearance.
However, at the end of the day, these cars are fully painted in sponsorship liveries, so as to differentiate one competitor from another. F1 manufacturers couldn't give a rip about "stylin' with CF."
Although I have no "hatred" for such mods, the contrast needs to be sharply drawn between CF racing applications and Consumer Road use. Carbon fiber applications in road cars (short of a McLaren F1 coupe) have absolutely no relationship to performance. What performance advantage is achieved in shaving .0058% in weight from a 3,400 lb car with a CF hood? Instead (IMO) CF hoods are intended purely for show. Which cuts right to the chase of the Sport Tuning (Rocket Racer) movement... style (show) over substance (go).
My daughter's b-friend drives a tuner Honda with a bunch of "lightweight" mods including a CF hood... But he also carries a 2-foot-long key chain dangling from his Dockers that's gotta weigh nearly 20-pounds, too. Go figure.
However, at the end of the day, these cars are fully painted in sponsorship liveries, so as to differentiate one competitor from another. F1 manufacturers couldn't give a rip about "stylin' with CF."
Although I have no "hatred" for such mods, the contrast needs to be sharply drawn between CF racing applications and Consumer Road use. Carbon fiber applications in road cars (short of a McLaren F1 coupe) have absolutely no relationship to performance. What performance advantage is achieved in shaving .0058% in weight from a 3,400 lb car with a CF hood? Instead (IMO) CF hoods are intended purely for show. Which cuts right to the chase of the Sport Tuning (Rocket Racer) movement... style (show) over substance (go).
My daughter's b-friend drives a tuner Honda with a bunch of "lightweight" mods including a CF hood... But he also carries a 2-foot-long key chain dangling from his Dockers that's gotta weigh nearly 20-pounds, too. Go figure.
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Originally posted by MB-BOB
Although I have no "hatred" for such mods, the contrast needs to be sharply drawn between CF racing applications and Consumer Road use. Carbon fiber applications in road cars (short of a McLaren F1 coupe) have absolutely no relationship to performance.
Although I have no "hatred" for such mods, the contrast needs to be sharply drawn between CF racing applications and Consumer Road use. Carbon fiber applications in road cars (short of a McLaren F1 coupe) have absolutely no relationship to performance.
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Honestly I got the hood because...
1) I got a good deal on it
2) the blower is a lot more weight and I wanted to compensate by getting a lighter hood
3) it doesnt stand out too much because my car is black
Im going to paint it later whenever I feel.
Also, the stock hood weighs well over 80lbs. The CF hood weighs like 10 lbs.
1) I got a good deal on it
2) the blower is a lot more weight and I wanted to compensate by getting a lighter hood
3) it doesnt stand out too much because my car is black
Im going to paint it later whenever I feel.
Also, the stock hood weighs well over 80lbs. The CF hood weighs like 10 lbs.
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Originally posted by oggle
I don't see the point in having this type of mod
I don't see the point in having this type of mod
Btw- BrabusCClass your car looks great.
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BrabusCclass, did you see the weather news today? do you know if it's going to rain on saturday or not. If it's going to rain, i don't think i'm gonna wash my car...
guess what...few hours after i washed the ML430 today, it RAINed...now it's all dirty again.
guess what...few hours after i washed the ML430 today, it RAINed...now it's all dirty again.
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Originally posted by BrabusCClass
Honestly I got the hood because...
1) I got a good deal on it
2) the blower is a lot more weight and I wanted to compensate by getting a lighter hood
3) it doesnt stand out too much because my car is black
Im going to paint it later whenever I feel.
Also, the stock hood weighs well over 80lbs. The CF hood weighs like 10 lbs.
Honestly I got the hood because...
1) I got a good deal on it
2) the blower is a lot more weight and I wanted to compensate by getting a lighter hood
3) it doesnt stand out too much because my car is black
Im going to paint it later whenever I feel.
Also, the stock hood weighs well over 80lbs. The CF hood weighs like 10 lbs.
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Many people don't understand the benefits of decreasing weight. A carbon fiber hood sheds about 60lbs of weight, which in accelleration translates to about 6HP. 6HP is more than most muffler's add these days. Not only does it make the car accellerate slightly faster, but it also works in the opposite direction. Braking is easier, as there is less mass to stop. Handling is also increased as there is less weight being transferred back and forth. Combined with a CF trunk, you can shave an excess 120+ pounds off the car.
