Command Vs. Pioneer Navigation
02-12-2004, 03:25 PM
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Command Vs. Pioneer Navigation
I know this has been discussed here before, I am now seriously considering getting an aftermarket GPS/ Navigation system - may be a Pioneer AVIC 80DVD. I have done some research on all the options and I think it will be a good fit for me. I have some questions:
1.) Can I keep my stock radio and CD changer and just add this?
2.) Does anyone know of a place in LA area that can do a clean install?
3.) How much should I expect to pay? I have seen some on eBay for $1200-$1400.
Thanks, VK
1.) Can I keep my stock radio and CD changer and just add this?
2.) Does anyone know of a place in LA area that can do a clean install?
3.) How much should I expect to pay? I have seen some on eBay for $1200-$1400.
Thanks, VK
02-12-2004, 03:44 PM
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I wouldn't buy from ebay...i'd only use a Pioneer dealer.
Not sure about the stock radio and changer...I pulled both and did an entire pioneer setup.
My setup:
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Not sure about the stock radio and changer...I pulled both and did an entire pioneer setup.
My setup:
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02-12-2004, 06:21 PM
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Originally posted by tifosiv122
I wouldn't buy from ebay...i'd only use a Pioneer dealer.
Not sure about the stock radio and changer...I pulled both and did an entire pioneer setup.
My setup:
Erik
I wouldn't buy from ebay...i'd only use a Pioneer dealer.
Not sure about the stock radio and changer...I pulled both and did an entire pioneer setup.
My setup:
Erik
02-12-2004, 09:53 PM
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wow u have an outlet in your C? nice plug a blow dryer in there!!! ahahha
wow u have an outlet in your C? nice plug a blow dryer in there!!! ahahha
It's one of my favorite things that I added...
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02-13-2004, 02:03 AM
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You'll be lucky to even get it for 1, 900. Oh btw, avic-80 is only 1 component. The entire system comes in 2 components: sys-910dvd
I'm looking to upgrade my COMAND to a similar setup as tifo...but just haven't got the finances yet. If it was that cheap, everyone would be getting one.
You can risk getting it through eBay, might be the lucky few who gets one without a defect/fault or anything of that nature. good luck!
damn, i need tengo dinero!
I'm looking to upgrade my COMAND to a similar setup as tifo...but just haven't got the finances yet. If it was that cheap, everyone would be getting one.
You can risk getting it through eBay, might be the lucky few who gets one without a defect/fault or anything of that nature. good luck!
damn, i need tengo dinero!
02-13-2004, 04:15 AM
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You'll be lucky to even get it for 1, 900. Oh btw, avic-80 is only 1 component. The entire system comes in 2 components: sys-910dvd
I'm looking to upgrade my COMAND to a similar setup as tifo...but just haven't got the finances yet. If it was that cheap, everyone would be getting one.
You can risk getting it through eBay, might be the lucky few who gets one without a defect/fault or anything of that nature. good luck!
damn, i need tengo dinero!
You'll be lucky to even get it for 1, 900. Oh btw, avic-80 is only 1 component. The entire system comes in 2 components: sys-910dvd
I'm looking to upgrade my COMAND to a similar setup as tifo...but just haven't got the finances yet. If it was that cheap, everyone would be getting one.
You can risk getting it through eBay, might be the lucky few who gets one without a defect/fault or anything of that nature. good luck!
damn, i need tengo dinero!
02-13-2004, 07:32 AM
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Originally posted by mbphreak
You'll be lucky to even get it for 1, 900. Oh btw, avic-80 is only 1 component. The entire system comes in 2 components: sys-910dvd
You'll be lucky to even get it for 1, 900. Oh btw, avic-80 is only 1 component. The entire system comes in 2 components: sys-910dvd
AVIC - Navi = Now $1,800 - When I bought $2,500
AVM - Brain = $810
AVX-P7300DVD - Screen = $1,850
Then I added XM & 6-Disc CD changer.
The newer 'touch' screens do not require a brain. I initially didn't get a touch screen because I didn't want to downgrade to a 6.5 and I didn't want to 'touch' my screen...getting prints all over my video is annoying. Pioneer has 2 new screens coming out soon.
1. Touch screen with buttons you can feel...the dynamically changing buttons actually have texture on the screen...and when no buttons are there the screen is flat...not sure how they do it, but its cool.
2. Navi/Screen/DVD all in one Din. This will also include G-Tech like functions that allow a screen of custom gauges for G-Force, pitch, roll, etc....
My next upgrade is when #2 comes out...the gauges looked too cool.
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02-13-2004, 07:39 AM
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The new one from pioneer is the AVIC-N1
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pn...704201,00.html
Soooo cool.
Erik
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pn...704201,00.html
The revolutionary AVIC-N1 offers simple touch panel or voice command letting consumers simultaneously access Memory Navigation information (route guidance, electronic mapping, points of interests, etc.), entertainment (audio entertainment for front seat passengers, DVD-video entertainment for rear seat passengers) and vehicle dynamics (speed, acceleration, lateral G-Force, angular velocity, slope, angle, etc.).
For the first time consumers can obtain route guidance information, listen to AM/FM/XM satellite radio, play DVD movies for rear passengers and monitor the performance of the vehicle, all at the same time. Users can quickly switch views between different sources available - navigation, vehicle dynamics and DVD video. Pioneer’s AVIC-N1 is the most advanced in-car navigation system in the market.
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I used to have a Pioneer dvd deck and also a mp3 deck on my car. I don't think they are really good. The pictures is okay...but if u want quality, you should think about Alpine. Alpine screen have the highest pixels.
02-13-2004, 01:47 PM
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I used to have a Pioneer dvd deck and also a mp3 deck on my car. I don't think they are really good. The pictures is okay...but if u want quality, you should think about Alpine. Alpine screen have the highest pixels.
I used to have a Pioneer dvd deck and also a mp3 deck on my car. I don't think they are really good. The pictures is okay...but if u want quality, you should think about Alpine. Alpine screen have the highest pixels.
Pixels aren't everything, and the screen isn't that close to my face that I ever see pixels when I watch movies.
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02-13-2004, 02:12 PM
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Originally posted by tifosiv122
I completely disagree...I never liked Alpines offerings. Although they are generally cheaper then Pioneer, I always thought they also felt cheaper.
Pixels aren't everything, and the screen isn't that close to my face that I ever see pixels when I watch movies.
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I completely disagree...I never liked Alpines offerings. Although they are generally cheaper then Pioneer, I always thought they also felt cheaper.
Pixels aren't everything, and the screen isn't that close to my face that I ever see pixels when I watch movies.
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02-13-2004, 03:47 PM
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Originally posted by LorinserCClass
Alpine is not cheaper it is considered the best though.
Alpine is not cheaper it is considered the best though.
Alpine: IVA-D900 - $2,300
Pioneer: AVH-P7500DVD - $2,700
or if you don't want the touch screen:
Pioneer: AVH-P7490DVD - $2,800
All 7" screens
All in dash DVD
Who's cheaper again?
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02-13-2004, 05:31 PM
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LorinserCClass, Are you doing Alpine for your call? Is that why you are selling Command?
tifosiv122, I think the dealers will discount these from MSRP. I am looking to spend about $1800 total on all this.
tifosiv122, I think the dealers will discount these from MSRP. I am looking to spend about $1800 total on all this.
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Originally posted by vkaushal
LorinserCClass, Are you doing Alpine for your call? Is that why you are selling Command?
tifosiv122, I think the dealers will discount these from MSRP. I am looking to spend about $1800 total on all this.
LorinserCClass, Are you doing Alpine for your call? Is that why you are selling Command?
tifosiv122, I think the dealers will discount these from MSRP. I am looking to spend about $1800 total on all this.
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Originally posted by vkaushal
LorinserCClass, Are you doing Alpine for your call? Is that why you are selling Command?
tifosiv122, I think the dealers will discount these from MSRP. I am looking to spend about $1800 total on all this.
LorinserCClass, Are you doing Alpine for your call? Is that why you are selling Command?
tifosiv122, I think the dealers will discount these from MSRP. I am looking to spend about $1800 total on all this.
02-13-2004, 06:10 PM
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Originally posted by vkaushal
LorinserCClass, Are you doing Alpine for your call? Is that why you are selling Command?
tifosiv122, I think the dealers will discount these from MSRP. I am looking to spend about $1800 total on all this.
LorinserCClass, Are you doing Alpine for your call? Is that why you are selling Command?
tifosiv122, I think the dealers will discount these from MSRP. I am looking to spend about $1800 total on all this.
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02-13-2004, 06:14 PM
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Originally posted by vkaushal
LorinserCClass, Are you doing Alpine for your call? Is that why you are selling Command?
tifosiv122, I think the dealers will discount these from MSRP. I am looking to spend about $1800 total on all this.
LorinserCClass, Are you doing Alpine for your call? Is that why you are selling Command?
tifosiv122, I think the dealers will discount these from MSRP. I am looking to spend about $1800 total on all this.
tifo:ok ok you know your retail prices better than me
02-13-2004, 06:23 PM
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Originally posted by LorinserCClass
tifo:ok ok you know your retail prices better than me
tifo:ok ok you know your retail prices better than me
For $1,800 you can prob. go with a used system...but then you are taking a much greater risk then just a new purchase off of Ebay.
Prices have come down significantly...in my Navi alone the retail price from Oct. 2002 to Jan 2004 dropped $700 and it's the identical system.
The one thing I like about Pioneer is that their Navi that came out around 2000 is identical to the one they sell in 2004 and they sell an update DVD for $380 that makes your original unit identical to the newest one...so your not spending the money over and over again. I am not just talking about new maps...this is a full update:
Touch screen
Maps
GUI
Map Speed
Firmware Upgrade
I think thats great...they could just sell the maps for that price and tell people to buy a whole new system...but they dont.
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Erik, Thanks for all the info!
LorinserCClass - What do u think of this one?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3076362887
LorinserCClass - What do u think of this one?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3076362887
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Originally posted by vkaushal
Erik, Thanks for all the info!
LorinserCClass - What do u think of this one?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3076362887
Erik, Thanks for all the info!
LorinserCClass - What do u think of this one?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3076362887
02-13-2004, 06:37 PM
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Originally posted by vkaushal
Erik, Thanks for all the info!
LorinserCClass - What do u think of this one?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3076362887
Erik, Thanks for all the info!
LorinserCClass - What do u think of this one?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3076362887
Link is fine...remove one set of http://
Erik
