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Broken Rocker Arm....bent intake valve...timing skipping

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Old 02-12-2009, 07:14 PM
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Broken Rocker Arm....bent intake valve...timing skipping

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I dunno if anyone remembers the last time i posted about my car (2003 C230 Benz coupe with 58k) that i brought it and someone told me i need a new engine. I had them take about the motor (for $85/hr!) for 2 hours and they told me i have a broken rocker arm , my timing skipped, and i have a bent intake valve. Then he called for permission to work on it for 5 more hours to take apart the cylinder head to see the rest of it....He says it's gonna cost 2 grand just for what he's seen so far....does that sound right? Does it take 5 hours to take off the cylinder head? how much more is this thing gonna cost me before i get rid of itttt!!!
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You're paying MB prices there my friend.

I'd say about 2 hours to get the head off and at least 2-4 more to disassemble and thoroughly go over it. I'd say 2K just to look at something is ridiculous, but 2K for a rebuilt head is a good price.

If you were in NJ I'd say bring it here.
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I think the $2K is to repair the rocker and valve. Once the head comes off there may be more damage is what the mechanic means? He should have used a boroscope already and looked at the valve/rocker piston and cylinder. 5 hours is excessive time to pop a head. What's with all the early c230 motors "jumping the timing chain"? Is that really happening or are the valves just binding in the guides? I've read they have guide wear problems.
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I don't mean to be an ***, but are you completely insane? NEVER allow the stealer to work on a vehicle out of warranty! First of all, they do not employ "mechanics" they are "part swappers". They have no idea what they're doing beyond swapping parts to fix a problem. On top of that, their prices are unbelievable, and amount to nothing more than a scam.

Take the car to a good independent mechanic with experience working on Mercedes. You will pay half the price, and get far better work.
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Originally Posted by mleskovar
He should have used a boroscope already and looked at the valve/rocker piston and cylinder. 5 hours is excessive time to pop a head. What's with all the early c230 motors "jumping the timing chain"? Is that really happening or are the valves just binding in the guides? I've read they have guide wear problems.
+1 - I would like to know if there is excessive carbon (burnt VI Improver) build up on the valve tulip from using crap fuels. This timing chain issue is either a worry or a misdiagnosis. Chains don't just jump & if there is a tensioner issue it should make a noise long before chains jump. The only sensitivity these engines are supposed to have WRT timing chains, is being turned backwards. Could a bad start lead to the engine kicking backwards? Who knows.
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No, I took it to this place in Albany,NY called Autobahn Centre. can I get anything for the car while it's broken?
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No, I took it to this place in Albany,NY called Autobahn Centre. can I get anything for the car while it's broken?
You can, yet you'll get peanuts, anyone willing to buy it will do so for a steep discount as a parts car, or as a salvage car with hopes of fixing it cheap themselves.

You're better off fixing the problem then selling, and no, you won't recoup any loss. Write it off as a lesson learned: MB quality is amoung the lowest in Consumer Reports for a good reason.
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You can, yet you'll get peanuts, anyone willing to buy it will do so for a steep discount as a parts car, or as a salvage car with hopes of fixing it cheap themselves.

You're better off fixing the problem then selling, and no, you won't recoup any loss. Write it off as a lesson learned: MB quality is amoung the lowest in Consumer Reports for a good reason.
+1 - thank heavens the W204 has made it to the top of the latest JD Powers survey here - even above Honda - Toyota have slumped to 6th

Fix it & keep it, or detail it & sell it once repaired.

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