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Old 07-06-2011, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Glyn M Ruck
You need to check your pump integrity & filter & all balance lines for blockage or leak. Also check breather lines to the EECS system (evapourative emissions control system). Older cars with the external filter maintain a single pressure line to the front at 3.8 bar while the pressure regulator in the filter dumps excess fuel back to tank. Update your profile to include model year of your car.

I no longer post pump side as Benz is all over the place with this.
Thanks for your reply glyn, my car model is w203 C200kompressor of 2001, the fuel pump are in right side. I already change the fuel filter and problem persist... I dont know whats happend...
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What was the outcome of this.I wish ppl with complete the thread that they have started.I mean its the least that you could do.
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I have this problem. I recently replaced the pump, sending unit, and fuel filter. From what I can tell, the sending unit is a motive flow pump. Basically it uses the returning fuel pressure to suck more fuel out of the sending-unit-side fuel tank and sends it to the fuel-pump-side fuel tank. I'm going to put a fuel pressure gauge on the return side tomorrow but I was wondering if anyone with the shop manual could tell me if they list a return-side fuel pressure spec in the book?
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Yes, all these years later, and I find this thread. Did he ever solve the issue?
Tomorrow, I tackle the pump replacement.

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I have this problem. I recently replaced the pump, sending unit, and fuel filter. From what I can tell, the sending unit is a motive flow pump. Basically it uses the returning fuel pressure to suck more fuel out of the sending-unit-side fuel tank and sends it to the fuel-pump-side fuel tank. I'm going to put a fuel pressure gauge on the return side tomorrow but I was wondering if anyone with the shop manual could tell me if they list a return-side fuel pressure spec in the book?
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Yes, all these years later, and I find this thread. Did he ever solve the issue?
Tomorrow, I tackle the pump replacement.
i havent had the problem of fuel not returning to the pump/tank but to me it would seem more like a fuel pressure regulator problem which is built into the fuel filter.
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There is no spec for fuel pressure on the return. Because it's pressureless.
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Hi,

I have same problem with my vehicle, can you please repost the thread ?

Any help really appreciate.
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Do these engines have a filter in the return pipe from the injection system ? For fuel returning to the tank.? Like the old m103 engines If its blocked fuel wont return to the tank. Just an idea
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No. and I have never seem a return filter on a M103 either. An easy way to check if your return is blocked is to check fuel pressure at the rail if ìt is higher than the spec it means your return is restricted.
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Russel well i must be one of the few that has a fuel return filter M103 just changed it .
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You said Return pipe! Your pic looks like Its the supply pipe?
Yes I know of that filter.
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Anyone ever solve the Gas going only to one side issue?

I see a very enthusiastic reply to a post from Splinter from long ago, but the post appears to be empty. I have replaced both the pump module and filter module with the new upgraded design from Mercedes. I think my problem lies in the routing of the fuel lines between the tank sides. It looks like there are 2 extra lines (1 fat, 1 skinny) that i'm unsure where they go. I think the fat one clips to the top of the fuel pump module side, but the skinny one I have no idea. Looks like it is the one with the one-way valve in it? Any help or a routing diagram for the lines would be greatly appreciated. Or perhaps whatever miracle cure Splinter came up with if someone can locate the post. Thanks in advance.
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both of them run to the same place. there is one that clips on and the other two supply fuel to the center of the pump module
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Both fat and skinny as you put it clip on to fuel module so the fuel can flood the module
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Originally Posted by Glyn M Ruck
Please call me Glyn - I'm sure it's the darn pump. They usually seize. I'm sure you will lick this one. The job I did on a friend's high miler was totally successful & still fine 3 years later. Just replaced both unit's - passenger & driver's side at the suggestion of my friendly service manager who maintains when one side goes, the sender on the other side is usually not far behind. I did not replace anything else. All hoses etc were fine. If you just want to replace the pump side that's fine. If the other side packs up at least access is relatively easy & you know how. Sorry for misleading you up front - it was a genuine & unfortunate mistake - good luck
On the driver side as well for balancing. Could that be the case with ours? He had it started for a few minutes and then it just died out that’s about the best we’ve gotten I would really like your help. My husband just replace the fuel pump and for some reason we are having trouble getting the gas to get through to the carburetor. I’m inside looking for help on my phone and he’s out there still trying. I read that there’s other things that need done On the driver side as well for balancing. Could that be the case with ours? He had it started for a few minutes and then it just died out that’s about the best we’ve gotten
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On the driver side as well for balancing. Could that be the case with ours? He had it started for a few minutes and then it just died out that’s about the best we’ve gotten I would really like your help. My husband just replace the fuel pump and for some reason we are having trouble getting the gas to get through to the carburetor. I’m inside looking for help on my phone and he’s out there still trying. I read that there’s other things that need done On the driver side as well for balancing. Could that be the case with ours? He had it started for a few minutes and then it just died out that’s about the best we’ve gotten
Are you drunk?
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Just replaced the fuel filter recently and new fuel pump, on passenger side. Works great for about 2 weeks then dies. Look into the fuel tank with the pump on passenger side, and tank empty of gas. Gauge shows I have a quarter tank. But I did a custom hose job after breaking one while replacing the fuel filter, so I bet that is where the problem is now. From computer troubleshooting ... user error lol. Anyway I was real proud of my custom rig on the fuel line till now. I used a 5/16" to 1/4" hose reducer to replace the broken right angle adapter I broke. Checking today it was still in place but from the previous posts i bet the pressure is off...if it is pressure regulated. The only code I got was DTR an p410 secondary air injection which is not the cause of this fuel system issue.

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