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Old 07-02-2003, 02:45 PM
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GUYS im not sure the way you guys read that post but he did say that the sport sedans will still have manual trans. Im guessing that goes for BOTH the c230 kompressor and the C320 SPORTS SEDAN MODEL.
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GUYS im not sure the way you guys read that post but he did say that the sport sedans will still have manual trans. Im guessing that goes for BOTH the c230 kompressor and the C320 SPORTS SEDAN MODEL.
You read this correctly. People are lamenting the loss of the manual for the wagons and the non-sport sedans.

I guess dealers complained that they were being stuck with manuals that were difficult to move. I don't know why the dealerships don't just order automatics and leave the manual as a special order option.

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Ok - it is 2:15 and just got back - with lunch in the middle.

Ordered a Silver, C5, CD, and AMG swaybars (getting them for $180 for two bars and bushings). No new '04 pricing yet, but will discount so they make 500 bucks on the car. I stopped and drove the G35 first then off to drive the C320 (auto) coupe. The MB is the car for me. Sure the G35 had all kinds of power, but I just like the C320 much better.

They did check the build schedule and no 6 speeds to be built soon, so mine may be the first for '04. I would like to wait for the new dash, but I like this one fine and the wife will not go for any more time lost on this project.

Now 2:40 - boss (wife) keeps calling

Have a great day!!

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Old 07-02-2003, 03:40 PM
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ahh yes, i remember this time last year i was surrounded by '02 owners (on this board) discussing my order of an '03. i'm jealous. getting a new car is fun.
Old 07-02-2003, 08:32 PM
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Originally posted by finalheaven
GUYS im not sure the way you guys read that post but he did say that the sport sedans will still have manual trans. Im guessing that goes for BOTH the c230 kompressor and the C320 SPORTS SEDAN MODEL.
Yes, I believe that is true. The way I read it is that both sport sedans (230 and 320) and both coupes will still be available in manual. Also, the 320 sport package is an option again, instead of being a separate model. The 230 is still a separate model and comes only in sport trim.
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Yes, I believe that is true. The way I read it is that both sport sedans (230 and 320) and both coupes will still be available in manual. Also, the 320 sport package is an option again, instead of being a separate model. The 230 is still a separate model and comes only in sport trim.
so no more free sport package?
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MattC230K, i dont know if u did not see my reply or if u did not know the answer but i will say it again, do u know if the base price of the C coupe will be raised since it comes with the C7 package now??
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MattC230K, i dont know if u did not see my reply or if u did not know the answer but i will say it again, do u know if the base price of the C coupe will be raised since it comes with the C7 package now??
Both, I didn't see it and I don't know the answer. If I had to guess, they would probably raise it, but probably not by much. And there's always an increase every year anyway.
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so no more free sport package?
That's a good question. I don't know that either. I guess it's always possible that it will be a no cost option, but I doubt it. They will probably start charging for it. However, that's only fair that they do that. It must have been something special they did to try to increase interest for a year, and now they will charge if you want it. However, this applies only to the 320, so you're paying quite a bit for the car anyway, at least 40K.
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Originally posted by Matt230K
That's a good question. I don't know that either. I guess it's always possible that it will be a no cost option, but I doubt it. They will probably start charging for it. However, that's only fair that they do that. It must have been something special they did to try to increase interest for a year, and now they will charge if you want it. However, this applies only to the 320, so you're paying quite a bit for the car anyway, at least 40K.
wait, u cant get the 240 in sport form... right?
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I think the C7 wheels will be stock on the coupe, but not necissarily the whole package...just MO though...

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Well rats.

So, for 2004 there will be no:

o in-dash CD player?
o universal handy interface for phone?
o Sirius sat radio hook up?
o clear lenses for halogen headlamps?
o aero wipers?

Poopers, was kind of getting used to the idea that waiting for '04 model was going to bring in these changes.
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wait, u cant get the 240 in sport form... right?
No, you can't.
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Originally posted by wingspan
Well rats.

So, for 2004 there will be no:

o in-dash CD player?
o universal handy interface for phone?
o Sirius sat radio hook up?
o clear lenses for halogen headlamps?
o aero wipers?

Poopers, was kind of getting used to the idea that waiting for '04 model was going to bring in these changes.
Apparently not. Although some people are saying that there will be some changes mid-year. I guess you'll have to keep waiting.
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they should start putting them 18's dual spoke on the C32 AMG

just a thought since the C-sport pkg is already getting 17s.
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Originally posted by Matt230K
Apparently not. Although some people are saying that there will be some changes mid-year. I guess you'll have to keep waiting.
Matt - thanks for the info anyway. Appreciate your help.

Is there an online version of the brochure you saw anywhere or will we just have to wait till the cars are released from the VPC?

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Is there an online version of the brochure you saw anywhere or will we just have to wait till the cars are released from the VPC?
I doubt there is an online version, but you can check mbusa.com. Or your dealer might also have some by now. I don't think it will be too much longer until the cars are released.
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Thanks Matt...
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As I posted in another thread, we got our first '04 today, a C230WZ. It has few changes. It has the new wipers which are just a strip of rubber with a hard spine that holds it flat. It is only attached to the wiper arm from a central pin. This makes it very easy to change wiper blades, but I'm willing to bet they cost more. This is the same design as many of the higher end MB's now have.

The center console upper tray now opens with buttons on either side and can open to the left or to the right, but not by pulling back. This is similar to the new CLK design. The bottom tray still opens the same way.

And finally, the door lock pins are the same as the ML pins. It is more of a straight pin instead of having the wider top.

That's all I noticed so far.
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Originally posted by Matt230K
As I posted in another thread, we got our first '04 today, a C230WZ. It has few changes. It has the new wipers which are just a strip of rubber with a hard spine that holds it flat. It is only attached to the wiper arm from a central pin. This makes it very easy to change wiper blades, but I'm willing to bet they cost more. This is the same design as many of the higher end MB's now have.

The center console upper tray now opens with buttons on either side and can open to the left or to the right, but not by pulling back. This is similar to the new CLK design. The bottom tray still opens the same way.

And finally, the door lock pins are the same as the ML pins. It is more of a straight pin instead of having the wider top.

That's all I noticed so far.

Thanks for the info.

I dont understand what u mean about the door lock pin though.
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Originally posted by BlackC230Coupe
Thanks for the info.

I dont understand what u mean about the door lock pin though.
for the 01-03 sedan, the door lock pin looks like a T-pin (or whatever that's called, I don't watch golf) you would use for playing golf. The 04 door pin will look like those on the ML.
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matt, you mind to post some pics up so we can understand it better?
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btw, I changed my door pin to the same one as the CLK and the C-coupe. i'll take some picture later
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Originally posted by Matt230K
Apparently not. Although some people are saying that there will be some changes mid-year. I guess you'll have to keep waiting.
Hey guys,

I just saw the thread with pictures for the C55 AMG in the C32 forum. Do you think that is representative of the new C-class face-lift in 2005? It looks really good. As far as I can tell, it has the new clear halogen headlamps. I may be mistaken though. Just wanted to know what you guys think...
I like it. It looks like the CLK headlamps. I would have waited for the change if I had known in advance.
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Originally posted by FrankW
for the 01-03 sedan, the door lock pin looks like a T-pin (or whatever that's called, I don't watch golf) you would use for playing golf. The 04 door pin will look like those on the ML.
Ohh, ok thanks. I diden't realize he was just talking about the sedan. Because i was saying to my self it sounds similar to what i have on my c230 and clk430, but i diden't realize all mercedes were not like that.


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