My C230k Coupe Project
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haha my actual name is Max. and i hope you didn't think Mehoff is really my last name. hard to understand a joke when reading a text lol. but i can't decide if i want to get my speakers in, my sways, tint ( getting sunny so probably next), full leather interior.... grill, hids for the fogs, or side window deflectors... kinda trying to decide off the top of my head which ones to choose from.. i'll get rims and lip after i do all that.... oh and i need to install ADVANS's lorinser wing...
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If you have adjustable dampeners, I beleive you may have the SS, or Super Streets.
It's fun to play with them, 16 settings, on different types of road.
I only drove once on the stiffest setting on Hwy 108 from 395.
Oooo Weee! I was the only car on the road from Bridgeport to Strawberry.
Big Fun.
So I guess they did redo the rear springs if yours is as low as it goes.
I like my fenders to line up almost exactly to the top of the tires.
Looks nice, not ricey, and not noticeable to law enforcement and
insurance companies.
It's fun to play with them, 16 settings, on different types of road.
I only drove once on the stiffest setting on Hwy 108 from 395.
Oooo Weee! I was the only car on the road from Bridgeport to Strawberry.
Big Fun.
So I guess they did redo the rear springs if yours is as low as it goes.
I like my fenders to line up almost exactly to the top of the tires.
Looks nice, not ricey, and not noticeable to law enforcement and
insurance companies.
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C230 Coupe Silver
If you have adjustable dampeners, I beleive you may have the SS, or Super Streets.
It's fun to play with them, 16 settings, on different types of road.
I only drove once on the stiffest setting on Hwy 108 from 395.
Oooo Weee! I was the only car on the road from Bridgeport to Strawberry.
Big Fun.
So I guess they did redo the rear springs if yours is as low as it goes.
I like my fenders to line up almost exactly to the top of the tires.
Looks nice, not ricey, and not noticeable to law enforcement and
insurance companies.
It's fun to play with them, 16 settings, on different types of road.
I only drove once on the stiffest setting on Hwy 108 from 395.
Oooo Weee! I was the only car on the road from Bridgeport to Strawberry.
Big Fun.
So I guess they did redo the rear springs if yours is as low as it goes.
I like my fenders to line up almost exactly to the top of the tires.
Looks nice, not ricey, and not noticeable to law enforcement and
insurance companies.
but mine are about perfect with the tire right now. i love it
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What was funny was Xhale was hating on people for putting on AMG kits because their cars aren't AMG. But apparently for him, it's ok to have Brabus reps on your car just because it doesn't say Brabus on it. Last time I checked AMG kits don't have AMG written on it. His arguments were so stupid.
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IMO what makes a car an AMG is whats under the hood. Having the body kit doesn't make your car an AMG, so if you do badge it up people WILL hate lol. Do what you want though.
What was funny was Xhale was hating on people for putting on AMG kits because their cars aren't AMG. But apparently for him, it's ok to have Brabus reps on your car just because it doesn't say Brabus on it. Last time I checked AMG kits don't have AMG written on it. His arguments were so stupid.
What was funny was Xhale was hating on people for putting on AMG kits because their cars aren't AMG. But apparently for him, it's ok to have Brabus reps on your car just because it doesn't say Brabus on it. Last time I checked AMG kits don't have AMG written on it. His arguments were so stupid.
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wow... advans just killed my night.....
he told me i need to be ready for my engine mounts to fail because that happens to most dropped benzs
just fixed the stupid sensor freak out and now i'm told my engine mounts are about to fail on me
so upset i don't even know what to say... :'(
he told me i need to be ready for my engine mounts to fail because that happens to most dropped benzs
just fixed the stupid sensor freak out and now i'm told my engine mounts are about to fail on me
so upset i don't even know what to say... :'(
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haha my actual name is Max. and i hope you didn't think Mehoff is really my last name. hard to understand a joke when reading a text lol. but i can't decide if i want to get my speakers in, my sways, tint ( getting sunny so probably next), full leather interior.... grill, hids for the fogs, or side window deflectors... kinda trying to decide off the top of my head which ones to choose from.. i'll get rims and lip after i do all that.... oh and i need to install ADVANS's lorinser wing...
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I know the joke bro i know Karo on a personal level and once you read threads back and forth you will figure we are regulars at joking around here haha
And damm that sucks about the motor mounts ... wonder if there is any way to avoid it
hope the best for you're car bro and you and jeep us posted on her progress
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Yeah it does..
Although I'm not sure how lowering a car can affect engine mounts. Dropping lowers the entire frame of the car and the engine attached to it...so the relative displacement between the engine and frame will remain the same before and after the drop.
Maybe advans can clarify??
Although I'm not sure how lowering a car can affect engine mounts. Dropping lowers the entire frame of the car and the engine attached to it...so the relative displacement between the engine and frame will remain the same before and after the drop.
Maybe advans can clarify??
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Yeah it does..
Although I'm not sure how lowering a car can affect engine mounts. Dropping lowers the entire frame of the car and the engine attached to it...so the relative displacement between the engine and frame will remain the same before and after the drop.
Maybe advans can clarify??
Although I'm not sure how lowering a car can affect engine mounts. Dropping lowers the entire frame of the car and the engine attached to it...so the relative displacement between the engine and frame will remain the same before and after the drop.
Maybe advans can clarify??
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Max huh
Serious note
I know the joke bro i know Karo on a personal level and once you read threads back and forth you will figure we are regulars at joking around here haha
And damm that sucks about the motor mounts ... wonder if there is any way to avoid it
hope the best for you're car bro and you and jeep us posted on her progress
Serious note
I know the joke bro i know Karo on a personal level and once you read threads back and forth you will figure we are regulars at joking around here haha
And damm that sucks about the motor mounts ... wonder if there is any way to avoid it
hope the best for you're car bro and you and jeep us posted on her progress
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i think dropping it would not just affect the engine mounts but the whole frame of the car. not in bending the frame or anything, you just have to remember that what happens with stiffer springs is more force is dispersed throughout the car as opposed to being absorbed by the suspension.
there is always force being transferred from the suspension to the car, its just that when the springs are softer, that energy is "lost" with the springs movement, when the springs don't move, that energy has to go somewhere so it gets transferred elsewhere.
theres some physics 101 for ya, lol
there is always force being transferred from the suspension to the car, its just that when the springs are softer, that energy is "lost" with the springs movement, when the springs don't move, that energy has to go somewhere so it gets transferred elsewhere.
theres some physics 101 for ya, lol
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Also I forgot to mention, we use hydraulic motor mounts. Just trowing this out there. You risk busting your engine mount more if you always floor your car and accelerate everywhere you go.
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i think dropping it would not just affect the engine mounts but the whole frame of the car. not in bending the frame or anything, you just have to remember that what happens with stiffer springs is more force is dispersed throughout the car as opposed to being absorbed by the suspension.
there is always force being transferred from the suspension to the car, its just that when the springs are softer, that energy is "lost" with the springs movement, when the springs don't move, that energy has to go somewhere so it gets transferred elsewhere.
theres some physics 101 for ya, lol
there is always force being transferred from the suspension to the car, its just that when the springs are softer, that energy is "lost" with the springs movement, when the springs don't move, that energy has to go somewhere so it gets transferred elsewhere.
theres some physics 101 for ya, lol
There is a variable called the spring tension factor which you are completely overlooking. Most high quality lowering kits are designed with newer spring with varying spring tension factors from the top of the spring to the bottom. So essentially, even though the spring is shorter in length, the overall energy absorption capability remains the same as the original spring because of the higher spring tension factor in a certain section of the spring.
The vertical travel distance while going over a bump of the cars chassis will definitely reduce when dropped, but the energy absorbed by the spring will be the same.
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This is true only in the case of ghetto car drops...like when the original springs are cut.
There is a variable called the spring tension factor which you are completely overlooking. Most high quality lowering kits are designed with newer spring with varying spring tension factors from the top of the spring to the bottom. So essentially, even though the spring is shorter in length, the overall energy absorption capability remains the same as the original spring because of the higher spring tension factor in a certain section of the spring.
The vertical travel distance while going over a bump of the cars chassis will definitely reduce when dropped, but the energy absorbed by the spring will be the same.
There is a variable called the spring tension factor which you are completely overlooking. Most high quality lowering kits are designed with newer spring with varying spring tension factors from the top of the spring to the bottom. So essentially, even though the spring is shorter in length, the overall energy absorption capability remains the same as the original spring because of the higher spring tension factor in a certain section of the spring.
The vertical travel distance while going over a bump of the cars chassis will definitely reduce when dropped, but the energy absorbed by the spring will be the same.
Speaking of springs being "cut" can anyone say XHALE???!?! LOL
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Haha just realized I'm going to start getting really upset with people that take turning on ramps and off ramps going like 30mph now that I can take them going 60 haha. Need to get them eibach sways and an alignment and I'm golden.
