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Old Dec 11, 2015 | 01:28 PM
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No start issue

I have a 2005 C230K that has the rough idle then stall. I pulled the codes and and the usual suspects popped up. Said i needed the hose that dries, air oil separator etc. and that a coil was non op.

I got up the next day and the car will crank but not start. I crank it and get a pop and then a quiet crank as if i an not getting spark.
Here is what I have done so far.

Verified spark on all 4 coils.
Verified I had good batt voltage (just because)
Checked all four plugs, they all look good and have correct gap.
Cleaned the plugs on the cam sensors.

I have the parts for the Air/oil sep and the crank case vent hose etc, but have not done the work yet as it wont start.

Any thoughts on some direction?? Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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Old Dec 11, 2015 | 11:54 PM
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check fuel pressure. check compression.
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Old Dec 12, 2015 | 04:32 AM
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Check valve timing
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Old Dec 12, 2015 | 07:05 AM
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compression is a great and easy place to start. I've seen the intake cam gear teeth wear and have had a chain jump before.
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Old Dec 13, 2015 | 08:52 AM
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Thanks for the replies! Compression test it is. Here are the results. I checked the the first cylinder and it registered a big zip! To verify the gauge was working I tried it in my SBC and it worked just fine. Tried cylinder number 2 and..... A big zip, zero, zilch.

An interesting observation, it cranks but it does not sound like a whole lot going on. If I did not see the belt spinning I would swear that the only thing spinning was the starter.

Thanks everyone. Thoughts?
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Old Dec 13, 2015 | 08:59 AM
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Valves open and/or not moving or head gasket failure.

Better hope it is a false reading.
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Old Dec 13, 2015 | 04:33 PM
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Nothing to think about. Remove cyl head cover and check valve timing
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Old Dec 13, 2015 | 08:17 PM
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Thanks for the responses! Does anyone know where to get the tech info on that job? The how too, what to look for and what else to replace while I have it open?
I really appreciate the input. Mercedes is new to me outside of general maintenance.
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Old Dec 16, 2015 | 09:27 PM
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Ok, challenge accepted. How about parts suppliers that will have these parts. Checked some i use for my other cars but do nit see them available. Found some Victor Reinz gaskets etc. Thanks! I am just going to go ahead an pull it apart and replace anything that seems worn.
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Old Dec 17, 2015 | 12:31 PM
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Don't just pull it apart. Check the position of the camshafts first. If they out then it needs a new chain and tensioner and possibly gears
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Old Dec 18, 2015 | 05:05 PM
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Russell, thanks. I would check all of that to see if it was off before dis assembly so I know if any potential damage was done to the valves etc. si I know what I am in for before sending the head for a refurbish. I may just have them rebuild it anyway. When in Rome! I am hoping for very low wear on the gears!
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If the head is ok. ie no bent valves I would rather spend the money on new gears
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