FrankW

the black series has a hybrid KW V3. heavier rebound damper and slightly different material to suit real world driving that needed to last longer.

the front knuckle on the black series seems different than the normal CLK's, so dunno if the front sway bar would be different length. But if it's the normal CLK63 I have a feeling they might be the 23mm you found on the later CLK55.

hkirov

You are correct for the struts.

The front knuckle on the Black is different from the reg CLK63, but they share all the same Sway Bar and non of the parts shown on the sway bar is similar to the CLK55 or C55 so it makes me be more than certain its bigger than 24mm.

The sway bar links are all the same, but the sport ones as they are bigger and build tufter, they are the 12mm bolt ones not the 10mm bolt ones as the reg suspension.

hkirov

Here are the front brake #, those are just the CLK63 ones not the black as they wont fit directly, the black has different knuckle so the front brakes for it wont be direct fit.


--A0034206783 - Front Left Caliper
--A0034206883 - Front Right Caliper
--A0054203920 - Brake Pads
--A2094210112 - Brake Disk you need 2

Those are the 6 piston Brembo AMGs, they can fit the 355mm rotor or the 380mm rotor, two piece rotors 380mm are going for 400$ each for the drilled ones. And the Calipers are around 700$ each, check on parts.com

chkoo

wouldnt u get uneven wear on the pad if u were to use a smaller rotor? ^^

hkirov

well how small do you want to go, the 6 piston ones can fit 345mm to 380mm, and it doesn't matter the wear cause the rotor will stay only on that set up you wont be reusing it on another car after will you.

take a look at your brakes and you will see that the pad never goes all the way up or down.

and also if you get it worn enough you just replace the rotor.

FrankW

he's talking about the wearing of the pads. i.e. you can only use the 6-piston pads on that caliper which is made for the 380mm rotor. IF you run the 355mm rotor you will only have half the pads making contact with the smaller rotor which is a big NO-NO. The position of the pads is not going to change when you put a smaller diameter rotor on there.

in other words, you can't run smaller rotors because of the fixed position of the caliper bracket.

keep in mind that the C32/55 caliper is NOT the same as the C320/350 4-piston which uses a slightly smaller diameter rotor. If you use the 32/55 front caliper on the 320/350 sport rotor, they will not allow the pads to make proper contact with the rotor.

hkirov

Correct Frank, but the 6 piston Brembo calipers used into the CLK63 are made to work with rotors size from 355mm/32mm to 380mm/32mm the pads are positioned in a way they always stay on the rotor no mater the size in that range, and pads will wear depending on your driving M8 , so be good with the brake .


here is one place for brake parts and so on : http://store.zeckhausen.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=82

FrankW

unless you get and they make a corresponding pads (which they don't make them that way) for using smaller rotor on the same bracket length for the 380mm the 355mm rotor cannot be used. saying they can is simply incorrect.

BBK such as Brembo GT and the 4/6-piston they made for the AMG all use a fixed mount for the brake pads. two pin slides in and holds the brake pads in place. pads does not move.

the 6-piston may be used for 355 or 380, however on different application the back bracket will always be different even for the same caliper. NO brake company will use the same caliper, same fixed mount for two different size rotors that varies up to 1 inch in diameter.

once again, if you purchase a CLK63/SLK55 030 performance package 380mm front 6-piston setup, you cannot replace the 380mm with a smaller 355mm. The pads will not grab the the full surface of the smaller diameter rotor and you will warp the rotor badly.

and yes, I know of that website. I bought my Brembo GT 355mm pads from them.

hkirov

you are correct, but there is only one kind of brake pads they have and it is for the 355mm rotor so getting the 380mm doesn't do any changes it just goes up and pad stays all the way on it, when selling the 380mm rotor they will give you the same pad as the 355mm one just the rotor is bigger.

infarct there are people on the AMG forum running bigger rotors on their Caliper set up.

But putting smaller than 355mm will do the do the uneven wear as you mentioned.

FrankW

hmm, that would be interesting because the 030 performance package on the AMGs all came with 380mm. I've never seen one with 355mm on the 6-piston. The 63s are using 360x36 standard with 6-piston.

xpl0sive

are the 6 piston calipers the same on the 63 cars as the 55 cars? i'm just curious as to why they started using 36mm rotors instead of 32mm. also, can the 36mm rotors work on the cars equipped with 6 pistons, 32mm rotors. btw the regular SLK55 brakes before 08 are 340mm and 030 brakes are 360mm. The calipers get spaced out more when larger rotors are used, same size pads

hyper_tune77

Hope you guys could assist on this matter. I was wondering for quite some time on this. Would this rotors fit front CLK63 AMG 6 piston calipers? the size is 360mm x 36mm.

One more question if you guys don't mind, could we fit this rotors to W203 (with 6 piston calipers ofcourse)?

Your view and feedback on this issue is highly appreciated. Thanks.

Zack

C230 Sport Coup

So is there a 23mm sway bar that fit the C W203 without modification?
If so anyone have the pn?

MW_ATL

The CLK Black Series rear bar WILL NOT swap on a C203 (or even on a non-BS CLK). It has been discussed repeatedly on the CLK threads. There was a lot of excitement from CLK63 people when they came out because they would have allowed true dual exhaust for them. Although I have not held one in my hand to look at the difference, I spent a month digging information on the differences in January before I changed mine.

The bar has the dual humps for true dual exhaust (no problem there) but the ends have a different curvature on them. There are pictures of the ends of a non-BS CLK and a BS/CLK posted side by side somewhere in a CLK thread, so you can see the differences. The guy that posted the pictures had the BS bars re-bent and then heat-treated again to use them. If I have time to search for this thread again, I will try to update a link to it. The guy did a very good job of documenting and photographing the difference in the rear bars, after he purchased one and had it sitting on his shop floor next to his stock rear bar.

If these would have worked, I would have put them on my Coupe back in February.