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Old Mar 20, 2003 | 03:53 PM
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first problem on my coupe!

My fuel gauge died today! I filled up last night and today going up a long uphill road it just dropped to zero. The fuel display came up and it shows no gas on the dash display. I tried reseating the gas cap and it was already tight. I know this has been a issue but could not find the TSB number or part number in a search. Any help out there?
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Old Mar 20, 2003 | 03:57 PM
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Just call your dealer. At this point, the techs there could probably change fuel sensors in their sleep.

And keep their # on speed dial!
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Old Mar 20, 2003 | 04:24 PM
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Originally posted by tommy
Just call your dealer. At this point, the techs there could probably change fuel sensors in their sleep.
When speaking with a MB tech at a party - I mentioned that I thought my car needed new fuel senders to correct a fluctuating gas gauge. He said, "You have no idea of how many of those things I have to replace every week."



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Old Mar 20, 2003 | 04:35 PM
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mine has been working fine
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Old Mar 20, 2003 | 04:59 PM
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Originally posted by KWiK
mine has been working fine
Mine WAS fine until today!
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Old Mar 20, 2003 | 05:11 PM
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Mine did it once after filling up and I thought I didn't fill it up right so I stopped at another station and put 50 cents worth in. Then a minute later the gauge went back to normal and it's been fine every since. Don't you hate stuff like that, it never fails when you bring it in.
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Old Mar 20, 2003 | 05:29 PM
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Mine has been replaced 4 times and it still does not work.

Just go to the dealer, they can fix it.

Sorry you're having problems.
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Old Mar 20, 2003 | 05:38 PM
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Originally posted by galaxygrrl
Mine has been replaced 4 times and it still does not work.

Just go to the dealer, they can fix it.

Sorry you're having problems.
Me too! I was hoping I would hold the opposite record from Buellwinkle on dealer visits!
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Old Mar 20, 2003 | 07:13 PM
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They just did mine today. Actually twice. He said the first one they put in was defective also. Now my car smells like gas. I've got all the doors open airing it out. They also checked the oil consumption and it was .45 qts in 1000 miles. He said MB won't authorize any repairs until it get to 1qt/1000 miles. Unbelievable.
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Old Mar 20, 2003 | 07:13 PM
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Recurring problems with fuel gauge senders in Canada have been linked to formulation issues at gasoline refineries. Here is a link to a recent advisory from Shell Canada. The same type of failure last year was attributed to an additive.

Problems might also be related to gas with 10% or more ethanol. The ethanol penetrates fuel system plastics, which can lead to component failure. Here is a link to a Toyota presentation. Ethanol has apparently been a reliability issue for the fuel sender units in Saabs. I wonder if something like this might be going on?
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Old Mar 20, 2003 | 09:01 PM
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Originally posted by lars
Recurring problems with fuel gauge senders in Canada have been linked to formulation issues at gasoline refineries. Here is a link to a recent advisory from Shell Canada. The same type of failure last year was attributed to an additive.

Problems might also be related to gas with 10% or more ethanol. The ethanol penetrates fuel system plastics, which can lead to component failure. Here is a link to a Toyota presentation. Ethanol has apparently been a reliability issue for the fuel sender units in Saabs. I wonder if something like this might be going on?
MTBE has also been known to screw up fuel systems.
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Old Mar 20, 2003 | 10:28 PM
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MTBE has also been known to screw up fuel systems.
I've heard that too, but MTBE has been used widely in Europe, and in higher concentrations than in North America, so one would expect MB's fuel system to be able to cope with it. I think the current phase-out date for MTBE in California gasoline is Jan 2004. Unhappily as far as I'm concerned, the plan is to add ethanol instead of MTBE, because California did not get an exemption from EPA's fuel oxygenate requirement. Ethanol comes with its own set of problems, one of which I mentioned above.

For those not quite following this exchange, MTBE and ethanol are added to gasoline to promote more complete combustion, so reducing emissions of unburned hydrocarbons, particulates, and other air pollutants that are precursors of smog.
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Old Mar 21, 2003 | 08:52 AM
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Originally posted by lars
I've heard that too, but MTBE has been used widely in Europe, and in higher concentrations than in North America, so one would expect MB's fuel system to be able to cope with it. I think the current phase-out date for MTBE in California gasoline is Jan 2004. Unhappily as far as I'm concerned, the plan is to add ethanol instead of MTBE, because California did not get an exemption from EPA's fuel oxygenate requirement. Ethanol comes with its own set of problems, one of which I mentioned above.

For those not quite following this exchange, MTBE and ethanol are added to gasoline to promote more complete combustion, so reducing emissions of unburned hydrocarbons, particulates, and other air pollutants that are precursors of smog.
Many gas companies in California have switched over this year which is why they claim our gas prices are so high. I paid $2.45/gal today for 91 octane 76 gas.
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