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Originally posted by Matt230K
This is true. I think I could do it very easily if I could just reach the gas a little easier with the right side of my foot. It's still okay to let off the brake to hit the gas in normal driving, and then get back on the brake. But if I ever took the car to the track someday, it wouldn't work to lift off the brake just to blip the throttle. I think a pedal modification would help.
This is true. I think I could do it very easily if I could just reach the gas a little easier with the right side of my foot. It's still okay to let off the brake to hit the gas in normal driving, and then get back on the brake. But if I ever took the car to the track someday, it wouldn't work to lift off the brake just to blip the throttle. I think a pedal modification would help.
If you ever get the opportunity to drive a real race car, the opposite problem exists. Many formula cars, like the formula fords (now dodges) they used to use at Skip Barber had an "ear" at the right-hand side top of the brake pedal which virtually bridged the entire gap to the gas pedal. Stepping on the brake and gas came naturally. In fact, w/ size 12s, if you wanted to really stand on the brakes hard, but without hitting the gas, you had to roll the inside of your foot inward, and bring your knees together. Took some getting used to
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Hrh, those are some nice pedals!
I'm a size 11, but my feet are narrow, so I actually must "heel-toe". My friend however, who is only a size 10, has feet wide enough where he uses the left part of his foot for the brake and the right side for the throttle in the same car.
Alas, in ten years or so when all gearboxes are sequential, we won't get to do this anymore.
I'm a size 11, but my feet are narrow, so I actually must "heel-toe". My friend however, who is only a size 10, has feet wide enough where he uses the left part of his foot for the brake and the right side for the throttle in the same car.
Alas, in ten years or so when all gearboxes are sequential, we won't get to do this anymore.
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Originally posted by MarkL
Question for you guys -- how does the fact that applying the brake cuts the throttle on our throttle-by-wire cars affect heel and toe operation?
Question for you guys -- how does the fact that applying the brake cuts the throttle on our throttle-by-wire cars affect heel and toe operation?
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Originally posted by MarkL
Question for you guys -- how does the fact that applying the brake cuts the throttle on our throttle-by-wire cars affect heel and toe operation?
Question for you guys -- how does the fact that applying the brake cuts the throttle on our throttle-by-wire cars affect heel and toe operation?
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Originally posted by Matt230K
That's a good question. It's not only on automatics. Since I have to lift the brake to reach the gas, I haven't had a chance to test it. It would be interesting for someone with wide enough feet to test.
That's a good question. It's not only on automatics. Since I have to lift the brake to reach the gas, I haven't had a chance to test it. It would be interesting for someone with wide enough feet to test.
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Originally posted by JustinTRW
It would be dangerous to try in anything but an empty lot but maybe you could stick it in neutral and then left foot brake to try this.
It would be dangerous to try in anything but an empty lot but maybe you could stick it in neutral and then left foot brake to try this.
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Originally posted by MacPhisto
Yeah, my bad. People also call it "powershifting" and some other things that I can't repeat here.
Yeah, my bad. People also call it "powershifting" and some other things that I can't repeat here.
I know he is very very stupid so i would not belive a word he is saying.Where can you rent a car with a manual tranny?
No car rental in my area rents cars with manuals, i tried. At least all the big companies like Budget, Enterprise, Avis, National, and alot of others.
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Okay, I just tried to rev the engine with my foot on the brake. I had the car in gear, clutch depressed, and pressed the brake with the ball of my foot and the throttle with my heel. Note, I can't do that when the car is moving. I could co it now because I didn't have to sit a the driving postion. Anyway, the rev limiter kicks in at exactly 4000 rpm.
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Originally posted by Lynn
Okay, I just tried to rev the engine with my foot on the brake. I had the car in gear, clutch depressed, and pressed the brake with the ball of my foot and the throttle with my heel. Note, I can't do that when the car is moving. I could co it now because I didn't have to sit a the driving postion. Anyway, the rev limiter kicks in at exactly 4000 rpm.
Okay, I just tried to rev the engine with my foot on the brake. I had the car in gear, clutch depressed, and pressed the brake with the ball of my foot and the throttle with my heel. Note, I can't do that when the car is moving. I could co it now because I didn't have to sit a the driving postion. Anyway, the rev limiter kicks in at exactly 4000 rpm.
I also know that the throttle cutting out does not always happen. There are times when it does and times when it doesn't. I haven't figured out how you have to do it to avoid it all the time. Try driving the car slowly and then start holding the brake and see if it cuts the throttle.
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Originally posted by BlackC230Coupe
My friends has a 2002 Stage 2 Roush Mustang and when ever he races he never uses the clutch, he says its fine for the car if your know what your doing. I know he is very very stupid so i would not belive a word he is saying.
My friends has a 2002 Stage 2 Roush Mustang and when ever he races he never uses the clutch, he says its fine for the car if your know what your doing.
I know he is very very stupid so i would not belive a word he is saying.The MBs transmission is very tight, at least while new, so I'm hesitant to try it until the tranny loosens up.
Originally posted by lynn
Okay, I just tried to rev the engine with my foot on the brake. I had the car in gear, clutch depressed, and pressed the brake with the ball of my foot and the throttle with my heel. Note, I can't do that when the car is moving. I could co it now because I didn't have to sit a the driving postion. Anyway, the rev limiter kicks in at exactly 4000 rpm.
Okay, I just tried to rev the engine with my foot on the brake. I had the car in gear, clutch depressed, and pressed the brake with the ball of my foot and the throttle with my heel. Note, I can't do that when the car is moving. I could co it now because I didn't have to sit a the driving postion. Anyway, the rev limiter kicks in at exactly 4000 rpm.
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Originally posted by hrh
Actually, depending on the car, your friend is right. In my Jetta (and every VW I ever owned), after the car was broken in, I rarely if ever used the clutch for anything above the 1-2 shift.
Actually, depending on the car, your friend is right. In my Jetta (and every VW I ever owned), after the car was broken in, I rarely if ever used the clutch for anything above the 1-2 shift.
.Cheers, BT
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I've tried shifting without the clutch and it's a no-go. I can get it into neutral very easily by unloading the dogs (I do this on almost every upshift). It just won't go into the next gear, even if I rev the engine with the clutch out.
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definately the cluth is the key to a manual and like everyone else has pretty much said i dont think a touchshift will help very much. you need to get in a manual trans car and practice. for me when i was learning when i was 15 it was making the car go from a complete stop that was hard. but you get used to it and its all second nature in the end. you get in, and go, and shift without even thinking about it.
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as far as heal-toeing in the coupe is concerned, it can be done. I do it left ball of my foot on the brake and then just pivot your heal to blip the gas. It took me a lot of practice to get it down. In general, heal-toeing is pretty difficult to learn. You have to understand the reasoning behind it to take full advantage of the technique. As far as blipping goes, my car has no problem with it when the clutch is pressed in. It only cuts the gas if you don't have the clutch in.
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Re: In an effort to teach thy self...
Originally posted by 02Impressor
.. I plan on learning to drive stick. When my lease expires for the c230, I hope to buy a car with manual drive. I figure the best way to learn, is to teach myself, and what better way to start then with Tiptronic (+/-) on the c230. I know it's two very different things but the concept is the same. Shift up when it reaches X rpm and shift down when it falls to X rpm. Is there anything significant I should know when learning to drive with the shifter? I am doing this on a wide field so I will have plenty of room to speed up.
So far driving on the street , I have problems shifting down. I usually shift down to early and it makes it very akward.
.. I plan on learning to drive stick. When my lease expires for the c230, I hope to buy a car with manual drive. I figure the best way to learn, is to teach myself, and what better way to start then with Tiptronic (+/-) on the c230. I know it's two very different things but the concept is the same. Shift up when it reaches X rpm and shift down when it falls to X rpm. Is there anything significant I should know when learning to drive with the shifter? I am doing this on a wide field so I will have plenty of room to speed up.
So far driving on the street , I have problems shifting down. I usually shift down to early and it makes it very akward.
You could probably rent one at AVIS, National, etc, and if not, take a trip to Mexico, they always have manuals available
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Originally posted by BlackC230Coupe
no one answered my question yet, Where can you rent a car with a manual tranny? besides renting a ferrari at an exotic car rental.
no one answered my question yet, Where can you rent a car with a manual tranny? besides renting a ferrari at an exotic car rental.
