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Old 05-19-2008, 02:46 AM
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'02 C230 Coupe vs '01 BMW 323

hey... my friend got a 01 BMW 323 and in the past 2 weeks he asked me 3 times to drag (or 1/4mile) with him do i have any chance ?
btw we are both automatic and stock engines.......
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2002 C230 coupe , NOt THE AVATAR!!
yes

btw, what's fun draggin a slow car???

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It would be close, with the edge going to the 323. I believe a 323 automatic does 0-60 in 7.1 - 7.4 seconds. The C230 Coupe automatic does 0-60 in 7.5 - 7.8 seconds. The BMW will have an advantage on the launch with the inline-6 (torquey motor) versus the C230 since you'll need to spool-up the supercharger to get boost. You may want to torque-brake the car to get the rear tires spinning and get yourself into boost at the line. (turn ESP off to do this.) Add an ASP pulley, and you're into the mid-to-high 6 second 0-60mph range and you should be able to walk the 323.

Please do this on a dragstrip if you and your friend do run against each other. Or better yet, don't do this at all since it really doesn't prove much.
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It would be close, with the edge going to the 323. I believe a 323 automatic does 0-60 in 7.1 - 7.4 seconds. The C230 Coupe automatic does 0-60 in 7.5 - 7.8 seconds. The BMW will have an advantage on the launch with the inline-6 (torquey motor) versus the C230 since you'll need to spool-up the supercharger to get boost. You may want to torque-brake the car to get the rear tires spinning and get yourself into boost at the line. (turn ESP off to do this.) Add an ASP pulley, and you're into the mid-to-high 6 second 0-60mph range and you should be able to walk the 323.

Please do this on a dragstrip if you and your friend do run against each other. Or better yet, don't do this at all since it really doesn't prove much.
doesnt proove much ?? lol.. its not even on a dragstrip, we "drag" couple times a day on the road.. until he proposed to drag on a dragstrip just to compare.. just for fun..
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...The C230 Coupe automatic does 0-60 in 7.5 - 7.8 seconds. ...
An accelerometer based test device gave me an average of 7.5 of my stock coupe back at around 45K miles. This was with one person and about 1/4 tank of fuel.
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Yeh, maybe not a 330 but I walk away from 323's.

Originally Posted by rtking
It would be close, with the edge going to the 323. I believe a 323 automatic does 0-60 in 7.1 - 7.4 seconds. The C230 Coupe automatic does 0-60 in 7.5 - 7.8 seconds. The BMW will have an advantage on the launch with the inline-6 (torquey motor) versus the C230 since you'll need to spool-up the supercharger to get boost. You may want to torque-brake the car to get the rear tires spinning and get yourself into boost at the line. (turn ESP off to do this.) Add an ASP pulley, and you're into the mid-to-high 6 second 0-60mph range and you should be able to walk the 323.

Please do this on a dragstrip if you and your friend do run against each other. Or better yet, don't do this at all since it really doesn't prove much.
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How about a 01 325i e46 against a pullied 02 coupe ?
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C230 coupe, nothing special :)
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How about a 01 325i e46 against a pullied 02 coupe ?
I have the Kleemann pully on my car so its a lil different.. 323's 318 etc... They are not very fast, The only non M3 Bmw 3 series I would be worried about is the 330 xi . Those are the AWD BMW's with roughly 200bhp off the line they are going to take you but they die out of grunt @ about 100mph. Personally I dont think that 3 series are fast @ all. I would be more worried if I pulled up next to a mini cooper S than a super heavy BMW 3 series. Infact I have raced a mini cooper S and lost. It started @ about 70mph and I just couldent get infront of him, nearing 130mph I still couldent grab him even with the draft.

In my opinion the 3 series is a waste of time/money unless you purchase a M3, the 1 series offers a v6 twin turbo and is cheaper. Its the same thing with the C class, as soon as you buy a C230 SS, your like wow, I really should have tried to find a used C32 or a new C55.


Also , I think that your car will take the 323, but without a pully off the line is not how you want to start. I would suggest a 20mph roll.
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Originally Posted by Jah Know
I have the Kleemann pully on my car so its a lil different.. 323's 318 etc... They are not very fast, The only non M3 Bmw 3 series I would be worried about is the 330 xi . Those are the AWD BMW's with roughly 200bhp off the line they are going to take you but they die out of grunt @ about 100mph. Personally I dont think that 3 series are fast @ all. I would be more worried if I pulled up next to a mini cooper S than a super heavy BMW 3 series. Infact I have raced a mini cooper S and lost. It started @ about 70mph and I just couldent get infront of him, nearing 130mph I still couldent grab him even with the draft.

In my opinion the 3 series is a waste of time/money unless you purchase a M3, the 1 series offers a v6 twin turbo and is cheaper. Its the same thing with the C class, as soon as you buy a C230 SS, your like wow, I really should have tried to find a used C32 or a new C55.


Also , I think that your car will take the 323, but without a pully off the line is not how you want to start. I would suggest a 20mph roll.

well im pretty sure that the benz c230 coupe is heavier than the 3series... and i didnt understand wt u said about the c class....
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C230 coupe, nothing special :)
Not sure about the weight, I know that the 3 series coupes are fairly heavy. What I am saying about he C class is that I would advise that if your intending on racing and such, I would purchase a C32 as opposed to a c230 coupe or sedan.
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Originally Posted by Jah Know
I have the Kleemann pully on my car so its a lil different.. 323's 318 etc... They are not very fast, The only non M3 Bmw 3 series I would be worried about is the 330 xi . Those are the AWD BMW's with roughly 200bhp off the line they are going to take you but they die out of grunt @ about 100mph. Personally I dont think that 3 series are fast @ all. I would be more worried if I pulled up next to a mini cooper S than a super heavy BMW 3 series. Infact I have raced a mini cooper S and lost. It started @ about 70mph and I just couldent get infront of him, nearing 130mph I still couldent grab him even with the draft.

In my opinion the 3 series is a waste of time/money unless you purchase a M3, the 1 series offers a v6 twin turbo and is cheaper. Its the same thing with the C class, as soon as you buy a C230 SS, your like wow, I really should have tried to find a used C32 or a new C55.

Also , I think that your car will take the 323, but without a pully off the line is not how you want to start. I would suggest a 20mph roll.
truth! if i only knew more about MB's in general, i would've looked for an ///AMG. but oh well, i <3 my car
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truth! if i only knew more about MB's in general, i would've looked for an ///AMG. but oh well, i <3 my car
yeah i know ud better look for a fine AMG, but thats only if u can afford it.... and im pretty sure the benz is 150 200 pounds heavier...
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you will take a 325 or 323 depending ont he circumstances maybe even 328's (all older models)
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so that's good news.
I remember driving a 325i(MT), it's got a lot of torque even at low rev. (on second gear especially, maybe more than the coupe on 2nd)
but definitely 330 is out of reach.
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bmw,s are not that quick come to think about it my c200 k could go a bit quicker i just brought it 2002 black leather charcoal color with 18,s chrome very sexy sunroof and all my second car is a 2002 holden ss ute 5.7 liter now that has ***** big hair ones for dragging but fuel prices are not cheap $1.55 a liter in Australia
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... but fuel prices are not cheap $1.55 a liter in Australia
That's $5.89 US per gallon. Ouch. But we're not far away. $4.19 in Orange County, CA for 1 gallon of premium fuel, and over $5 for diesel. Eeesh...

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