Powering the C240
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I hope you havent been talking smack to any EVO owners, or fast runners for that matter...
But seriously, if you really want to make this car fast, and not just an explosion waiting to happen, you'll need to start thinking in reality. That involves taking into account that you cant turn a 190 HP car into a 350 HP car with bolt on modifications.
If you really want to make a run at this project you're going to need to pull the engine, probably bore it out a bit more to increase displacement, get custom internals that can handle the boost, then go with a Kleemann or AMG blower (i wouldnt recommend the AMG route, it gets really expensive really fast. There's a guy on the AMG section that put an e55 blower on a c55 and it cost a LOT), probably need new camshafts, new headers, a c32 transmission wouldn't hurt, and THEN you have to get the software to make it all work together and honestly i have NO idea where you'd get that. And you'll still have weird issues with the car. Plus where are you going to get all this done? You could take the car TO Kleemann and they'd still have a tough time getting you there.
I know you really like the c240 and want to make it great and all that, but lets say you do all this and after tens of thousands of dollars and months of work, you get to a 350hp car. After all that effort, hows it going to feel when some kid in an Evo that spent $2k on some bolt on mods completely annihilates you without even noticing?
I hope you havent been talking smack to any EVO owners, or fast runners for that matter...
But seriously, if you really want to make this car fast, and not just an explosion waiting to happen, you'll need to start thinking in reality. That involves taking into account that you cant turn a 190 HP car into a 350 HP car with bolt on modifications.
If you really want to make a run at this project you're going to need to pull the engine, probably bore it out a bit more to increase displacement, get custom internals that can handle the boost, then go with a Kleemann or AMG blower (i wouldnt recommend the AMG route, it gets really expensive really fast. There's a guy on the AMG section that put an e55 blower on a c55 and it cost a LOT), probably need new camshafts, new headers, a c32 transmission wouldn't hurt, and THEN you have to get the software to make it all work together and honestly i have NO idea where you'd get that. And you'll still have weird issues with the car. Plus where are you going to get all this done? You could take the car TO Kleemann and they'd still have a tough time getting you there.
I know you really like the c240 and want to make it great and all that, but lets say you do all this and after tens of thousands of dollars and months of work, you get to a 350hp car. After all that effort, hows it going to feel when some kid in an Evo that spent $2k on some bolt on mods completely annihilates you without even noticing?
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Yes The dealer i bought my car at. Hes on this site he has a CLS 63 i believe fully modded with nos headers sounds like a race car his name is rick he won some awards on here as well with his silver cls
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U for real? Can u show some pics of 63?? And again, do nos require fill ups?? Cuz everytime I think of nos, I think of Fast and Furious.
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Heres a video of his car let me find some pictures http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPMupBX0b-g
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Heres a video of his car let me find some pictures http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPMupBX0b-g
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Dude you play too much video games. You sound like you want to make a HIGH PERFORMANCE C240 ROFL.. If you don't already know the UAE has some extremely fast cars, everything from EVOTECH RS6's to R8's, why would you do this to a C240 of all cars.
Again I ask how old are you?
Again I ask how old are you?
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I have so Much more to say but it's 2 Am and I'm half past dead. Anywho thanks Karo, glad to know they are a few members who respect others Point of view and decisions.
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I hope you havent been talking smack to any EVO owners, or fast runners for that matter...
But seriously, if you really want to make this car fast, and not just an explosion waiting to happen, you'll need to start thinking in reality. That involves taking into account that you cant turn a 190 HP car into a 350 HP car with bolt on modifications.
If you really want to make a run at this project you're going to need to pull the engine, probably bore it out a bit more to increase displacement, get custom internals that can handle the boost, then go with a Kleemann or AMG blower (i wouldnt recommend the AMG route, it gets really expensive really fast. There's a guy on the AMG section that put an e55 blower on a c55 and it cost a LOT), probably need new camshafts, new headers, a c32 transmission wouldn't hurt, and THEN you have to get the software to make it all work together and honestly i have NO idea where you'd get that. And you'll still have weird issues with the car. Plus where are you going to get all this done? You could take the car TO Kleemann and they'd still have a tough time getting you there.
I know you really like the c240 and want to make it great and all that, but lets say you do all this and after tens of thousands of dollars and months of work, you get to a 350hp car. After all that effort, hows it going to feel when some kid in an Evo that spent $2k on some bolt on mods completely annihilates you without even noticing?
I hope you havent been talking smack to any EVO owners, or fast runners for that matter...
But seriously, if you really want to make this car fast, and not just an explosion waiting to happen, you'll need to start thinking in reality. That involves taking into account that you cant turn a 190 HP car into a 350 HP car with bolt on modifications.
If you really want to make a run at this project you're going to need to pull the engine, probably bore it out a bit more to increase displacement, get custom internals that can handle the boost, then go with a Kleemann or AMG blower (i wouldnt recommend the AMG route, it gets really expensive really fast. There's a guy on the AMG section that put an e55 blower on a c55 and it cost a LOT), probably need new camshafts, new headers, a c32 transmission wouldn't hurt, and THEN you have to get the software to make it all work together and honestly i have NO idea where you'd get that. And you'll still have weird issues with the car. Plus where are you going to get all this done? You could take the car TO Kleemann and they'd still have a tough time getting you there.
I know you really like the c240 and want to make it great and all that, but lets say you do all this and after tens of thousands of dollars and months of work, you get to a 350hp car. After all that effort, hows it going to feel when some kid in an Evo that spent $2k on some bolt on mods completely annihilates you without even noticing?
https://mbworld.org/forums/attachmen...class-w203.pdf
But - It is a heavy vehicle No1, It has a hopelessly underdeveloped lazy engine which is why it will run for nearly a million Km unopened - Have a friend in Malaysia who is about to achieve that. It is a willing revver & could be modified.
The tuning houses have never really provided bolt on go fast bit's for the little V6 - So - you are on your own. You would have to do a full development on the engine. Upgrade injectors & custom ECU tune for mods done. Heads done from scratch on a flow bench, valves, cams, custom manifolds/headers, exhaust etc. Forged rods etc. & if you wanted to bore the engine for greater capacity you would have to sleeve it because it has Alusil bores. If you then want to go for forced induction you would need a piston change to reduce CR. And so on & so forth. You are terribly space constrained if you choose to turbocharge without cutting hell out of the body. You also have a difficult electronics regime on the car to overcome.
It's possible but would be financially not worth it & you would need access to a high end tuning shop with a decent dyno, flow benches, the ability to cut 3 angles on valves, reprofile & harden cams, a good electronics guy to do the ECU to match everything you have done etc. I have spent plenty of time in Pakistan & most of the work would have to be done in UAE or similar. Pakistan does not have a well developed racing industry.
Your call.
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.. Just wait and buy a C32 please.. You'll spend a unreasonable amount of money.
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It is hilarious that people give real advice to this guy as though this is a serious thread. It's not a serious thread.
Add an ///AMG badge, and an ///M badge so you have a MC240AMG and you'll have 154845484hp.
The word "gullible" is written on your ceilings.
Add an ///AMG badge, and an ///M badge so you have a MC240AMG and you'll have 154845484hp.
The word "gullible" is written on your ceilings.
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I have not been on this forum in a while and I come back and see this. I dont mean to sound like a a$$ to your or anything but the reality is your wasting effort and your money. Having been around Mercedes my entire life and family with 30+ years. I have not ever seen a person tune a C240. I am not a tunner type of guy on really any car but I can see doing wheels, tinted windows, interior mods using quality OEM parts but taking a 4,000Lbs car(C240) that does nor to 60 in 9.0 or so and trying to make it fast is just very silly
. I admire your effort but question the logic. To put it more into real world here I can sell you a wonderful 2002 E430(Every option) we just got with a 0-60 time of around 6.6 and you could tune that if the AMG upkeep is too high for you. Even finding a 500 series of something would be a heck of alot better. The C240 is a very nice car and its great to cuck miles at and not worry about it.(Its pretty care free for the most part) but its not a power house and getting it to do nor to 60 in 6 seconds well. Unless God really likes you and you have a steep steep hill. We have C32 and C55 to do this job. 
. I admire your effort but question the logic. To put it more into real world here I can sell you a wonderful 2002 E430(Every option) we just got with a 0-60 time of around 6.6 and you could tune that if the AMG upkeep is too high for you. Even finding a 500 series of something would be a heck of alot better. The C240 is a very nice car and its great to cuck miles at and not worry about it.(Its pretty care free for the most part) but its not a power house and getting it to do nor to 60 in 6 seconds well. Unless God really likes you and you have a steep steep hill. We have C32 and C55 to do this job.
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Listen to this man & splinter. Firstly - The C240 is a damn nice car & was preferred model of the standard bunch by the motoring press in Europe - discounting the AMG C32/C55.
https://mbworld.org/forums/attachmen...class-w203.pdf
But - It is a heavy vehicle No1, It has a hopelessly underdeveloped lazy engine which is why it will run for nearly a million Km unopened - Have a friend in Malaysia who is about to achieve that. It is a willing revver & could be modified.
The tuning houses have never really provided bolt on go fast bit's for the little V6 - So - you are on your own. You would have to do a full development on the engine. Upgrade injectors & custom ECU tune for mods done. Heads done from scratch on a flow bench, valves, cams, custom manifolds/headers, exhaust etc. Forged rods etc. & if you wanted to bore the engine for greater capacity you would have to sleeve it because it has Alusil bores. If you then want to go for forced induction you would need a piston change to reduce CR. And so on & so forth. You are terribly space constrained if you choose to turbocharge without cutting hell out of the body. You also have a difficult electronics regime on the car to overcome.
It's possible but would be financially not worth it & you would need access to a high end tuning shop with a decent dyno, flow benches, the ability to cut 3 angles on valves, reprofile & harden cams, a good electronics guy to do the ECU to match everything you have done etc. I have spent plenty of time in Pakistan & most of the work would have to be done in UAE or similar. Pakistan does not have a well developed racing industry.
Your call.
https://mbworld.org/forums/attachmen...class-w203.pdf
But - It is a heavy vehicle No1, It has a hopelessly underdeveloped lazy engine which is why it will run for nearly a million Km unopened - Have a friend in Malaysia who is about to achieve that. It is a willing revver & could be modified.
The tuning houses have never really provided bolt on go fast bit's for the little V6 - So - you are on your own. You would have to do a full development on the engine. Upgrade injectors & custom ECU tune for mods done. Heads done from scratch on a flow bench, valves, cams, custom manifolds/headers, exhaust etc. Forged rods etc. & if you wanted to bore the engine for greater capacity you would have to sleeve it because it has Alusil bores. If you then want to go for forced induction you would need a piston change to reduce CR. And so on & so forth. You are terribly space constrained if you choose to turbocharge without cutting hell out of the body. You also have a difficult electronics regime on the car to overcome.
It's possible but would be financially not worth it & you would need access to a high end tuning shop with a decent dyno, flow benches, the ability to cut 3 angles on valves, reprofile & harden cams, a good electronics guy to do the ECU to match everything you have done etc. I have spent plenty of time in Pakistan & most of the work would have to be done in UAE or similar. Pakistan does not have a well developed racing industry.
Your call.
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The super charger is for sale now since it can't fit onto my 240.
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I have not been on this forum in a while and I come back and see this. I dont mean to sound like a a$$ to your or anything but the reality is your wasting effort and your money. Having been around Mercedes my entire life and family with 30+ years. I have not ever seen a person tune a C240. I am not a tunner type of guy on really any car but I can see doing wheels, tinted windows, interior mods using quality OEM parts but taking a 4,000Lbs car(C240) that does nor to 60 in 9.0 or so and trying to make it fast is just very silly. I admire your effort but question the logic. To put it more into real world here I can sell you a wonderful 2002 E430(Every option) we just got with a 0-60 time of around 6.6 and you could tune that if the AMG upkeep is too high for you. Even finding a 500 series of something would be a heck of alot better. The C240 is a very nice car and its great to cuck miles at and not worry about it.(Its pretty care free for the most part) but its not a power house and getting it to do nor to 60 in 6 seconds well. Unless God really likes you and you have a steep steep hill. We have C32 and C55 to do this job.
. I admire your effort but question the logic. To put it more into real world here I can sell you a wonderful 2002 E430(Every option) we just got with a 0-60 time of around 6.6 and you could tune that if the AMG upkeep is too high for you. Even finding a 500 series of something would be a heck of alot better. The C240 is a very nice car and its great to cuck miles at and not worry about it.(Its pretty care free for the most part) but its not a power house and getting it to do nor to 60 in 6 seconds well. Unless God really likes you and you have a steep steep hill. We have C32 and C55 to do this job. 
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OP is either a troll or a young person. Or, his mental state is still not very mature. Things like him boasting about the cars his dad owns and how he has a c230k supercharger and how he has destroyed it is just not something a person who has been through a good portion of the course of life would say. No intention of offending, just pointing out this might be the case. As the thread progresses, more fibs are being thrown down to cover earlier ones.
Nonetheless, if I am wrong, good luck. I have been in the same exact shoes. Young, with a c240, thinking I can make it run fast. Then I faced reality. I drive a c240. Odds are that it will not be fast. I cannot make an entry line luxury car from Benz into something it is not. That is when I started taking care of the car to provide longevity.
Anyway, Akber, to try and aid you, look into underdrive pullies. They will free up some horses.
Nonetheless, if I am wrong, good luck. I have been in the same exact shoes. Young, with a c240, thinking I can make it run fast. Then I faced reality. I drive a c240. Odds are that it will not be fast. I cannot make an entry line luxury car from Benz into something it is not. That is when I started taking care of the car to provide longevity.
Anyway, Akber, to try and aid you, look into underdrive pullies. They will free up some horses.
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OP is either a troll or a young person. Or, his mental state is still not very mature. Things like him boasting about the cars his dad owns and how he has a c230k supercharger and how he has destroyed it is just not something a person who has been through a good portion of the course of life would say. No intention of offending, just pointing out this might be the case. As the thread progresses, more fibs are being thrown down to cover earlier ones.
Nonetheless, if I am wrong, good luck. I have been in the same exact shoes. Young, with a c240, thinking I can make it run fast. Then I faced reality. I drive a c240. Odds are that it will not be fast. I cannot make an entry line luxury car from Benz into something it is not. That is when I started taking care of the car to provide longevity.
Anyway, Akber, to try and aid you, look into underdrive pullies. They will free up some horses.
Nonetheless, if I am wrong, good luck. I have been in the same exact shoes. Young, with a c240, thinking I can make it run fast. Then I faced reality. I drive a c240. Odds are that it will not be fast. I cannot make an entry line luxury car from Benz into something it is not. That is when I started taking care of the car to provide longevity.
Anyway, Akber, to try and aid you, look into underdrive pullies. They will free up some horses.
