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Old Apr 14, 2011 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by phister
Megan or ksport a reputable company's, more in the import scene than euro but they're quality products. If I had the money I'd get KW V2 coilovers. I have tein basic but I can't complain about the ride comfort they are spot on IMO. Friends are so surprised about how smooth the ride is even though I'm so low.
The pro speaks. How about handling? Will the adjusting dampening effect handling as well or just the firmness?

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Old Apr 14, 2011 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by C230Kreepin'
Sorry, I found them on this site for 610:
http://performance.importrp.com/koni.../i-226893.aspx

In regards to the coilovers, I dont really want to be riding too low. Do you know if anyone has ever used the megan coilovers? Also, would i need a camber kit for these?
You'll need a camber kit for your rears when lowering your car. It may look like you don't when you lower it but in time you'll see your inner tires wearing out quicker. Tein springs would be ok if you don't have the ss model. The ss springs are actually stiffer than teins in that case. As for the other models it may be a touch stiffer. If you don't want too much of a drop I'd look into buying a setup of ss springs and struts, they super cheap in the classifieds.
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Old Apr 14, 2011 | 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Karo
The pro speaks. How about handling? Will the adjusting dampening effect handling as well or just the firmness?

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Dampening will adjust handling because of how much rebound you'll get. If your dampening is stiffer it can handle turns better you feel less mush but your car will feel like your on a pogo stick. Too soft and it'll feel like your riding in a boat on waves because it'll be absorbing all the bumps on the road. You balance between the two so your car can handle better but comfortable enough when going over bumps and normal everyday roads. You would hate a super stiff ride for everyday driving. You've probably seem some fixed up cars with stiff suspension and the car bounces and moves on every single bump on the road instead of going smoothly over and the struts rebound to take on the bumps. So its up to your preference on how to dial it in. I prefer a little stiffer for performance than a smooth comfortable ride.
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Old Apr 14, 2011 | 09:46 AM
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Ya, I like stiff too
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Old Apr 14, 2011 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Karo
Ya, I like stiff too
Buahaha you like pogo stick stiff because that's how havoc looks like when you have him grabbing his ankled hahaha
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Old Apr 14, 2011 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by phister
Buahaha you like pogo stick stiff because that's how havoc looks like when you have him grabbing his ankled hahaha
Hey, you're the one who said you made Mike's picture as your desktop. Mike for some reason he asked me if I have good photoshop skills

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Old Apr 14, 2011 | 10:13 AM
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That's cause i heard havoc was almost the same size as the emblem. I was going to mail you a poster for your wall.
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Old Apr 14, 2011 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by phister
Megan or ksport a reputable company's, more in the import scene than euro but they're quality products. If I had the money I'd get KW V2 coilovers. I have tein basic but I can't complain about the ride comfort they are spot on IMO. Friends are so surprised about how smooth the ride is even though I'm so low.
When I was looking at air-ride suspensions, a lot of people on the import forums were ******* Ksport. Of course I guess there would be those same people in every crowd, my only issue was that they say on the products that they are not for street use. If they are a quality product, then I may have to re-think my former decision, but then again with a sub in the trunk, I don't know where I'd put the air-tank!
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Old Apr 14, 2011 | 01:58 PM
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Well you can get air ride suspension not hydraulics lol two different things
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Old Apr 14, 2011 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by phister
Dampening will adjust handling because of how much rebound you'll get. If your dampening is stiffer it can handle turns better you feel less mush but your car will feel like your on a pogo stick. Too soft and it'll feel like your riding in a boat on waves because it'll be absorbing all the bumps on the road. You balance between the two so your car can handle better but comfortable enough when going over bumps and normal everyday roads. You would hate a super stiff ride for everyday driving. You've probably seem some fixed up cars with stiff suspension and the car bounces and moves on every single bump on the road instead of going smoothly over and the struts rebound to take on the bumps. So its up to your preference on how to dial it in. I prefer a little stiffer for performance than a smooth comfortable ride.
how easy is it to adjust the dampening? if its not too bad, i'll probably get coilovers and just adjust to stiff when i go out for a mountain cruise and then make it a bit soft for a smooth ride on a daily basis
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Old Apr 14, 2011 | 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by phister
Well you can get air ride suspension not hydraulics lol two different things
But what if I want to bounce down the road? I'd love to be able to lower it while I'm parked, and raise it up for driving
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Old Apr 14, 2011 | 11:32 PM
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Air ride can do that. Shoot mb had stock air suspension on the older 1960s cars that did that. When it was put in park it'd automatically lower.
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Old Apr 26, 2011 | 06:20 PM
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hey guys. ive already lowered my C280 4matic with the vogtland awd sport springs. but now i feel i should have replaced my shocks/struts also, should i go with oem shocks or aftermarket sport ones (which i cant seem to find for the awd) any help would be awesome.. what to do??
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Old Apr 26, 2011 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by EZKO750
hey guys. ive already lowered my C280 4matic with the vogtland awd sport springs. but now i feel i should have replaced my shocks/struts also, should i go with oem shocks or aftermarket sport ones (which i cant seem to find for the awd) any help would be awesome.. what to do??
you'll want aftermarket because OEM are going to wear out faster on a lowered car. It'll bottom out and the piston in the struts dont get the full travel it needs. Brands like Koni, KYB, and Bilstein are build for the short springs.

Call up Koni and see if they have any for your car.
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Old Apr 26, 2011 | 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by EZKO750
hey guys. ive already lowered my C280 4matic with the vogtland awd sport springs. but now i feel i should have replaced my shocks/struts also, should i go with oem shocks or aftermarket sport ones (which i cant seem to find for the awd) any help would be awesome.. what to do??
were you able to install springs without having the E20 socket?
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Old Apr 28, 2011 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by NOCSUCOW
were you able to install springs without having the E20 socket?
not sure. ill ask my installer for you. i ddnt do the work personally..
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Old Apr 28, 2011 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by phister
you'll want aftermarket because OEM are going to wear out faster on a lowered car. It'll bottom out and the piston in the struts dont get the full travel it needs. Brands like Koni, KYB, and Bilstein are build for the short springs.

Call up Koni and see if they have any for your car.
contacted all 3 . Koni and bilstein dont make any for the awd's .still waiting on KYB.. thanks anyways
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Old Apr 29, 2011 | 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by EZKO750
contacted all 3 . Koni and bilstein dont make any for the awd's .still waiting on KYB.. thanks anyways
good luck, it's a lot harder to find these for 4matics
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Old May 22, 2011 | 02:44 PM
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So I'm reading everywhere on forum and off forum that Tein lowers a 2002 C240 lower than H&R and vice versa. Which is it? I can seem to find a definite answer. As you know, the C240 has a high front than the rear. I was thinking of leaving my H&Rs in the rear and putting the Teins in the front for a much nicer look. Any suggestions?
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Old May 22, 2011 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by c240DUDE
So I'm reading everywhere on forum and off forum that Tein lowers a 2002 C240 lower than H&R and vice versa. Which is it? I can seem to find a definite answer. As you know, the C240 has a high front than the rear. I was thinking of leaving my H&Rs in the rear and putting the Teins in the front for a much nicer look. Any suggestions?
In regards to springs, Tein has a larger drop in the front than the H&Rs but with coilovers its the the other way around. I had Tein Springs on my C240 and the drop was nice but I wanted to go lower in the front so I purchased H&R coilovers. Good luck with the drop. If I were stateside I would sell you my Tein springs but i'm not.
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Old May 22, 2011 | 03:23 PM
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Teins springs will drop your model lower but the spring rate is way softer than h&r and OEM ss springs. You can always look into SS springs and struts. It'll give your car a nice drop and factory performance. They sell pretty cheap in the classifieds on here.
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Old May 22, 2011 | 04:09 PM
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I'm rolling on Brabus springs. 30mm drop both front and rear, on stock struts. Definitely stiffer than OEM but also comfy enough for daily driving (minus the occasional pothole).

People are complaining about stock struts wearing out faster, but I have 110000km on mine (installed the springs at 85000) and everything's still looking good.
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Old May 22, 2011 | 04:50 PM
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I installed some STechs recently and for some reason there is a gap between the upper bushing and the flat piece of metal that goes across it on both sides.
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Old May 22, 2011 | 07:26 PM
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Hey guys...I have a set of H&Rs ****ting in the garage since this winter waiting to be installed. What tools do I need besides the spring compressor to get these on?
Any advice? Thanks in advance.
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Old May 22, 2011 | 11:03 PM
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Well you'll need to take off the shock breakers out, the tires too, but i'm not sure what the tools are called. You'lll also need a jack...
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