C200 CDi AUTO GEARBOX PROBLEM - HELP PLEASE
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C200 CDi AUTO GEARBOX PROBLEM - HELP PLEASE
Can anyone help/shed some light…?
I have a C Class 200 CDi 2005 (facelift W203 5 speed auto Gearbox).
Recently on occasions I have been experiencing problems with the gearbox. The car seems to get stuck in a specific gear and won’t allow any automatic or tip-tronic gear change, even if I put my foot down on the accelerator to the point where I am pressing the button underneath the accelerator pedal the gears won’t change.
It seems like it goes into limp mode. The tiptronic doesn’t work as well when this happens. When this is happening when I put it into neutral and reverse it jumps which doesn’t feel right and doesn’t happen when the gearbox is fine. Once I switch the car on and off it seems to be working perfectly fine. It only seems to do this when I am driving local as motorway once I am in 5th gear it’s not a problem.
Any ideas? I had the gearbox serviced about a year ago changing the filter and oil (I did use genuine Mercedes parts).
Any help would be much appreciated.
I have a C Class 200 CDi 2005 (facelift W203 5 speed auto Gearbox).
Recently on occasions I have been experiencing problems with the gearbox. The car seems to get stuck in a specific gear and won’t allow any automatic or tip-tronic gear change, even if I put my foot down on the accelerator to the point where I am pressing the button underneath the accelerator pedal the gears won’t change.
It seems like it goes into limp mode. The tiptronic doesn’t work as well when this happens. When this is happening when I put it into neutral and reverse it jumps which doesn’t feel right and doesn’t happen when the gearbox is fine. Once I switch the car on and off it seems to be working perfectly fine. It only seems to do this when I am driving local as motorway once I am in 5th gear it’s not a problem.
Any ideas? I had the gearbox serviced about a year ago changing the filter and oil (I did use genuine Mercedes parts).
Any help would be much appreciated.
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From: Israel
2005 C200 CDI
Do you get any warnings / lights at the instrument panel?
Did you take it to the garage for a STAR diagnostics? any codes popped there?
I have a C200 CDI 2005 and it sounds like it might be gear sensor or ECU needs reprogramming. I had my ECU reprogrammed cause of weird error codes and occasional limp mode with no warnings.
BTW, where are you from?
Did you take it to the garage for a STAR diagnostics? any codes popped there?
I have a C200 CDI 2005 and it sounds like it might be gear sensor or ECU needs reprogramming. I had my ECU reprogrammed cause of weird error codes and occasional limp mode with no warnings.
BTW, where are you from?
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late 2009 CLK 350 Coupe Elegance, '65 Jaguar S Type wires
The car is going into limp mode to protect the transmission. It comes out of limp when you reboot the TCU by restarting. Make sure that the oil cooler in the bottom of the radiator is not externally clogged with crap.
Please check for stored codes with an OBDII scanner.
Check fluid level in the transmission. Might be low or getting too hot. 99% of problems are fluid level related.
Check electrohydraulic bush on the front RHS diagonal of the transmission for oil leaking past the o rings. If oil gets onto the TCU harness it can cause all sorts of trouble & ultimately wick oil up the harness to the TCU which is under the passenger kick plate. The replacement bush with new o rings is an $8 part. If leaking we can tell you how to replace. Common problem.
Please check for stored codes with an OBDII scanner.
Check fluid level in the transmission. Might be low or getting too hot. 99% of problems are fluid level related.
Check electrohydraulic bush on the front RHS diagonal of the transmission for oil leaking past the o rings. If oil gets onto the TCU harness it can cause all sorts of trouble & ultimately wick oil up the harness to the TCU which is under the passenger kick plate. The replacement bush with new o rings is an $8 part. If leaking we can tell you how to replace. Common problem.
Last edited by Glyn M Ruck; Jun 22, 2011 at 09:54 PM.
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glyn beat me to it........this is it my man...replace/check this and also chcek the harness for any oil creep, when I had this issue I was lucky the dealer ship did it for free, but ever since then I have 2 spare and one is awlays sitting in my car just in case........
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2007 C200 cdi avantgarde se au
REPLY FOR AUOTO GEARBOX MALFUNCTION.
A friend had exactly the same symptoms with his E200 automatic gearbox.
The solution was nothing to do with the gearbox itself. In fact it was due to the cars battery being 7 years old and its voltage had dropped. With this battery the car started up fine and all the usual electrical component worked well.
However the gearbox is computer controlled and losses to voltage at the battery
caused his gearbox problems.
The fitment of a new battery cured all of the gearbox malfunctions.This new battery was fitted approx 2 years ago and the gearbox operation has been perfect ever since.
The solution was nothing to do with the gearbox itself. In fact it was due to the cars battery being 7 years old and its voltage had dropped. With this battery the car started up fine and all the usual electrical component worked well.
However the gearbox is computer controlled and losses to voltage at the battery
caused his gearbox problems.
The fitment of a new battery cured all of the gearbox malfunctions.This new battery was fitted approx 2 years ago and the gearbox operation has been perfect ever since.
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'97 S600, '93 300SE, '98 CL500, '04 S320, '07 525D
I had the same problem with my 722.6 transmission (C220 CDI), goes into limp mode (exactly as described into first post). The solution was replacing the hydraulic block in the transmission. (I don't know if that is the correct word, but in my language is "bloc hidraulic")
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W203 C200CDI
If its the gear selector, see my thread for DIY. I have same car than you
https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...ode-p1856.html
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Merc c220 2002
Merc c220
Hi All,
Jumping in here.. I have pulled my 2002 model apart due to this issue, tracked all wireing. Nothing to do with oil change, filters, rads etc. If you lift up the gear stick unit you will see the gear selector.. You will also see a small unit that slots into the Gear selector with about 4/5 wires going into the unit, hard explain.. But it is like a narrow plug that slots into the module. This is where the problem lies. If you get a tool and push the connected piece to the right and hold it there, switch on your ignition, you will see P R N D and the tip tronic will also work.. If you take the toll away you will lose the gears again.
I currently have a wedge holding the connected piece to the right/ it also works to the left but this will give you the gears and away you go. It is a connection fault that is creating low voltage....
Hope this helps, if I can explain better please ask!
Jumping in here.. I have pulled my 2002 model apart due to this issue, tracked all wireing. Nothing to do with oil change, filters, rads etc. If you lift up the gear stick unit you will see the gear selector.. You will also see a small unit that slots into the Gear selector with about 4/5 wires going into the unit, hard explain.. But it is like a narrow plug that slots into the module. This is where the problem lies. If you get a tool and push the connected piece to the right and hold it there, switch on your ignition, you will see P R N D and the tip tronic will also work.. If you take the toll away you will lose the gears again.
I currently have a wedge holding the connected piece to the right/ it also works to the left but this will give you the gears and away you go. It is a connection fault that is creating low voltage....
Hope this helps, if I can explain better please ask!
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From: Finland, Europe
W203 C200CDI
Hi All,
Jumping in here.. I have pulled my 2002 model apart due to this issue, tracked all wireing. Nothing to do with oil change, filters, rads etc. If you lift up the gear stick unit you will see the gear selector.. You will also see a small unit that slots into the Gear selector with about 4/5 wires going into the unit, hard explain.. But it is like a narrow plug that slots into the module. This is where the problem lies. If you get a tool and push the connected piece to the right and hold it there, switch on your ignition, you will see P R N D and the tip tronic will also work.. If you take the toll away you will lose the gears again.
Jumping in here.. I have pulled my 2002 model apart due to this issue, tracked all wireing. Nothing to do with oil change, filters, rads etc. If you lift up the gear stick unit you will see the gear selector.. You will also see a small unit that slots into the Gear selector with about 4/5 wires going into the unit, hard explain.. But it is like a narrow plug that slots into the module. This is where the problem lies. If you get a tool and push the connected piece to the right and hold it there, switch on your ignition, you will see P R N D and the tip tronic will also work.. If you take the toll away you will lose the gears again.
https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...ode-p1856.html
It is easy part to replace, just plug and play. I accidentally bought that too when fixing my transmission and it cost only about $40 from ebay.
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C-class 200 cdi Saloon
Hi.
I am a new member so dont shoot me if I ask the wrong questions...
I have recently bought a Merc C200 cdi saloon 2001 model with automatic transmission. Nice car, good handling and everything (the car has done 170000 km). But it has these issues with the transmission and it seems to be as you have wrote in this tread. It works fine, but the next second it does not. All gears works, it does not jam in ex the first or second or anything like that, but the transmission seems to shift to early. When the car is rolling the transmission start to shift gears when the engine is at some 1500 rpm. This can not be correct??
I have also noticed that when the transmission is not working properly the engine wont rev up for more than 3500 rpm. If I restart the engine the engine revs goes all up to the limit and the transmission works properly. There is no pattern in when these problems occures. So, who can explain to me what this is and how I am going to fix it?
I am a new member so dont shoot me if I ask the wrong questions...
I have recently bought a Merc C200 cdi saloon 2001 model with automatic transmission. Nice car, good handling and everything (the car has done 170000 km). But it has these issues with the transmission and it seems to be as you have wrote in this tread. It works fine, but the next second it does not. All gears works, it does not jam in ex the first or second or anything like that, but the transmission seems to shift to early. When the car is rolling the transmission start to shift gears when the engine is at some 1500 rpm. This can not be correct??
I have also noticed that when the transmission is not working properly the engine wont rev up for more than 3500 rpm. If I restart the engine the engine revs goes all up to the limit and the transmission works properly. There is no pattern in when these problems occures. So, who can explain to me what this is and how I am going to fix it?
