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Old 04-02-2003, 01:42 AM
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kleemann boost-kit

http://www.kleemann.dk/boost-kit/index.htm

Anyone know how much they charge for parts and labor? Im in Oakland...

I notice only a 30 HP gain... which aint that much...
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Check out Conversion Techniques Inc., in Oakland, (9845 Bigge Street/510.639.0911). $799 for the part & $200 - $300 for labor. They do have to order the kits which takes a few days & they are offical Kleemann dealer. Hope the info. helps!
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Hi, I am just wondering if I could do it with my 2000 ML320,thanks.
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Hi, I am just wondering if I could do it with my 2000 ML320,thanks.
your SUV?

why would you want to add it to yoru SUV?? you planing to race other cars or something? heh
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u can get underdrive pulyl kit for ur ML if they make them. but they no make boost kit for them.
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Re: kleemann boost-kit

Originally posted by seandan
http://www.kleemann.dk/boost-kit/index.htm

Anyone know how much they charge for parts and labor? Im in Oakland...

I notice only a 30 HP gain... which aint that much...
30hp ain't much? Are you smoking crack. you'll notice a huge difference in the car with a pulley. The coupe isn't a drag car. tell the guy you wanna go from 0-125 and see who wins then.
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Re: Re: kleemann boost-kit

Originally posted by TimmyC230boy
30hp ain't much? Are you smoking crack. you'll notice a huge difference in the car with a pulley. The coupe isn't a drag car. tell the guy you wanna go from 0-125 and see who wins then.
smoking crack would be an understatement.....30hp from just a boost kit is a lot!

does that kit really claim 30 additional HP?

....do you how much you would have to spend in stupid bolt-ons just to get half that on a dyno IF you had no frced induction.....hmmmm....too much.....probably enough to be able to afford a C32

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Re: Re: Re: kleemann boost-kit

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smoking crack would be an understatement.....30hp from just a boost kit is a lot!

does that kit really claim 30 additional HP?

Yup, There are dyno sheets and many that have pulley's on their cars that have the 30hp gains. Amrk Cummins beat a 330Ci with a his pullied coupe. Ask around, the performance figures are real. But nothing for a 2003 yet.
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Re: kleemann boost-kit

Originally posted by seandan
http://www.kleemann.dk/boost-kit/index.htm

Anyone know how much they charge for parts and labor? Im in Oakland...

I notice only a 30 HP gain... which aint that much...
Actually it's more like 38 HP, and 30 lbs/ft of torque. Not much? Try getting that kind of gain with a chip- it just won't happen. The Over-Boost kits provide the most bang for the buck period. The All-Alloy kit is priced at $899.00, and installation varies depending on where you have it installed.

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Actually from all the dyno's I've seen, except Kleemann's high altitude testing, I have never seen 38 HP gain and if anyone who's purchased any pulley kit can show us all a dyno that shows anywhere near this sort of gain please publish it.

Realistically, if you can get 30 HP from any pulley kit (and no other mods) you are doing really great. I've seen gains as little as about 19 HP to as much as 28 HP and that's crank, not wheel HP. Now a 38 ft-lbs torque gain, yes, that's very doable. What it translates to in the real world is a 1 second improvement in 1/4 mile runs and that's impressive for a $250 mod to your car.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: kleemann boost-kit

Originally posted by TimmyC230boy
But nothing for a 2003 yet.
I know...that's actually very unfortunate

I can't wait though.....like a virgin on prom night

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Originally posted by Buellwinkle
Actually from all the dyno's I've seen, except Kleemann's high altitude testing, I have never seen 38 HP gain and if anyone who's purchased any pulley kit can show us all a dyno that shows anywhere near this sort of gain please publish it.

Realistically, if you can get 30 HP from any pulley kit (and no other mods) you are doing really great. I've seen gains as little as about 19 HP to as much as 28 HP and that's crank, not wheel HP. Now a 38 ft-lbs torque gain, yes, that's very doable. What it translates to in the real world is a 1 second improvement in 1/4 mile runs and that's impressive for a $250 mod to your car.
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Let me dig around in our stack of Dyno's. I know I've got one from a C-Coupe showing 199.9 wheel HP after the KLEEMANN over-boost kit. I just have to find it, so I'll post it when I do.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by CoryU
[B]Actually it's more like 38 HP, and 30 lbs/ft of torque. Not much? Try getting that kind of gain with a chip- it just won't happen. The Over-Boost kits provide the most bang for the buck period. The All-Alloy kit is priced at $899.00, and installation varies depending on where you have it installed.

Does that kit include EVERYTHING I need, or are there other mods I'll have to do to make it work right? (once it's available)

And does that automatically void your warranty?

I heard Kleeman is the way to go, is that true?
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Re: Re: Re: kleemann boost-kit

Originally posted by DIRKDIGLER
Does that kit include EVERYTHING I need, or are there other mods I'll have to do to make it work right? (once it's available)

And does that automatically void your warranty?

I heard Kleeman is the way to go, is that true?

The best way to go for you is back to the dealer for a C320 coupe. No pulley kits for the '03 C230 yet from any brand and may never be despite what some people have you believing.
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Got a quote at the kleemann for the boost kit

gonna cost 899.00 for the kit and around 100 - 200 to install...
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Originally posted by seandan
Got a quote at the kleemann for the boost kit

gonna cost 899.00 for the kit and around 100 - 200 to install...
topline or conversion techniques?
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Originally posted by gab
topline or conversion techniques?
Topline (kineda just had them to his Kleeman Pulley), from what I've read on this forum Conversion seem kind of shady.

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TOPLINE... going to call the other one right now...
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So i should prob do mines at topline instead of conversion?
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Why this uncertainty in installation price? Do they have to see how much money is in your wallet before they commit to a price?
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Originally posted by Buellwinkle
Why this uncertainty in installation price? Do they have to see how much money is in your wallet before they commit to a price?
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I quoted him those numbers, because every shop labor rate in the country is different. For instance: Our labor rate in Colorado is $75/Hr, where the labor rate in NY is $125/Hr. We do not dictate installation price, since every state is different.
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Topline (kineda just had them to his Kleeman Pulley), from what I've read on this forum Conversion seem kind of shady.

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Funny thing is, Kineda did not disclose the installation cost on his car.
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Originally posted by CoryU
Buell-

I quoted him those numbers, because every shop labor rate in the country is different. For instance: Our labor rate in Colorado is $75/Hr, where the labor rate in NY is $125/Hr. We do not dictate installation price, since every state is different.
I understand every shop has different rate, but I am wondering why it takes evosport 1-1.5 quoted shop hour but take conversion techniques 3 quoted shop hour? so are evosport mechancis more well trained by Kleemann or Conversion Techniques mechanics technically not up to standard?

Do Kleemann has recommended labor hours for the dealers? All car manufacturers publish recommended labor hours for various fixes, say changing timing belt is 2 hour, install plugs is 1/2 hour etc.

Labor hour is an hour of labor, no matter you install the pulley kit or you install supercharger or you install wheels

I suspect that since Kleemann price their pulley kit low compared to the supercharger kit there is not much "meat" to eat from dealers thus they have to inflate the labor hour charge
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Originally posted by 20FHK02
Funny thing is, Kineda did not disclose the installation cost on his car.
He first said it only took 40 mins to do the install on the 6sp then he edited the post to 1-2 hour.

I suspected Topline probably gave him a break on labor to promote Topline
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Originally posted by gab
I suspected Topline probably gave him a break on labor to promote Topline
I concur with this assesment.

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