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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 08:24 PM
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or to make it a little faster get a C32 blower on it but you will need to change the pulley so you can lower the boost. There are possibilities but it all comes down to $$$
I have a piece of **** C230 super charging lying at home. Will that fit? There are no C32s or C55s in my country yet.
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 08:25 PM
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I'm dead serious, I rather keep this than a SL or any AMG. I love this car alot and I don't seem to take things lightly when negativity pops towards the 240.
How the hell u gonna help?
How the hell I'm gonna help? First tell me how much you want to spend and I'll help you...don't worry about how I'm gonna help

How much do you wanna spend??
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 08:27 PM
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Here is a document on what's involved to supercharge a M112 engine.

That's the Kleemann kit. It boost 1/2 a Bar while the AMG boost 1 bar.

Bar=14.7

I don't think you'll get away with a Bar on the C240.

http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/p...pressor_V3.pdf
I might get this if my car fails to perform in the 6s. Soo many options and soo less time.
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 08:30 PM
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How the hell I'm gonna help? First tell me how much you want to spend and I'll help you...don't worry about how I'm gonna help

How much do you wanna spend??
Right now I have a 5000 to 7000 USD chum change lying for starters. But I don't wanna spend the whole money just on a super charger. I already have a dead C230 super charger in the thrash can.
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 08:40 PM
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Can I fit the super charger from the C230 on to my C240??
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 08:43 PM
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Can I fit the super charger from the C230 on to my C240??
No
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 08:55 PM
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No
Kindly elaborate? Why not.
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 09:03 PM
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It's for a four cylinder. It just simply won't fit.

It's not like a turbocharger where you can bolt it up to a custom exhaust manifold and run piping. It needs to mate the intake ports, while still being able to mount the belt to run the thing.
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by fookoo303
It's for a four cylinder. It just simply won't fit.

It's not like a turbocharger where you can bolt it up to a custom exhaust manifold and run piping. It needs to mate the intake ports, while still being able to mount the belt to run the thing.
So the C32 super charger can fit in then. So pointless of an engine swap then
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 09:16 PM
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no not pointless. The internals of a c240 are far different than a c32.
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 09:21 PM
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C32 bigger engine supercharged. Your car is a smaller engine with higher compression. You can not run C32 supercharger on your engine without lowering boost. Lower boost = lower power.

C32 makes 350hp stock. Your car with a supercharger will probably make 250hp (hopefully).
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 09:21 PM
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no not pointless. The internals of a c240 are far different than a c32.
But the pulley can still be installed with some modifications done to the engine?? Save £££ there where engine swap would cost hefty.
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 09:25 PM
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C32 bigger engine supercharged. Your car is a smaller engine with higher compression. You can not run C32 supercharger on your engine without lowering boost. Lower boost = lower power.

C32 makes 350hp stock. Your car with a supercharger will probably make 250hp (hopefully).
I already have 190ish to 200 Hp. I can't only gain 50 Hp with the C32 SC? The Kleeman gives 200ish Hp gain. Correct me if I'm wrong cuz I'm ball parking.
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 10:45 PM
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Right now I have a 5000 to 7000 USD chum change lying for starters. But I don't wanna spend the whole money just on a super charger. I already have a dead C230 super charger in the thrash can.

Right, Karo - he will send it to you in a cashiers check, plus about 3K extra and you can wire the extra 3K back. Fail!
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by MW_ATL

Right, Karo - he will send it to you in a cashiers check, plus about 3K extra and you can wire the extra 3K back. Fail!
U ignorant grunt. Think before typing next time.
Everything is available in the UAE, no need to wire nothing. Just looking on expert info.
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 11:04 PM
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Dude you play too much video games. You sound like you want to make a HIGH PERFORMANCE C240 ROFL.. If you don't already know the UAE has some extremely fast cars, everything from EVOTECH RS6's to R8's, why would you do this to a C240 of all cars.

Again I ask how old are you?
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 11:25 PM
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Dude you want expert information but you're not listening to anyone. Everyone is telling you the same thing. The amount of money you would spend just to make it equivalent to a c32 would be ridiculous. If you could even achieve those numbers, you would most likely be left with an unreliable car.

You're talking about trying to atleast double the power without modifying internals. It's not a realistic goal.
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 11:30 PM
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I agree with fookoo303 its totally unrealistic..its like trying to make a hummer as economical as a prius. You bought an entry level luxury car not an entry level sports car
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 11:31 PM
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I have race scheduled on June 2011 against some evos, rx8s and 350s...
You’re screwed. It’s easy enough to modify the M112 though.
BMEP is your friend.

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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 11:34 PM
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john every picture you post is of spotless and ridiculously clean parts. You must be very meticulous
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Old Jan 29, 2011 | 12:12 AM
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You’re screwed.
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I hope you havent been talking smack to any EVO owners, or fast runners for that matter...

But seriously, if you really want to make this car fast, and not just an explosion waiting to happen, you'll need to start thinking in reality. That involves taking into account that you cant turn a 190 HP car into a 350 HP car with bolt on modifications.

If you really want to make a run at this project you're going to need to pull the engine, probably bore it out a bit more to increase displacement, get custom internals that can handle the boost, then go with a Kleemann or AMG blower (i wouldnt recommend the AMG route, it gets really expensive really fast. There's a guy on the AMG section that put an e55 blower on a c55 and it cost a LOT), probably need new camshafts, new headers, a c32 transmission wouldn't hurt, and THEN you have to get the software to make it all work together and honestly i have NO idea where you'd get that. And you'll still have weird issues with the car. Plus where are you going to get all this done? You could take the car TO Kleemann and they'd still have a tough time getting you there.

I know you really like the c240 and want to make it great and all that, but lets say you do all this and after tens of thousands of dollars and months of work, you get to a 350hp car. After all that effort, hows it going to feel when some kid in an Evo that spent $2k on some bolt on mods completely annihilates you without even noticing?
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Old Jan 29, 2011 | 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by OneOfaKindTrini
Dude you play too much video games. You sound like you want to make a HIGH PERFORMANCE C240 ROFL.. If you don't already know the UAE has some extremely fast cars, everything from EVOTECH RS6's to R8's, why would you do this to a C240 of all cars.


Again I ask how old are you?
I don't live in the UAE. I live in Pakistan.
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Old Jan 29, 2011 | 12:15 AM
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Dude you want expert information but you're not listening to anyone. Everyone is telling you the same thing. The amount of money you would spend just to make it equivalent to a c32 would be ridiculous. If you could even achieve those numbers, you would most likely be left with an unreliable car.

You're talking about trying to atleast double the power without modifying internals. It's not a realistic goal.
I'm willing to modify the internals. And I'm not the only one who has a 240 which is modded. Some ppl have Kleeman 240s or other highly modded 240s, but are quiet uncommon
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Old Jan 29, 2011 | 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by maximous57
I agree with fookoo303 its totally unrealistic..its like trying to make a hummer as economical as a prius. You bought an entry level luxury car not an entry level sports car
Hey I love this car and couldn't stand the stock version. Modded a bit, saw good results. Now wanting even more, and it's not impossible.....it's a challenge.
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Old Jan 29, 2011 | 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by splinter
You’re screwed. It’s easy enough to modify the M112 though.
BMEP is your friend.

Hahaha I kept up with the rx8 but I get toasted by the MR evos and 350s. Ill be happy if was able to keep up with the MR evo though. That thing is fast.
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