Alexbenz

Just sold my bimmer, was time to move onto a another project...

Do the 05 c230 have supercharger issues? What are some known issues, remember reading the early 01-04 had issues that 05+ got worked out...need something good on gas since my daily driver Lexus is racking up too many miles...

Here were some cars I'm thinking about...
05 c230
06 Lexus is250
04/05 acura tsx
05 scion TC...

The tc I rather not but its cheap but i rather get the top 3 . Out of them the is250 has the options I want and the tsx next with heated seats which I hear is a option with the c classes.

So how are your w230s???

LILBENZ230

If you're looking for sheer reliability get the IS. Do not get the 2004 TSX, go 2005+ preferably 2006 or newer. The 05 C230K is plenty reliable. Supercharger issues are unheard of on here and gas mileage is very good. Would not go any older than 2005 for the C-class

Alexbenz

That's the thing, the IS has its issues and recalls too...just has heated/cool seats along with navi and rear camera and push start where the c class I'd have to do most of these things to it if its even possible...thing is the is250 with navi goes between 14-20k while the cclass I've seen for 9-15k...tsx is clean but I'd be bored with it but why 05-06? Did it get a facelift?

LILBENZ230

The 04 TSX had some issues. The TSX got a facelift for 2006.

kirax2

i sold my C coupe and got a Lexus GS, I DID NOT MISS THE C at all

why u need 4 doors, IS backseat is ridiculous small, C class make more sense, i am thinking of getting a 08+ Audi TT as second car

Alexbenz

Did you have issues with your c coupe?

Ya the IS baxckseats are small but I dont take people around so I thik its okay my girl and i...even my 5 series backseats were small....i think 4 doors just to put stuff in and need a car with some room...

kirax2

i don't have much issue.. but the new owner does

time for some 3GS with some VIP modular!!!

phister

I'd go an 06 tsx. I like the styling and can't complain about the power the k24 engine makes. I was about to pick one up with the sports package but it got sold before I could get there.

If you want a fun second car go for an s2000 if you want 2 door.

Alexbenz

Clean gs, my buddies got one in that color but stock...

Alexbenz

So its minor tweaks on the tsx? Looks and power I wouldn't care but its price and something that will hold up as a daily driver

phister

Lexus, acura, or mb will all hold up as a dd

kirax2

+1

if you want subtle luxury which doesn't make too much attention, go for Lexus, they hold up the value and they are extremely comfy and reliable toyota engine, and their famous ice cold AC

i would say Acura but their interior is really cheap leather stiff really fast and their look outdate pretty soon, they don't hold up value like lexus but still.. Honda are just as good as any Toyota i was thinking of the new TL if i dind't get my GSh, i can't stand how most Acura are still FWD, sure they got power, but eat your front wheels tires too much even on stockie

Glyn M Ruck

If you want comfort in your daily driver the 2005> C230 might well be the best bet. Depends how big you are. The IS is a fine car just cramped interior for large people like me. Ultra boring & a lame performer in the case of the IS250.

LILBENZ230

The IS350 is a rocket.. but yes the 250 is tame. Not sure about the whole "Ice cold A/C" though, the IS350's A/C is no where near as strong or cold as my C230.

Any of them will hold up fine I'd think.

Glyn M Ruck

Yeah! - The 350 is great but the 250 is very lazy.

phister

I have to admit my gf 09 IS250 has pretty cold ac. I have it set to 70 and only on the first air setting and freezes. I have to turn off the ac button sometimes. But the interior is a bit cramped.

LILBENZ230

Maybe ours needs a re-charge or something. It is major wimpy. The cooled seats are nice, though.

tommy

The manual transmission helps out somewhat with that, if you're so inclined.

There is a reason why Lexi hold their value better than Mercedes. They're boring but reliable.

I like phister's S2000 recommendation best.

Glyn M Ruck

The S2000 is great, especially when revving it's lungs out.

Toyota's are indeed boring, bullet proof & extremely reliable. However today some of that is still trading on the brand. They are not as reliable as they used to be.

Some of Toyota's legendary reliability is a thing of the past. Much of the old success was selling simple ruggedly engineered products. As sophistication & complexity has increased their reliability has gone backwards.

They today wish they could claim Honda V Tec reliability as an example. They can't.

Alexbenz

Those talking about the IS, did you buy them and still have that and the c230?

LILBENZ230

It's not a 250, it's a 350.. not a fair comparison between it and a C230 in terms of really anything.

Peydidy

What are you talking about jordan the only issue I ever had with it was the EIS. Other then that the cars going pretty strong (knock on wood)

Glyn M Ruck

http://editorial.autos.msn.com/blogs...cid=autos_3270

tommy

Hmmm, my parents have an 02 RAV4 and have only had rusty wheels, like one of the commenters said.

Does sound like they gave the wrong torque spec. So it sounds more like a communication problem than a product problem.

Having said that, Toyota and Honda are pretty bad about using thin panels that tend to rust prematurely. That would be my biggest gripe about my CRX, well, after it not automatically growing over time as I have.

phister

so basically the rust issue occurs when someone doesnt do the proper torque and procedure during an alignment.