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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 01:37 AM
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19" Wheel Fitment Question

Ok so Ive searched the forums and cant find a difinitive answer and since my W209 forum is slow I thought Id ask in here since our wheels are a direct swap. Will these wheels fit our cars:

19x8.5 et 33 front and
19x9.5 et 40 rears

Please notice the width and the offsets

Your could help is appreciated

Thanks in advance!
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by kiamcoj
Ok so Ive searched the forums and cant find a difinitive answer and since my W209 forum is slow I thought Id ask in here since our wheels are a direct swap. Will these wheels fit our cars:

19x8.5 et 33 front and
19x9.5 et 40 rears

Please notice the width and the offsets

Your could help is appreciated

Thanks in advance!
Not a wheel expert here but when I asked similar questions other people told me it's impossible to tell unless you include a picture of the wheels you're talking about. I believe this is because the more knowledgeable guys need to see the "spoke design" and "lip size" to see if they will have enough clearance for our brake calipers.

hope you find what you need.Good luck

Joe
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 12:48 PM
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yes, spoke design and lip size play a large role in the front to clear the sport calipers. mine are et35 with a 1.5" lip and they clear the calipers but have a very generous curved spoke. i've seen et 32's that do not clear. worse case is with et33 that you get a 3mm spacer.

for the et40 rear, you will probably want around a 5mm spacer....

another critical fitment issue is your trie size set-up..what are you planning on running? what about lowering...coilovers planned?
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 02:04 PM
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Word of advice , 19s are awesome theres no doubt about that but someitmes its just to big 19x9.5 in the rear is a monstor and probubly very heavy. Spacers and coilovers are a must for that fitment.
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Coupe's_FTW!
Word of advice , 19s are awesome theres no doubt about that but someitmes its just to big 19x9.5 in the rear is a monstor and probubly very heavy. Spacers and coilovers are a must for that fitment.
19x9.5's fit fine with the proper offset
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 02:26 PM
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Yeah that is true. But it doesn't just work! you have to tweak things here and there, to get the right look. with a basic drop, you are probably not going to be happy with the gap in the front. thus needing to clip a coil and a half to make it sit right. If your planning on going 265, forget about a decent drop and having rear passengers. your best bet it to run a 255 or 245 stretch on a 19. But really its all about here your money is, and what look your trying to achieve.
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 02:54 PM
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I run 7 mm spacers up front with ET38 and 225 tires.

For the rears, I have ET 38 with no spacers and 255 tires.

Everything runs well except for slight rubbing on rear driver side. This can be resolved by shaving a few tabs.
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 04:30 PM
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Yeah that is true. But it doesn't just work! you have to tweak things here and there, to get the right look. with a basic drop, you are probably not going to be happy with the gap in the front. thus needing to clip a coil and a half to make it sit right. If your planning on going 265, forget about a decent drop and having rear passengers. your best bet it to run a 255 or 245 stretch on a 19. But really its all about here your money is, and what look your trying to achieve.
not always. I didn't use spacers, run 265's in the rear and the car looks fine without a drop. I admit I rub once in a while over extreme circumstances but it's very rare.
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by coin
I run 7 mm spacers up front with ET38 and 225 tires.

For the rears, I have ET 38 with no spacers and 255 tires.

Everything runs well except for slight rubbing on rear driver side. This can be resolved by shaving a few tabs.
wait wait! i'm also rubbing bad ob the rear driver side! it's so weird, but i don't rub on my rear right, only my rear left, and it's irking the isht outta me! i even rolled my fenders! let me know what you did!
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 04:55 PM
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wait wait! i'm also rubbing bad ob the rear driver side! it's so weird, but i don't rub on my rear right, only my rear left, and it's irking the isht outta me! i even rolled my fenders! let me know what you did!
it's the weight u r putting on to the left side!
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 05:00 PM
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it's the weight u r putting on to the left side!
haha, but i'm not even that big

seriously though, it's only on the drivers rear that rubs so much, and it's annoying the **** outta me!
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 05:04 PM
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it's the weight u r putting on to the left side!
AHAAHAH yeahhh right tommy ur like 250 lbs. AHAHAH
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Old Mar 19, 2008 | 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Mu9enx
wait wait! i'm also rubbing bad ob the rear driver side! it's so weird, but i don't rub on my rear right, only my rear left, and it's irking the isht outta me! i even rolled my fenders! let me know what you did!
So you roll your fenders and still have rubbing issue? What rear tire size are you running?

I used 255/35 (not recommended) and shaved some tabs but still have slight rubbing. I'm trying to replace my current set-up with 255/30 tires.

I read somewhere that it's common to have only the driver side rubbing.
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Old Mar 19, 2008 | 02:30 AM
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AHAAHAH yeahhh right tommy ur like 250 lbs. AHAHAH


damn i must be a pudgyshortfatkid. damn LOL

150pds strong!
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Old Mar 19, 2008 | 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted by coin
So you roll your fenders and still have rubbing issue? What rear tire size are you running?

I used 255/35 (not recommended) and shaved some tabs but still have slight rubbing. I'm trying to replace my current set-up with 255/30 tires.

I read somewhere that it's common to have only the driver side rubbing.
what tabs are you talking about? for some reason, i'm running 255 in the rears, and since i have square sidewalls, i know that constitutes some of the rubbage. but it seems my drivers rear rubs a lot more! i think i'm also hitting my impact strip, i see it f cked up. let me know what you did!
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Old Mar 19, 2008 | 03:07 AM
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Gentlemen,

I've been running 19 x 8.5 et 38, tire size 245/30 in the front, 19 x 9.5 et 38, tire size 265/30 in the rear. I was told by the tire shop that I needed to run 5mm spacers all the way around for clearance. With the spacers on I picked up vibration through the steering wheel at around 60 mph and the rear driver side tire rubbed on the fenderwell when I went over any bumps. Took the car to another shop and they recommended that the car should have the correct clearance without the spacers. Took them off and the rubbing stopped in the rear but I starting deflecting the inside lip of the front rim into the strut tower. Put the front spacers back on and the road vibration has returned but no more rubbing in the rear issue since then. The only thing I need to debate about is whether I like the look of the rims enough to offset the road vibration I get when I'm driving on the freeway. Hope this info is helpful.
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Old Mar 19, 2008 | 03:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Mu9enx
what tabs are you talking about? for some reason, i'm running 255 in the rears, and since i have square sidewalls, i know that constitutes some of the rubbage. but it seems my drivers rear rubs a lot more! i think i'm also hitting my impact strip, i see it f cked up. let me know what you did!
Someone here posted pictures of the tabs I'm talking about. But I forgot who
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Old Mar 19, 2008 | 03:36 AM
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Gentlemen,

I've been running 19 x 8.5 et 38, tire size 245/30 in the front, 19 x 9.5 et 38, tire size 265/30 in the rear. I was told by the tire shop that I needed to run 5mm spacers all the way around for clearance. With the spacers on I picked up vibration through the steering wheel at around 60 mph and the rear driver side tire rubbed on the fenderwell when I went over any bumps. Took the car to another shop and they recommended that the car should have the correct clearance without the spacers. Took them off and the rubbing stopped in the rear but I starting deflecting the inside lip of the front rim into the strut tower. Put the front spacers back on and the road vibration has returned but no more rubbing in the rear issue since then. The only thing I need to debate about is whether I like the look of the rims enough to offset the road vibration I get when I'm driving on the freeway. Hope this info is helpful.
If you use hubcentric spacers, there should be no vibrations.
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Old Mar 19, 2008 | 06:55 AM
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Gentlemen,

I've been running 19 x 8.5 et 38, tire size 245/30 in the front, 19 x 9.5 et 38, tire size 265/30 in the rear. I was told by the tire shop that I needed to run 5mm spacers all the way around for clearance. With the spacers on I picked up vibration through the steering wheel at around 60 mph and the rear driver side tire rubbed on the fenderwell when I went over any bumps. Took the car to another shop and they recommended that the car should have the correct clearance without the spacers. Took them off and the rubbing stopped in the rear but I starting deflecting the inside lip of the front rim into the strut tower. Put the front spacers back on and the road vibration has returned but no more rubbing in the rear issue since then. The only thing I need to debate about is whether I like the look of the rims enough to offset the road vibration I get when I'm driving on the freeway. Hope this info is helpful.

i think you need to re-balance your wheels. thats probably whats creating the vibrations.
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Old Mar 19, 2008 | 01:34 PM
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Gentlemen,

I've been running 19 x 8.5 et 38, tire size 245/30 in the front, 19 x 9.5 et 38, tire size 265/30 in the rear. I was told by the tire shop that I needed to run 5mm spacers all the way around for clearance. With the spacers on I picked up vibration through the steering wheel at around 60 mph and the rear driver side tire rubbed on the fenderwell when I went over any bumps. Took the car to another shop and they recommended that the car should have the correct clearance without the spacers. Took them off and the rubbing stopped in the rear but I starting deflecting the inside lip of the front rim into the strut tower. Put the front spacers back on and the road vibration has returned but no more rubbing in the rear issue since then. The only thing I need to debate about is whether I like the look of the rims enough to offset the road vibration I get when I'm driving on the freeway. Hope this info is helpful.
5mm "hubcentric" spacer is a little misleading when people say it. an H&R 5mm spacer has the 66.6 center bore so it sits "centered" on the car but it doesn't have a lip for the rim to ride in....but it doesn't matter because if you have 66.6mm bore rims, the spacer is centered on the car and the rim is centered on the car...that's all that counts. I have these and have absolutely 0 vibration at any speed. If you're using 5mm "universal" spacers form Pep Boys...you def risk vibration.

and I gotta ask...why in the world did you do a 245/30 on the front? that's too wide (and too small a diameter....a half inch shorter than the rear). Most people get rubbing with 235/35's...i even switched to 225/35's to avoid this.

I'm still trying to figure out how you got an 8.5" wide rim with an et38 offset to fit over the large brakes w/o a spacer
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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 02:15 AM
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Thanks for all of the feedback. FYI on the spacers, they are 5mm hubcentric spacers from H&R. To clarify, the vibration is only felt through the steering wheel at around 60 mph, The ride however is as smooth as 19" with low profile tires can be. In regards to your last question on rubbing, with the spacers off, the front rims didn't hit the calipers but would scrub when I tried backing up and turning. I was told that it was just the tires rubbing against the inner felt wall, but after 2k miles I started hearing a clipping noise from the front when I went into a turn at speeds higher than 40mph. come to find out that the inner rim lip was deflecting off of the strut tower. Spacers went back and scrubbing and clipping noise is gone from the front.
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