amanonfire

An independent shop should be able to replace a tie rod for ~1hr labour, parts + alignment. The total bill should be $250.

If you're going to replace a tie rod and get an alignment, it is worth it to replace both inners and outers on both sides so you don't have to pay for an alignment again when another tie rod goes bad. The parts are cheap ($150 for all parts if I remember correctly) and its minimal extra labour to replace both inner and outer if you're replacing one or the other.

Other than the alignment this is a really easy DIY with minimal tools required, especially if you can rent/borrow an inner tie rod tool.

Peydidy

Guess I just have bad luck then Good thing that its uncommon for it to happen to my 05 though.

Hm I will defiantly look into that thanks!

C230 Sport Coup

So, the problem went away at the 1st dealer?
You might have wanted to wait and see.
One day, driving home in a bad rainstorm, I had a wheel sensor go bad,
it has it's own unique way of telling you, like you can't accelerate and the ESP, ABS lights are lit up.
Then next day it DIED, like the whole dash went blank,
the headlight were on by default and it was stuck in limp mode.
But I was still able to drive it to the shop.

I took it to the local mercedes guy, they couldn't get a reading from the CANBUS,
it was a mess.
So, they left it alone for a couple days.
The problem just went away and never came back.
No idea what caused it, we had a bad rainstorm, maybe water go into something?
Crossing fingers.

Peydidy

Im not sure what you mean by at the first dealer, I only took it to one dealer and thats were it is being repaired currently. But the problem went away then came back and it got to the point that it was always having the problem, your lucky your problem went away though, thats sick, I wish my car problems would always just go away

kirax2

any update?

Peydidy

So got the call from the dealer today saying the car is ready and I went in to pick it up but alot happened the past few days that I will fill you guys up on... So as you can see in the earlier posts I had a brand new 2012 c250 as a rental and I loved it, well something bad happened. I was parked at the mall and I went inside for about an hour or two and when I came outside I see that someone had hit my car and not left a note. I drove home pissed off and when I got home I put my hand under the rear bumper and tryed to push out the fat dent it had, I popped it out but the muffler was super hot and my had hit it and I got a super bad burn on it. I had to go to the Drs and I am having surgery on it tomorrow. Also the fender had popped out but I pushed it back in. There was still some paint that had scratched off. I tried polishing it, wet sand, and touch up paint but it was hopeless. When I returned the car today they said they would contact me tomorrow about the repair costs that they are going to bill to my insurance..now back to the hole EIS. So the repair total came out to somewhere close to 1500, I had a 15% off thing because of my mercedes benz credit card so it came out to close to 1300 for me. They BS'ed this hole thing that I needed to buy at least one new key so I had to do that but at least I got a new key out of it. After I drove the car home I tried taking out the key and it got stuck again. I had never been so mad when I saw the key was stuck after all that head ache. The dealer was already closed when I got home so I will give my SA a call tomorrow and tell him. Man I had the EIS alot. I kinda wish we had those metal keys older cars have so I wouldn't have to deal with all this.

samaritrey

Now thats a bad wekk. Hopefully that figure it out and get you back on the road. As for your hand WTF glad that is being taken care of. This is exactly why I get the insurance for $15 when I get loaner from the dealer so I can say oh well and move on with life.
Hopefully you will be back on the road again very soon.
BTW make sure they pickup up your car and bring you a loaner for free since spending that much money to have the same issue again is total BS.

Peydidy

I am scared to get another loaner haha, but I always make sure to get the insurance but this is how I thought of it, my car was there for 10 days, 15x10=150. My deductible is 150 so basically it came out to being the same. But when renting the car I figured it wouldn't be worth it, I defiantly regret not getting it, but its the past now. It defiantly has been a bad week, but as soon as I get the BBS reps on my sedan later this week it will be a good week. O and on top of all that they ruining my CF wrapped interior and the didn't was the car like they are supposed to, also they broke the gear shifter thing it used to be attached perfectly now its not, glue will fix that, but still.

LILBENZ230

Back in 2005, I took my 2002 Acura TL to the dealer for one of literally hundreds of different problems it was having and was given a brand new 05 Acura RL loaner car. I'm not sure why I was given a $50k RL instead of a $28K TSX but I didn't argue. I got to keep the RL for 14 days. On the drive back to the dealership a rock cracked the windshield. Luckily for me since my TL was having so many problems a district Acura representative was meeting me at the dealer to discuss the replacement of every Bose component in the car. When the dealer tried to charge me for the windshield on the RL he stepped in and refused to let them.

Peydidy

Well thats pretty sick out you got out of that, wish that would have happened to me, Im not complaining though because it still turned out not to bad. I was thinking about it the other day and the insurance for the mercedes was actually 22 a day. 22x10days that I had the car would be 220. My deductible was 150 so really it was still $70 less for me not getting the insurance and using my own insurance.

Peydidy

Got the old EIS back btw

Boom vang

regarding the tie rods, the part is around $56 in Canada so think about half that cost in the US, took me about 1/2hr for each side, there is a great DIY posted somewhere. I never bothered getting an alignment because if you do it carefully you can return it to the original setting providing you are changing parts that are identical (ie OEM).

Majority of the time most of the wear is in the outers (BJ), the inners usually are fine unless you really crunched a curb laterally

Peydidy

wow I had no clue it was so easy and cheep, glad I didn't have the dealer do it, I will defiantly look into when i get a day off work and do it my self. Do you know if I can do an aliment even though I have coilers on my car? I was told I cant but I don't see why not.

LILBENZ230

What authority are you acting defiantly against? I notice you act in defiance quite often according to your posts.

Peydidy

haha what? Im not to sure what you mean

LILBENZ230

I was just giving you a hard time. You were using "defiantly" in place of "definitely" and I was being spelling police. Just messing with you.

So you got the EIS replaced and bought a new key (BS) and then the new key got stuck in the new EIS and your coupe is at the dealership again?

Peydidy

I am still super bad at spelling and grammar haha sorry. and ya but my cars not at the dealer, I got the key out and the day after was my surgery for my hand and I cant drive for a couple days because of it. I was going to have one of my parents take it in for me but my dads all caught up with midterms (he's a professor) and my moms gone on a trip. So the car is just chilling out side my house. I called my SA the day after it happened and they said he wasn't there for the day so I left a message and still haven't herd back, I will give them a call today and see what happens. Btw when the key gets stuck now its not nearly as harsh as it used to be to get out but it takes a bit of time and playing around with to get out.

Saeedg48

or both :/

copper7op

This happened to me 3 or 4 times when I first bought my 03 C230, it wouldnt "let go" of the key. I hit the Lock/Unlock button on the key, and presto, it let the key out. Its done it once in the last 3 months? So I'm not worried

Onericali

The EIS job cost me between 2200 and 2400 I can't remember exactly.

They said I had to get a new key too, because the old key might not be recognized by the new EIS or something, which was bull**** because the old key DOES work.

Anyway, my EIS just needed reinitialized, not replaced. After I replaced it, the same thing happened 6 months later, and I had it reinitialized (for no charge since they guarantee their work for a year) and it hasn't happened again a year later.

Of course, I didn't know that at the time, and let some moron mechanic try to permanently hot wire my car to lock the EIS in the position that allows the key to move, and run a wire from it to a switch where I would start the car.

Big mistake.

Peydidy

With tax myn came out to 1300 including the key and everything. I haven't driven the car once since I got it back, its just been sitting out side my house. I know I am being super stupid not going back to the dealer and figuring it out but I literally haven't had a second in the past few weeks to do anything because of school and work. I got caught up on everything so monday I am going to go figure everything out. But ya the key thing is straight BS, they just try to get as much money as they can out of you thinking were not smart enough to realize there obvious BS.

SeaCoupe

I have it on a good source that EIS systems respond well to being flashed, I imagine this is similar to being reinitialized.

Since you are from SF, I wonder if you had some issues with corrosion on the board. I wanted to open up the board and check.

Peydidy

Do you still want it? I am in SF and you can have it if you'd like

edgarinho10

I feel your pain regarding the EIS. Sounds like you just needed to possibly disconnect the EIS and let it reset...