HELP ME PLEASE – POURED PETROL IN DIESEL ENGINE… I CANT SLEEP!!!!
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Im not trying to scare the kid, however the fix is in simply telling him what he should prob do to fix what is now a big problem.
Dealers arent out to "scam you" there doing what MB corp requires and we arent a free service and advice center, and we arent there to rip you off, the prices are the prices, they may be higher prices but that pays for all the fancy "dealer only" equipment and training that non MB dealer techs and places dont have.
Weather he brought it to a dealer or mechanic, telling the lie about not starting it would have had the same end result, which is where he is. SO I just am saying fibbing about thing, If you go to a good indie or MB, you can get the car fixed right if you tell em what you did.
Any yes it is a big deal when you run gas through a diesel I know since I DO work at a dealer what it does to a car.
Good luck getting it fixed, I still reccomend that you bring it to some one and bite the bullet on getting it fixed by a pro, if you didnt notice the diff in the gas nozzle colors and the fact that you put gas in a diesel then I wouldnt think guiding you to try to repair a complex car such as a MB at 22 is a good idea. Of course I live in sue happy america where thats why no one gives people advice on car repair because they will sue you if your wrong when your trying to be nice. Hope the UK or where your at is better.
Dealers arent out to "scam you" there doing what MB corp requires and we arent a free service and advice center, and we arent there to rip you off, the prices are the prices, they may be higher prices but that pays for all the fancy "dealer only" equipment and training that non MB dealer techs and places dont have.
Weather he brought it to a dealer or mechanic, telling the lie about not starting it would have had the same end result, which is where he is. SO I just am saying fibbing about thing, If you go to a good indie or MB, you can get the car fixed right if you tell em what you did.
Any yes it is a big deal when you run gas through a diesel I know since I DO work at a dealer what it does to a car.
Good luck getting it fixed, I still reccomend that you bring it to some one and bite the bullet on getting it fixed by a pro, if you didnt notice the diff in the gas nozzle colors and the fact that you put gas in a diesel then I wouldnt think guiding you to try to repair a complex car such as a MB at 22 is a good idea. Of course I live in sue happy america where thats why no one gives people advice on car repair because they will sue you if your wrong when your trying to be nice. Hope the UK or where your at is better.
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From: Llandudno, Cape Town, South Africa
late 2009 CLK 350 Coupe Elegance, '65 Jaguar S Type wires
Adidas - please back out of this thread if you have nothing of positive consequence to add. Many dealers are crap & clueless. Their ability to diagnose sucks. Many are just parts replacers.
Good dealers do give plently of free advice to their customers. My dealer that I buy my cars from considers that I own a couple of bricks in the building.
Good dealers do give plently of free advice to their customers. My dealer that I buy my cars from considers that I own a couple of bricks in the building.
Last edited by Glyn M Ruck; Nov 14, 2011 at 07:19 PM.
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From: Llandudno, Cape Town, South Africa
late 2009 CLK 350 Coupe Elegance, '65 Jaguar S Type wires
GC 1985,
My 220CDI does not respond quickly when moving off from the lights.Being an old fart I just idle off & it very smoothly accelerates.
If however the throttle is pushed down quickly there is a very noticeable lag time before the inevitable 400 Nm surge.I think this is because of the electronic throttle ,auto gearbox & turbo lag.
If the car is driven smoothly with anticipation all is well .
So my question is , were you driving the car long enough before the refueling incident to notice how it drove normally?
Good luck tomorrow.
My 220CDI does not respond quickly when moving off from the lights.Being an old fart I just idle off & it very smoothly accelerates.
If however the throttle is pushed down quickly there is a very noticeable lag time before the inevitable 400 Nm surge.I think this is because of the electronic throttle ,auto gearbox & turbo lag.
If the car is driven smoothly with anticipation all is well .
So my question is , were you driving the car long enough before the refueling incident to notice how it drove normally?
Good luck tomorrow.
I've been in Blue Efficiency cars that actually stumble coming off idle. If injectors are fine then a simple ECU reflash fixed the problem by increasing fueling at that point. This sounds horribly like what the OP is experiencing.
ECU Tuners in Europe have had a field day but Benz knows equally well how to eliminate the problem albeit with a slight increase in fuel consumption.
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From: New Orleans, LA
C230K Sedan
Im not trying to scare the kid, however the fix is in simply telling him what he should prob do to fix what is now a big problem.
Dealers arent out to "scam you" there doing what MB corp requires and we arent a free service and advice center, and we arent there to rip you off, the prices are the prices, they may be higher prices but that pays for all the fancy "dealer only" equipment and training that non MB dealer techs and places dont have.
Weather he brought it to a dealer or mechanic, telling the lie about not starting it would have had the same end result, which is where he is. SO I just am saying fibbing about thing, If you go to a good indie or MB, you can get the car fixed right if you tell em what you did.
Any yes it is a big deal when you run gas through a diesel I know since I DO work at a dealer what it does to a car.
Good luck getting it fixed, I still reccomend that you bring it to some one and bite the bullet on getting it fixed by a pro, if you didnt notice the diff in the gas nozzle colors and the fact that you put gas in a diesel then I wouldnt think guiding you to try to repair a complex car such as a MB at 22 is a good idea. Of course I live in sue happy america where thats why no one gives people advice on car repair because they will sue you if your wrong when your trying to be nice. Hope the UK or where your at is better.
Dealers arent out to "scam you" there doing what MB corp requires and we arent a free service and advice center, and we arent there to rip you off, the prices are the prices, they may be higher prices but that pays for all the fancy "dealer only" equipment and training that non MB dealer techs and places dont have.
Weather he brought it to a dealer or mechanic, telling the lie about not starting it would have had the same end result, which is where he is. SO I just am saying fibbing about thing, If you go to a good indie or MB, you can get the car fixed right if you tell em what you did.
Any yes it is a big deal when you run gas through a diesel I know since I DO work at a dealer what it does to a car.
Good luck getting it fixed, I still reccomend that you bring it to some one and bite the bullet on getting it fixed by a pro, if you didnt notice the diff in the gas nozzle colors and the fact that you put gas in a diesel then I wouldnt think guiding you to try to repair a complex car such as a MB at 22 is a good idea. Of course I live in sue happy america where thats why no one gives people advice on car repair because they will sue you if your wrong when your trying to be nice. Hope the UK or where your at is better.
Adidas, talking down on the kid wont help him fix anything.
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From: Israel
2005 C200 CDI
Carsy,
My C200 CDI lags too on acceleration from stand still.
Never bothered me ... well ... except once when I really needed to get somewhere quickly.
Diesels are known laggers but not as GC1985 describes.
Stalling on acceleration is NEVER a normal behavior and needs to be checked by a competent mechanic and not ripoffs and gold diggers.
GC1985, wish I could help you more ...
I will tell you this, more important than knowing your car to the nuts and bolts is having a reliable mechanic (That I learned and glad I have a good mechanic for my Benz).
My C200 CDI lags too on acceleration from stand still.
Never bothered me ... well ... except once when I really needed to get somewhere quickly.
Diesels are known laggers but not as GC1985 describes.
Stalling on acceleration is NEVER a normal behavior and needs to be checked by a competent mechanic and not ripoffs and gold diggers.
GC1985, wish I could help you more ...
I will tell you this, more important than knowing your car to the nuts and bolts is having a reliable mechanic (That I learned and glad I have a good mechanic for my Benz).
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From: 1 hours drive north of Sydney Australia
2007 W204 220CDI Classic Sedan
Carsy,
My C200 CDI lags too on acceleration from stand still.
Never bothered me ... well ... except once when I really needed to get somewhere quickly.
Diesels are known laggers but not as GC1985 describes.
Stalling on acceleration is NEVER a normal behavior and needs to be checked by a competent mechanic and not ripoffs and gold diggers.
GC1985, wish I could help you more ...
I will tell you this, more important than knowing your car to the nuts and bolts is having a reliable mechanic (That I learned and glad I have a good mechanic for my Benz).
My C200 CDI lags too on acceleration from stand still.
Never bothered me ... well ... except once when I really needed to get somewhere quickly.
Diesels are known laggers but not as GC1985 describes.
Stalling on acceleration is NEVER a normal behavior and needs to be checked by a competent mechanic and not ripoffs and gold diggers.
GC1985, wish I could help you more ...
I will tell you this, more important than knowing your car to the nuts and bolts is having a reliable mechanic (That I learned and glad I have a good mechanic for my Benz).
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From: Llandudno, Cape Town, South Africa
late 2009 CLK 350 Coupe Elegance, '65 Jaguar S Type wires
Indeed good advice!. I wish GK could provide more feedback so we can help him but I fully understand his position. He's the messenger.
I just don't want him to spend a fortune chasing a stumble that can be simply fixed by an ECU reflash. If it was a C250 CDi Blue Efficiency that is the first thing I would do. But it is a C220.
EDIT - to me there is a distinct difference between lag & a stumble or flat spot. But we can get caught up in semantics.
I just don't want him to spend a fortune chasing a stumble that can be simply fixed by an ECU reflash. If it was a C250 CDi Blue Efficiency that is the first thing I would do. But it is a C220.
EDIT - to me there is a distinct difference between lag & a stumble or flat spot. But we can get caught up in semantics.
Last edited by Glyn M Ruck; Nov 20, 2011 at 05:04 PM.
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Give us a break, Nick. You're the same guy that tried to pull one over on us about having a C350 manual. The kid panicked.
His first mistake was towing it to a Mercedes dealer. I see they are the same all over the world - as in truly idiotic-levels of absolute ridiculousness. I know you must have recently went to work for one and have a sudden need to defend all things dealer.. but the truth of the matter is that dealers take advantage of people. Someone knowledgeable is their worst enemy.
You're just trying to scare the kid, and that's uncalled for.
His first mistake was towing it to a Mercedes dealer. I see they are the same all over the world - as in truly idiotic-levels of absolute ridiculousness. I know you must have recently went to work for one and have a sudden need to defend all things dealer.. but the truth of the matter is that dealers take advantage of people. Someone knowledgeable is their worst enemy.
You're just trying to scare the kid, and that's uncalled for.
Never go to stealership, atleast find a indy shop to save a few bucks.
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w203 M111 E20 ML EVO
AdidasC230, how dare u scare a kid in such a need??? He is just callin' out for help and surely the least he wanted was bullies like u rolling around and pretending the masters of the universe! AFTER ALL THE LIES U HAVE SPREAD U STILL HAVE THE BOLDNESS TO POST??! I CAN SAY NO MORE! BTW dont worry kiddo, the big issue is to have diesel poured in the petrol engine - vice versa aint so harmful from my personal experience
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Don't let people pressure you in life.
You knew you shouldn't start the car, but you let some ******** get to you.
A lesson learned.
Well, hopefully it will all work out.
You knew you shouldn't start the car, but you let some ******** get to you.
A lesson learned.
Well, hopefully it will all work out.
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Really? The stories I've read on this forum of dealers scamming people are horrendous.
$1700 alternator replacements, that I did myself in an hour + the price of a rebuilt alternator.
Or the guy who dropped his car off Sat. afternoon, picked it up
Mon. morn, and got billed for something like 20-30 hours, when the dealer was only open a few hours between now and then.
Kid, yer right to not trust the *******s,
and Adidasc230, if you trust your stealer well, good luck.
$1700 alternator replacements, that I did myself in an hour + the price of a rebuilt alternator.
Or the guy who dropped his car off Sat. afternoon, picked it up
Mon. morn, and got billed for something like 20-30 hours, when the dealer was only open a few hours between now and then.
Kid, yer right to not trust the *******s,
and Adidasc230, if you trust your stealer well, good luck.
