2002 C230k electrical disaster - Front & rear SAM designation - Pin Outs - d2b & MOST
I would like to diagnose the problem what is the radio fuse number for my 02 c320 ? I would like to give it a shot.
Thank you for any help I can get.



I would like to diagnose the problem what is the radio fuse number for my 02 c320 ? I would like to give it a shot.
Thank you for any help I can get.
The MOST ring on newer cars and the D2B ring on older cars are fiber optic coupled devices that connect audio to the loud speakers. The light pipes must carry the beam into and out of each device making a round trip from the headunit. The devices sound off when polled by the head unit, and must be connected in the order shown in the diagram. If a device is not present, the goesinta must be connected with a suitable splice to the goesouta so the loop is maintained. A car without premium audio, telephone, teleaid, satellite radio, or voice recognition has no use for the fiber optic, but should remain in a loop so the radio does not panic and cry to the front SAM he lost all his friends.
The headunit, be it COMAND or a radio, only talks to the front SAM on a copper wire high speed serial port called CANbus. The car has two cans (not a colorful South American bird) named CAN A and CAN B. CAN B connects the headunit to the front SAM. Also on the same CAN B is the instrument cluster multifunction display (MFD), the steering wheel buttons, and the steering column stalks. If a short in the data lines in the headunit occurs, it will take the bus down, and the SAM will not be able to sort bus traffic into actions.
The MOST ring on newer cars and the D2B ring on older cars are fiber optic coupled devices that connect audio to the loud speakers. The light pipes must carry the beam into and out of each device making a round trip from the headunit. The devices sound off when polled by the head unit, and must be connected in the order shown in the diagram. If a device is not present, the goesinta must be connected with a suitable splice to the goesouta so the loop is maintained. A car without premium audio, telephone, teleaid, satellite radio, or voice recognition has no use for the fiber optic, but should remain in a loop so the radio does not panic and cry to the front SAM he lost all his friends.
The headunit, be it COMAND or a radio, only talks to the front SAM on a copper wire high speed serial port called CANbus. The car has two cans (not a colorful South American bird) named CAN A and CAN B. CAN B connects the headunit to the front SAM. Also on the same CAN B is the instrument cluster multifunction display (MFD), the steering wheel buttons, and the steering column stalks. If a short in the data lines in the headunit occurs, it will take the bus down, and the SAM will not be able to sort bus traffic into actions.

I did pull the radio out to have a look at the connections and it looks like the only fiber lines that are there go to the cd changer. If I replace that radio with an aftermarket one do I need to worry about the fiber lines going to the cd changer?
Also I know you can buy an installation kit with a wire harness will that be all I need to get the amp and all the speakers working?




I did pull the radio out to have a look at the connections and it looks like the only fiber lines that are there go to the cd changer. If I replace that radio with an aftermarket one do I need to worry about the fiber lines going to the cd changer?
Also I know you can buy an installation kit with a wire harness will that be all I need to get the amp and all the speakers working?
A harness and mounting kit should be enough, but you really need an expert in Mercedes sound systems to not muck up the CANbus or the car power distribution system. (They don't work at Best Buy or Sammies House of Stereos)
A harness and mounting kit should be enough, but you really need an expert in Mercedes sound systems to not muck up the CANbus or the car power distribution system. (They don't work at Best Buy or Sammies House of Stereos)
I just wanted to give an update on what I was trying to diagnosis my problem. I did remove the number 64 fuse drove the car for 8 days no issues at all. So I reinstalled the fuse and so far no problems in the last 2 days.
However one of the issues that has been happening to my radio is I will get back in my car to start it up and find the radio off this means the radio had lost power and my bass and treble all audio settings are set back to stock. But the radio stations are unchanged just the audio settings have changed. This is usally a precursor to dash light going on and off and power lose to the windows ETC.
So if you could enlighten me on what the main issue is, that would be super awesome! Thanks in advance guys.
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I had a similar problem but the only symptoms I had was that the instrument cluster died and my headlights would not turn off. I had an aftermarket head unit installed at a shop, but everything was fine after that. My problem started when I removed the factory CD changer.
I took my car to an independent and they reset the ECU (they told me the BUS got tripped). Problem solved, never returned.
I have also read of others having similar problems where in a couple cases it was a dying battery and on a couple other occasions a bad headlight switch.
Just throwing this out to give an idea of the wide variety of issues that can be the source.
Last edited by EuroDriverSD; Sep 4, 2015 at 12:35 PM.
Edit - Just checked the car, turned on the lights and they started to flicker.. Dome light and reading lights don't turn on. Maybe it's just the battery? or I can just start a new thread lol. Sorry guys!
I had a similar problem but the only symptoms I had was that the instrument cluster died and my headlights would not turn off. I had an aftermarket head unit installed at a shop, but everything was fine after that. My problem started when I removed the factory CD changer.
I took my car to an independent and they reset the ECU (they told me the BUS got tripped). Problem solved, never returned.
I have also read of others having similar problems where in a couple cases it was a dying battery and on a couple other occasions a bad headlight switch.
Just throwing this out to give an idea of the wide variety of issues that can be the source.
Last edited by FreshVibes; Sep 4, 2015 at 05:00 PM.
My car battery runs down whenever I used AC the following morning it will not start till I bring another battery to start it.
I've changed the alternator yet it continues.
I ve changed battery yet it continues. Sometimes it will write Battery/Alternator visit workshop.
Am tired don't no what to do.
The car is C320 (203).
Last edited by Amadiephraimo; Apr 26, 2016 at 11:04 AM.





