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Old Feb 6, 2003 | 05:21 PM
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Question If i have the GPS/NAV system... can the police track my car by GPS?

im asking this because i want to lower my insurance... i have heard my sales person told me that the GPS system can track my car down anywhere if the car is being driven. i want to find info on that. where should i look for it? or is it bogus??

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Old Feb 6, 2003 | 05:26 PM
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Re: If i have the GPS/NAV system... can the police track my car by GPS?

Originally posted by SiLvaC32
im asking this because i want to lower my insurance... i have heard my sales person told me that the GPS system can track my car down anywhere if the car is being driven. i want to find info on that. where should i look for it? or is it bogus??

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Yes, I believe they can track you. I have heard stories of catching car thiefs within about 15 minutes just by tracking the car. I think it has more to do with Teleaid than it does NAV, but I could be wrong.
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Old Feb 6, 2003 | 05:57 PM
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TeleAid knows exactly where you are.

Try it, you probably have it.

"Hello Mr SiLvaC32, I see you are travelling down Hollister Ave. at 48 MPH, towards Goleta. How can I help you."

Actually she won't quote your speed, but I bet she could. BTW she can run a pretty complete scan on your car, I wonder when they will be able to "turn it off". That would really make insurance companies happy.
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Old Feb 6, 2003 | 06:22 PM
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Originally posted by rrf
TeleAid knows exactly where you are.

Try it, you probably have it.

"Hello Mr SiLvaC32, I see you are travelling down Hollister Ave. at 48 MPH, towards Goleta. How can I help you."

Actually she won't quote your speed, but I bet she could. BTW she can run a pretty complete scan on your car, I wonder when they will be able to "turn it off". That would really make insurance companies happy.
In fact, there is a tracking system (I forgot which company) that the control center can actually turn off your car and lock all the doors. It is pretty scary if you're a car thief!
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Old Feb 6, 2003 | 07:02 PM
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The police cannot track your car with Teleaid. The Teleaid operator can tell the police where the car is provided that the operator has been informed that the car is stolen, the car is running, the car is outside and receiving signals from three satellites, and the thieves haven't disabled Teleaid in some way.
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Old Feb 6, 2003 | 07:47 PM
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If you have a cell phone, the police can track you provided your phone is ON and you have coverage. I believe that's how they located OJ Simpson...

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Old Feb 6, 2003 | 08:48 PM
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I'm pretty sure that the Comand system is a gps "receiver only" system. I don't think anyone but uncle sam can transmit to a gps satellite. Teleaide and cell phone networks are ground based and probaly use triangulation algorithms for location.
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Old Feb 6, 2003 | 08:56 PM
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Originally posted by Wheens
I'm pretty sure that the Comand system is a gps "receiver only" system. I don't think anyone but uncle sam can transmit to a gps satellite. Teleaide and cell phone networks are ground based and probaly use triangulation algorithms for location.
Teleaid has a GPS receiver as part of the system. When you call the Teleaid service center, the system will tell the operator where the car is located.

Anyone can send a signal to the GPS satellites, but unless you are the US Air Force Space Command's Space Operations Center, the satellites can't recognize the signal. All communications to the constellation are encoded and encrypted.
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Old Feb 6, 2003 | 09:23 PM
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Old Feb 7, 2003 | 01:00 PM
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Originally posted by Lynn
Teleaid has a GPS receiver as part of the system. When you call the Teleaid service center, the system will tell the operator where the car is located.

Anyone can send a signal to the GPS satellites, but unless you are the US Air Force Space Command's Space Operations Center, the satellites can't recognize the signal. All communications to the constellation are encoded and encrypted.
Correct, but not by way of a simple GPS "Receiver" - they don't call it that for no reason. It receives but doesn't transmit.
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Old Feb 7, 2003 | 02:49 PM
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Correct, but not by way of a simple GPS "Receiver" - they don't call it that for no reason. It receives but doesn't transmit.
I know that. I never said the GPS receiver transmits a damn thing. I said Teleaid reports the position of the the car to the Teleaid service center.
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Old Feb 9, 2003 | 12:52 AM
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I am a police officer and the tracking system you are speaking about is LOJACK. as for teleaid or gps, yes there are things out there that COULD track them, however the police do not currently have this technology for TRACKING purposes. it does exist, we just dont have it, YET. It becomes an issue of privacy. this is the same reason why the computers that warn local and goverment agencies when you car trips an MIL light have not made it to production yet. and a few other reasons
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Old Feb 9, 2003 | 02:36 AM
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Originally posted by nov0798
I am a police officer and the tracking system you are speaking about is LOJACK. as for teleaid or gps, yes there are things out there that COULD track them, however the police do not currently have this technology for TRACKING purposes. it does exist, we just dont have it, YET. It becomes an issue of privacy. this is the same reason why the computers that warn local and goverment agencies when you car trips an MIL light have not made it to production yet. and a few other reasons
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Old Feb 9, 2003 | 02:55 AM
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thanks for clearin it up for me guys~

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Old Feb 9, 2003 | 03:43 AM
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Lynn is completely right...the teleaid service knows your position because the GPS information (that the car received through the receiving only GPS antenna) has been forwarded to them...

With GSM phones that are switched on, one can be tracked up to pretty close as well...by data and distance related phone-transmitted signals to several cellsites. It is not as precise though.

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