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Old Jan 17, 2004 | 03:15 PM
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Does Mercedes offer remote start for the C-Class? I work for Best buy, but all of the remote start systems that we carry do not work with the infared key... any ideas... prices? thanks
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Old Jan 17, 2004 | 03:26 PM
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Good Luck!

I looked for a remote start about 7 months ago and had no luck. Dealer told me no way. Then I went to my custom audio shop and he told me the only way to do it was to swap out the ignition. Forget it!!! Not worth the trouble or expense.

If you find a better solution let me know.
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Old Jan 17, 2004 | 04:42 PM
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it is not possible at all since the car requires the Infrared key to start. Permenantly installing this into the car would defeat the whole purpose of an immobilizer which is already installed into the car.
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Old Jan 17, 2004 | 04:54 PM
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Sunman are you indian? If so, so am i, guju actually!

Back to the question, i did ask about the remote start for my CLK430 and they said it could not be done due to the infarred system in the ignition, now for older models it can be done (keys with the switchblade type mechanism), and i did have it done to my 2002 ML320, i took it to this local and reputable audio shop, i wouldnt take my car to a place like Best Buy to get it done...
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Old Jan 17, 2004 | 10:29 PM
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yes guju is correct! And yes, the older key type benz's are easy to do.
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Old Jan 18, 2004 | 11:28 AM
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You would need to buy a spare key and mount it as close as possible to the ignition switch but behind the dash. This would make the car think the key was in the ignition but not turned to the on or start positions. Also this would turn on and leave on anything that turns on when the key is just stuck in the ignition and most likely cuase a drain on the electrical system as well as bypassing all security features and make the car easiser to steal. But it would allow the engine to start and idle. I have never done this but it has been talked about about a dozen times on this and other forums.
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Old Jan 18, 2004 | 12:21 PM
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Originally posted by mctwin2kman
You would need to buy a spare key and mount it as close as possible to the ignition switch but behind the dash. This would make the car think the key was in the ignition but not turned to the on or start positions. Also this would turn on and leave on anything that turns on when the key is just stuck in the ignition and most likely cuase a drain on the electrical system as well as bypassing all security features and make the car easiser to steal. But it would allow the engine to start and idle. I have never done this but it has been talked about about a dozen times on this and other forums.
Assume for a moment that you are not using the remote start.

What kind of interference would be created when you now insert YOUR key in the ignition to start the car? Would there be a similar problem as has been identified with the keyless go feature found on the other models?
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Old Jan 18, 2004 | 02:00 PM
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It can be done, i've seen it done on an '02 Sedan. You lose a key, but it can be done.

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Old Jan 18, 2004 | 02:05 PM
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It can be done, i've seen it done on an '02 Sedan. You lose a key, but it can be done.

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Lose a key? how does it work? please explain...
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Old Jan 18, 2004 | 02:13 PM
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Lose a key? how does it work? please explain...
There is a bypass box that must be installed. The key is placed in the box and the car thinks the key is in the ignition.

I had to do the same thing for my Jaguar.

I would do it with my car but I have a stick and I like to keep the car in gear.

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Old Jan 18, 2004 | 02:27 PM
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Originally posted by tifosiv122
There is a bypass box that must be installed. The key is placed in the box and the car thinks the key is in the ignition.

I had to do the same thing for my Jaguar.

I would do it with my car but I have a stick and I like to keep the car in gear.

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So then wouldnt that defeat the purpose of having infared keys? cant someone start the car at that point?
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Old Jan 18, 2004 | 02:36 PM
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Originally posted by NiTr0u5oXiDe
So then wouldnt that defeat the purpose of having infared keys? cant someone start the car at that point?
Yeah you can start the car. In order for the car to move you need to actually insert a key and turn it. Then depress the brake. If you do anything else to the car or even shake the car hard it will shut right down. It's not going to be like MBs keyless go where you never need to insert a key...you still do in order to move the car.

IF somone breaks into your car and finds the hidden box, opens it up...they have a key to your ride....something to think about which is why the box is supposed to be hidden and sealed very well.

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Old Jan 18, 2004 | 02:45 PM
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Yeah you can start the car. In order for the car to move you need to actually insert a key and turn it. Then depress the brake. If you do anything else to the car or even shake the car hard it will shut right down. It's not going to be like MBs keyless go where you never need to insert a key...you still do in order to move the car.

IF somone breaks into your car and finds the hidden box, opens it up...they have a key to your ride....something to think about which is why the box is supposed to be hidden and sealed very well.

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Sorry about all the questions... but how close to the actual sensor does the key have to be? and once you turn the car on... you have to actually insert another set of keys to move the car?!? sorry if i sound dumb... but im so lost on how that would work...
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Old Jan 18, 2004 | 03:06 PM
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Originally posted by NiTr0u5oXiDe
Sorry about all the questions... but how close to the actual sensor does the key have to be? and once you turn the car on... you have to actually insert another set of keys to move the car?!? sorry if i sound dumb... but im so lost on how that would work...
Typically its mounted inside the dash.

1. You remote start - car starts, still locked.
2. Unlock car
3. Get in
4. insert key
5. turn key to start position
6. hit brake pedal
7. Drive

If anything happens to the car without the key being in (brake window, shake car, etc...) the car shuts. If you forget to turn the key and hit the brake, the car will shut.

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Old Jan 18, 2004 | 03:11 PM
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thanks for the info... sorry about all the questions
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Old Jan 18, 2004 | 03:23 PM
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thanks for the info... sorry about all the questions
No problem, good luck. A lot of installers just say its not possible because they are lazy or just really don't know how.

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Old Jan 18, 2004 | 07:46 PM
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it can be done, i have seen it on the w209 clk by a company called magicar, they need the car for 3 days they virtualy strip it tapping into the ecu and reprograming u would loose a key but it is a neat toy i had it on my civic, however it would cost about £1000-£1300, which is about $2000-2300 bucks.

There system was a pager design system with car pic to show motion around car zone araming and set off plus car start
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it can be done, i have seen it on the w209 clk by a company called magicar, they need the car for 3 days they virtualy strip it tapping into the ecu and reprograming u would loose a key but it is a neat toy i had it on my civic, however it would cost about £1000-£1300, which is about $2000-2300 bucks.

There system was a pager design system with car pic to show motion around car zone araming and set off plus car start
They do it by me for under $250 USD installed and they need 1 1/2 hours with the car...but it's usually done within 45-1 hour.

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Old Jan 19, 2004 | 03:52 AM
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What make is the alarm i would be well up for that sort of pricing maybe i can find someone in the uk who does this box to allow it to autostart, any ideas or company that produce the box?

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They do it by me for under $250 USD installed and they need 1 1/2 hours with the car...but it's usually done within 45-1 hour.

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Who? The way you describe it sound sinteresting and well worth it in the -45C weather we've had lately... I'm sure most of the shops in my city wouldn't be knowledgable enough to do this, so pointing to some websites where we could get info would be a great help, thanks.
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What make is the alarm i would be well up for that sort of pricing maybe i can find someone in the uk who does this box to allow it to autostart, any ideas or company that produce the box?

thanks

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DEI - Directed Electronics. They make Viper and other brand alarms and remote starts.

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Who? The way you describe it sound sinteresting and well worth it in the -45C weather we've had lately... I'm sure most of the shops in my city wouldn't be knowledgable enough to do this, so pointing to some websites where we could get info would be a great help, thanks.
Sorry it's a local shop, they don't have a website.

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Thanks Eric i'll look into it, i belive viper has bought out clifford and i have a friend at clifford so ill get him to look into it for me
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This is why I got the heated seats. Start the car and set them to high and within about 2 minutes your *** is nice and toasty, as well as you lower back.... Now for my 190E a remote start would be so much more helpful, those darn MB Tex or whatever those were seats are cold as hell in the morning.....

As for the C, it is not so bad as it is garaged all night....
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Originally posted by mctwin2kman
This is why I got the heated seats. Start the car and set them to high and within about 2 minutes your *** is nice and toasty, as well as you lower back.... Now for my 190E a remote start would be so much more helpful, those darn MB Tex or whatever those were seats are cold as hell in the morning.....

As for the C, it is not so bad as it is garaged all night....
Does your 190E turn over quickly? If the car has a hard time starting a remote start won't work. They usually crank for 5 seconds. I had issues with my older cars in the winter because it just wouldn't start sometimes.

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