Finally hit the 330,000kms mark
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2001 w203 C180
Finally hit the 330,000kms mark
Hi Guys
So i finally hit the 330,000kms mark yesterday.
Still going strong though
only 3 major problems encountered thus far.. and which was sorted out
1. Timing chain
2. Oil in harness
3. Catalytic converter
So i finally hit the 330,000kms mark yesterday.
Still going strong though
only 3 major problems encountered thus far.. and which was sorted out
1. Timing chain
2. Oil in harness
3. Catalytic converter
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Congrats! I guess my C280 is just a spring chicken with 104,000kms on the clock. All I had to do so far was replace a leaky oil cooler and the serpentine belt which was soaked in oil. These cars are rock solid, hopefully you can squeeze another 200k out of it.
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Thanks khan. Jip yours is definitely a spring chicken! I’m sure i could squeeze in another 200,000kms! The M111 engines are relatively strong hey
The M111 engines are relatively strong hey
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Congrats! Glad to hear your experience was relatively stealership free!
I have a 04 C230 Sport Sedan and just hit your same mark at 205,000 miles. Unfortunately I have had many more problems with my M271. Fuel pump, alternator, front lower and upper control arms, tie rods, vacuum pump, tensioner, oil leak and coolant leak were all problems I encountered. I currently need a auto tranny flush and a major tuneup ($1500 at stealership). Maybe I will trade in for a new car this week....
Sorry, didn't mean to hijack, just wanted to share my high mileage experience.
I have a 04 C230 Sport Sedan and just hit your same mark at 205,000 miles. Unfortunately I have had many more problems with my M271. Fuel pump, alternator, front lower and upper control arms, tie rods, vacuum pump, tensioner, oil leak and coolant leak were all problems I encountered. I currently need a auto tranny flush and a major tuneup ($1500 at stealership). Maybe I will trade in for a new car this week....
Sorry, didn't mean to hijack, just wanted to share my high mileage experience.
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Real mileage? Only the US and the UK use miles (but UK metric for everything else) , the rest of the world uses metric and Km's
Metric is better in every way as it is easy to make calculations as everything is based on 10, 100 and 1000 (similar to currency), Imperial system is a backwards system that makes no sense.
even working on your car which is metric, if a 10mm socket is not big enough they you reach for a 11 or 12 but if it was in inches (like my TR6) you have to think what is the next progression from 3/8" socket
multiply by .62 and you will get your answer
Metric is better in every way as it is easy to make calculations as everything is based on 10, 100 and 1000 (similar to currency), Imperial system is a backwards system that makes no sense.
even working on your car which is metric, if a 10mm socket is not big enough they you reach for a 11 or 12 but if it was in inches (like my TR6) you have to think what is the next progression from 3/8" socket
multiply by .62 and you will get your answer
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So I guess Liberia and Myanmar are not part of the world? They refuse to capitulate to the Napoleon and the French.
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Why the US refuses to convert when it is all based on decimals on units of 10 who knows?
if the numbers 12" to the foot; and oz can mean both weight and volume yet use 16 and 32 as the unit to the next size, and then you have US oz and gallons which are their own size; Freezing is 32 yet boiling is 212; a yard is based on 3's but a mile is 5280, then I guess it all makes sense
I grew up with Imperial but part way through school our country changed and it makes more sense. I can visualize both, but try measuring with inches is pure frustration and my tape measure is a series of pencil marks when it falls in between hash lines or trying to add 5 5/16" and 7 3/8" and 5 1/4" is nothing but pure hell to come out with the correct length to cut on your saw and we are not even talking about fractionals of fractions
countries that use imperial in black
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Carter should have really just manned up and pushed us completely to metric when he had the chance. 
I just hit 177k miles this week, which is 285k km to the rest of the world that isn't living in the past. New down pipe from the Supersprint headers, new sunroof, and I'm ready for at least 1,000 more (km or miles) before the next breakdown.
I just hit 177k miles this week, which is 285k km to the rest of the world that isn't living in the past.
New down pipe from the Supersprint headers, new sunroof, and I'm ready for at least 1,000 more (km or miles) before the next breakdown.
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Well if you think those are forward thinking countries then you are in good company
Why the US refuses to convert when it is all based on decimals on units of 10 who knows?
if the numbers 12" to the foot; and oz can mean both weight and volume yet use 16 and 32 as the unit to the next size, and then you have US oz and gallons which are their own size; Freezing is 32 yet boiling is 212; a yard is based on 3's but a mile is 5280, then I guess it all makes sense
I grew up with Imperial but part way through school our country changed and it makes more sense. I can visualize both, but try measuring with inches is pure frustration and my tape measure is a series of pencil marks when it falls in between hash lines or trying to add 5 5/16" and 7 3/8" and 5 1/4" is nothing but pure hell to come out with the correct length to cut on your saw and we are not even talking about fractionals of fractions
countries that use imperial in black
Why the US refuses to convert when it is all based on decimals on units of 10 who knows?
if the numbers 12" to the foot; and oz can mean both weight and volume yet use 16 and 32 as the unit to the next size, and then you have US oz and gallons which are their own size; Freezing is 32 yet boiling is 212; a yard is based on 3's but a mile is 5280, then I guess it all makes sense
I grew up with Imperial but part way through school our country changed and it makes more sense. I can visualize both, but try measuring with inches is pure frustration and my tape measure is a series of pencil marks when it falls in between hash lines or trying to add 5 5/16" and 7 3/8" and 5 1/4" is nothing but pure hell to come out with the correct length to cut on your saw and we are not even talking about fractionals of fractions
countries that use imperial in black
I was a bit surprised to say the least...
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So, getting on with the Mercedes matter at hand...
(I'm leaving myself wide open on this one
)
So when did you encounter the issue with the Timing chain?
Since you have a C180 from 2001, I'm assuming it's an M111 2.3L 4 supercharged 4 cylinder correct?
I've just passed 203K miles, but my philosphy at this point is to just replace the entire engine with one from a junkyard when this one finally craps out vs. repairing it...though I am so very curious
how long it would go, it doesn't make financial sense to do so.
(I'm leaving myself wide open on this one
)So when did you encounter the issue with the Timing chain?
Since you have a C180 from 2001, I'm assuming it's an M111 2.3L 4 supercharged 4 cylinder correct?
I've just passed 203K miles, but my philosphy at this point is to just replace the entire engine with one from a junkyard when this one finally craps out vs. repairing it...though I am so very curious
how long it would go, it doesn't make financial sense to do so.
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Apologies for the late response C230
"So when did you encounter the issue with the Timing chain?"
The timing chain/tensioner/guides were changed at around 306,000kms. This was done in 2012.
"Since you have a C180 from 2001, I'm assuming it's an M111 2.3L 4 supercharged 4 cylinder correct?"
The C180 that i have has a M111.921 engine. Its a 1.8lt and pushes out 95kw (129bhp). It’s not a kompressor. These were the very first w203’s launched in South Africa.
"So when did you encounter the issue with the Timing chain?"
The timing chain/tensioner/guides were changed at around 306,000kms. This was done in 2012.
"Since you have a C180 from 2001, I'm assuming it's an M111 2.3L 4 supercharged 4 cylinder correct?"
The C180 that i have has a M111.921 engine. Its a 1.8lt and pushes out 95kw (129bhp). It’s not a kompressor. These were the very first w203’s launched in South Africa.
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[QUOTE=selwyng;5761503]Apologies for the late response C230
"So when did you encounter the issue with the Timing chain?"
The timing chain/tensioner/guides were changed at around 306,000kms. This was done in 2012.
How could you tell you had a problem with the chain guides/tensioner - noise? Are the guides on the M111 made of plastic?
My car's got 373,xxx km and I'm a bit paranoid about the condition of the chain guides/tensioner. If it's anything like the 1.8l BMW M42 engine, you won't get much advanced warning that the chain guides are bad...till the engine blows anyway.
"So when did you encounter the issue with the Timing chain?"
The timing chain/tensioner/guides were changed at around 306,000kms. This was done in 2012.
How could you tell you had a problem with the chain guides/tensioner - noise? Are the guides on the M111 made of plastic?
My car's got 373,xxx km and I'm a bit paranoid about the condition of the chain guides/tensioner. If it's anything like the 1.8l BMW M42 engine, you won't get much advanced warning that the chain guides are bad...till the engine blows anyway.
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I want to know why the metric fanboys have not tackled time. C'mon 100 seconds to the minute, 100 minutes to the hour, 100 hours in a day, 100 days in a month, and 100 months in a year.
Americans make a lot of quality equipment using Imperial Measurements, like Boeing airplanes. People say "If it ain't Boeing, I ain't goin'.
Europe makes airplanes too. Metric marvels. Pilots and passengers call 'em "Scarebus."
In case you are not sure, I write all this tongue in cheek. There is no controversy, Imperial measurements are here to stay.
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America is awake. That's why machine tools use Acme lead screws, five turns to the inch. My own industry uses one of the longest lasting world wide standards. Film is 35mm wide. Edison allowed that to get the French onboard with a common standard. What he did not tell them was that the distance between the perforations is exactly one inch.
I want to know why the metric fanboys have not tackled time. C'mon 100 seconds to the minute, 100 minutes to the hour, 100 hours in a day, 100 days in a month, and 100 months in a year.
Americans make a lot of quality equipment using Imperial Measurements, like Boeing airplanes. People say "If it ain't Boeing, I ain't goin'.
Europe makes airplanes too. Metric marvels. Pilots and passengers call 'em "Scarebus."
In case you are not sure, I write all this tongue in cheek. There is no controversy, Imperial measurements are here to stay.:rolf:
I want to know why the metric fanboys have not tackled time. C'mon 100 seconds to the minute, 100 minutes to the hour, 100 hours in a day, 100 days in a month, and 100 months in a year.
Americans make a lot of quality equipment using Imperial Measurements, like Boeing airplanes. People say "If it ain't Boeing, I ain't goin'.
Europe makes airplanes too. Metric marvels. Pilots and passengers call 'em "Scarebus."
In case you are not sure, I write all this tongue in cheek. There is no controversy, Imperial measurements are here to stay.:rolf:
Whenever seeing a long C around town I wonder if it's yours. :D
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America is awake. That's why machine tools use Acme lead screws, five turns to the inch. My own industry uses one of the longest lasting world wide standards. Film is 35mm wide. Edison allowed that to get the French onboard with a common standard. What he did not tell them was that the distance between the perforations is exactly one inch.
I want to know why the metric fanboys have not tackled time. C'mon 100 seconds to the minute, 100 minutes to the hour, 100 hours in a day, 100 days in a month, and 100 months in a year.
Americans make a lot of quality equipment using Imperial Measurements, like Boeing airplanes. People say "If it ain't Boeing, I ain't goin'.
Europe makes airplanes too. Metric marvels. Pilots and passengers call 'em "Scarebus."
In case you are not sure, I write all this tongue in cheek. There is no controversy, Imperial measurements are here to stay.
I want to know why the metric fanboys have not tackled time. C'mon 100 seconds to the minute, 100 minutes to the hour, 100 hours in a day, 100 days in a month, and 100 months in a year.
Americans make a lot of quality equipment using Imperial Measurements, like Boeing airplanes. People say "If it ain't Boeing, I ain't goin'.
Europe makes airplanes too. Metric marvels. Pilots and passengers call 'em "Scarebus."
In case you are not sure, I write all this tongue in cheek. There is no controversy, Imperial measurements are here to stay.
The oil industry has tried hard to metricate in the upstream & continues to do so. A friend is the technical manager for a large producer of valves & other components for the oil industry in the UK. They were recently bought out by another well known US producer who immediately suggested supply of certain valve sizes from their US production. This would provide sensible rationalisation & synergy savings. Mike pointed out to them that they would have to metricate all threads & valve sizes for compatibility with anything in the North Sea oil industry. This left them dumfounded & stuck with a whole lot of incompatible inventory that they sent to the UK prior to consulting with Mike.
Boeing aircraft are a lot more metricated than you might think ~ especially the Dreamliner. It just makes sense to have a single global system.
The Oil industry uses SAP globally for accounting & ERP systems etc. which are needless to say metricated being German. The amusing thing is that we have to run a final module to convert everything to barrels so that the management reporting is understood by some oldtimers.
Having US Gallons & Barrels, Imperial Gallons & litres/kilograms in the same system does not make any sense at all.
Some US enterprises are certainly hindered commercially when refusing to play in a globally metricated marketplace. They can be a stuborn as they like. They simply can't play without change. Hard as that may be for some to digest.
The best thing SA ever did was to cast off the imperial system in the early 60's & metricate.
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anyone that works on a car or does mechanical work knows what a PIA the imperial system is. Perhaps if the denominator was a constant then it would be easier but the current progression of quarters, eighths, sixteenths etc. I always have to think what is the next size up from 3/8.
It always amazes me that the stubborn Americans that defend this archaic system along with Liberia and Myanmar saying that it is the rest of the world that is out of step. What couldn't be easier than everything divisible by 10.
When I am shopping for meat or produce and it is $20/kg ($2/100gm) and I want 300gm it is $6 but if it is $9/lb and I want 10oz how much is it? Not so easier or quick to figure out
Or:
If you go to buy carpeting, and you need 100 square feet, the carpet costs $10 per square yard, could you, even given these simple numbers, ever figure out how much you'll pay? Which is more, 2 quarts, 5 pints or 36 fl oz? How many pints are in a gallon? How many pounds are 200 ounces? Which drill is the larger - the 13/64, the 1/4 or the 5/32? Not so easy or quick to figure out, and if someone is talking ounces are they talking weight or volume?
There is one example that inches and metric co-habitate, just look at your tires, now there is a odd measurement
And finally nothing could be more American than Coca-Cola, but when they reach for that large bottle in the store it is a 2L bottle or that bottle of California wine that is sold in 750ml or 1.5L
It always amazes me that the stubborn Americans that defend this archaic system along with Liberia and Myanmar saying that it is the rest of the world that is out of step. What couldn't be easier than everything divisible by 10.
When I am shopping for meat or produce and it is $20/kg ($2/100gm) and I want 300gm it is $6 but if it is $9/lb and I want 10oz how much is it? Not so easier or quick to figure out
Or:
If you go to buy carpeting, and you need 100 square feet, the carpet costs $10 per square yard, could you, even given these simple numbers, ever figure out how much you'll pay? Which is more, 2 quarts, 5 pints or 36 fl oz? How many pints are in a gallon? How many pounds are 200 ounces? Which drill is the larger - the 13/64, the 1/4 or the 5/32? Not so easy or quick to figure out, and if someone is talking ounces are they talking weight or volume?
There is one example that inches and metric co-habitate, just look at your tires, now there is a odd measurement
And finally nothing could be more American than Coca-Cola, but when they reach for that large bottle in the store it is a 2L bottle or that bottle of California wine that is sold in 750ml or 1.5L
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Yes, it's strange. The US tries to cast off most of it's colonial heritage but not some weights & measures.
Then you have the next problem of skinny US Gallons versus "fat" Imperial Gallons to deal with. While I understand the history the hangover from the past makes no logical sense.
Take the petroleum industry with which I'm accustomed. First we had the 44 Gallon drum, then the 209.12 litre drum, then the 210 litre drum & now the industry has rationalised to the 200 litre drum much to the relief of packaging suppliers, pallet manufacturers, shippers etc. etc ad nauseum.
Then you have the next problem of skinny US Gallons versus "fat" Imperial Gallons to deal with. While I understand the history the hangover from the past makes no logical sense.
Take the petroleum industry with which I'm accustomed. First we had the 44 Gallon drum, then the 209.12 litre drum, then the 210 litre drum & now the industry has rationalised to the 200 litre drum much to the relief of packaging suppliers, pallet manufacturers, shippers etc. etc ad nauseum.
