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Old 05-22-2003, 01:49 PM
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Group Buy: C32 Brake Upgrade

As the company that first brought you the C32 brake upgrade, we are please to also offer the most competitive pricing. We have lowered our retail price to $595.

Even better, if 10 (or more) people come together to purchase the brake upgrade, I will lower the price to $549. This should give everyone the opportunity to have equal stopping power as the C32!

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what does the package includes?
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Damn! If you would've only done this 4 months sooner
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ok, dumb question:

$595/wheel? so times 4?
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The C32 /03 CLK55brake upgrade consists of the front rotors, calipers, pads, and pad sensors. Doing this will give you the exact front brakes as the C32/03 CLK55.

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Originally posted by Mach430
The C32 /03 CLK55brake upgrade consists of the front rotors, calipers, pads, and pad sensors. Doing this will give you the exact front brakes as the C32/03 CLK55.

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Will I be able to use my stock wheels? Every so often [when my wife dents a wheel], I put them on. Is it a do it yourself [Kwik] job?

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mach...i will be back in singapore for 3 mths...can i get it when i come back? or is it too late??
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Oh, and another question: is this per brake set (meaning we have to buy 2), or is the cost for both sides?
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i believe 595 is for the 2 wheels
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Originally posted by Xeon
mach...i will be back in singapore for 3 mths...can i get it when i come back? or is it too late??
Pricing can easiliy fluctuate in 3 months time. I would recommend ordering and shipping to someone who can hold it for you until you return.
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what about the rear set? also, do these brakes mean that the mini-spare tire can't be used anymore?
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The spare would have to be at least 17" (and probably need a spacer). There is no point in doing the rears. The majority of your braking is done in the front of the car, and the C32 rear brakes are nothing to brag about.
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Ben, I am in...when can we execute on this or do we wait to see if we get 10+? Thanks!
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For the $549 pricing, we will need 10+ orders. At $595 I can take the order now. If you would like to get in on the $549 pricing, please email ben@evosport.com with your full name, email address, and phone number. I will then contact you for billing information.

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ben, is there any way you can make the brake "package" with brembo cross-drilled directional rotors as opposed to the brembo "AMG" non-directional rotors?
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Yes the 209 55 brakes will fit the CLK209 55. You would have to change the entire brakes, not just the rotors, as they are different sizes and would not line up properly.
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Originally posted by antonio
ben, is there any way you can make the brake "package" with brembo cross-drilled directional rotors as opposed to the brembo "AMG" non-directional rotors?
Brembo does not make cross-drilled directional rotors for the C32/CLK209 front. Unless you track the car, you will not noticed the difference. The rotors would really benefit from being a 2-piece kit, but that would add about $1200 to the price!

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i have a question regarding the amg brakes.

if you add a better/bigger or more powerful caliper to do the stopping duties but do not change the tire on the car, then in reality you have gained nothing. the tire does the stopping, not the caliper. the tire is what offers the resistance to the road, not the caliper. so my question is why would someone pay this money to gain nothing more than a caliper with the amg logo on it?
also a car with abs will only apply so much pressure and then will release it upon the onset of lockup. the lockup is caused by the tire losing traction on the road surface, so what is to be gained by this upgrade?


this is not meant to start a flame war, this is a valid question i would like answered. actualy i have answered it im just curious as to the views from the other side.
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with the c32 brake upgrade, what offset do the wheels have to be? front and rear!!!
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Will I be able to use my stock wheels? Every so often [when my wife dents a wheel], I put them on. Is it a do it yourself [Kwik] job?
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Originally posted by nov0798
i have a question regarding the amg brakes.

if you add a better/bigger or more powerful caliper to do the stopping duties but do not change the tire on the car, then in reality you have gained nothing. the tire does the stopping, not the caliper. the tire is what offers the resistance to the road, not the caliper. so my question is why would someone pay this money to gain nothing more than a caliper with the amg logo on it?
also a car with abs will only apply so much pressure and then will release it upon the onset of lockup. the lockup is caused by the tire losing traction on the road surface, so what is to be gained by this upgrade?


this is not meant to start a flame war, this is a valid question i would like answered. actualy i have answered it im just curious as to the views from the other side.
1. The typical big brake upgrade usually increases fade resistance...
2. It looks better for those who've done a +2 or +3 wheel upgrade.

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the only way to change the fade resistance is with either a different compound of pad, or a different rotor design. the calipers have nothing to do with it.
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That actually is not 100% true. Pretty close. However, a caliper's material and design can help to dissapaite heat, thereby reducing fade. The less heat, the more fade-resistent. Calipers that have more pistons and more surface area and have a more efficient design do resist heat more then cast one piece one piston calipers.

You should see some of the race Brembo calipers we use! WOW.

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Originally posted by CHATMANR
Will I be able to use my stock wheels? Every so often [when my wife dents a wheel], I put them on. Is it a do it yourself [Kwik] job?
It will clear any 17" wheel, but may requie a spacer. The C32 brakes will clear the wheels from the C7 coupe package. It will not work on the stock 16"s, as the inside diameter is too small to fit them.

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Originally posted by nov0798
i have a question regarding the amg brakes.

if you add a better/bigger or more powerful caliper to do the stopping duties but do not change the tire on the car, then in reality you have gained nothing. the tire does the stopping, not the caliper. the tire is what offers the resistance to the road, not the caliper. so my question is why would someone pay this money to gain nothing more than a caliper with the amg logo on it?
also a car with abs will only apply so much pressure and then will release it upon the onset of lockup. the lockup is caused by the tire losing traction on the road surface, so what is to be gained by this upgrade?


this is not meant to start a flame war, this is a valid question i would like answered. actualy i have answered it im just curious as to the views from the other side.
Well, again, you are close.

IF the tires are the limiting factor you are 100% right. However, that is NOT the case here. Any good street tire has FAR more grip then the factory brakes can utilize. Look at SPEED World Challenge. Touring is forced to run on street Toyo TA1's and you will still see EVERY car with Brembo, AP or StopTech. Are you telling me that this is for looks only? Nope, this is for 1) fade resistence, 2) better modulation, 3) more consistent stopping, 4) shorter stopping.

Also, as to the ABS issue, you can get shorter stops with a bigger kit, again because the tires are not the limiting factor. Yes, the ABS will release at the onset of lock-up. However, with a bigger kit you will have more surface area of contact (rotor to pad) which will bring the wheels/tires closer that point of onset (shorter distance) and apply greater force, slowing that spinning mass down much sooner.

Your thoughts on this are pretty good, you are just assuming the wrong factor as the limiting one.

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