Hi Everyone,

How my problems began...

May 2003, I orderded a set of MOVEN replicas from Sander at the Wheel Supply in 19x8.5 and 19x9.5 for my C32.
the fronts would not clear the calipers without a spacer. After various attempts of using spacers to fit the rims, I couldnt get past all the shimmy and vibrations associated with driving the car. This went on for months. eventually in Feb 04 I asked Sander if he could buy back the rims and get me something else. He gave me credit towards the purchase of new rims.
I decided to go with custom built Iforged rims, full polish "Sprint" design in 19x8.5 and 19x9.5. I thought customs rims would cause no problems with fitment on my C32. On April 16th 2004, my rims arrived. WELL TO MY SURPRISE, I couldn't put them on. They need hub-centric rings! huh? I thought these were custom built rims? well, Sander was on vacation, and I live in Connecticut. needless to say, I was quite upset.

My buddies at the shop where Im having my rims installed, called Iforged.
They spoke to Vince at Iforged. They asked him for hubcentric rings and if he could ship them to us. Vince says "Iforged never built these rims for a C32. and he doesn't have rings for them". Now Im confused. I call Vince, and he reitterates that Iforged never built these rims for my car. He called them "grey market" rims. He then said they were built for an E class. And the specs are actually 19x8.5 and 19X10! and if I got rings for them, the rims wouldnt work because the offsets are wrong for the rears, though I might get away working with the fronts. Vince also said he doesnt deal with The Wheel Supply. My Confusion gets worse every minute.So... I wait for Sander to get back from vacation and try to get this all cleared up.

Sander tells me that they are real iforged rims, and that someone messed up. He did purchase them from INTRO rims,(which is iforged or a subsidary?) He said the front rims will definitely work with hubcentric rings. As for the rears I have to ship them back to Sander so he can inspect them and see if they truly are 19x10 ( I think they are. the lip is huge). and if he can have them fixed to fit my car. or have new ones built from scratch. (but Iforged doesnt deal with TWS?).

So it is now the 28th of April, two weeks that Ive been sitting on these rims. I just have this feeling in my gut that these wheels just wont' work for my car. Go figure, replicas dont work. and now custom rims dont work.

Guys... i dont know what to do? I guess I'll let Sander handle this. From all the comments I read on this forum, he sounds like a good guy. I just want rims that work!!!!!!! I wish I lived in Cali, that would make this easier too. at least I could visit TWS or Iforged and find out what is really going on...

 

19x8s wouldn't clear the calipur?

I have 18x8s with the C230 X-Drilled and no issues...I have a feeling you didn't get Movens either because that sounds a bit odd.

Erik

 

19*8 will JUST clear the calipers....at least in my case....

well....sander should have a satisfactory answer for you..cheer up!

 

I really havent heard too much bad things about TWS honestly...but I think maybe they offered you someone else's rims that were previously ordered from Vince. I remember reading something in one of the forums about a So Cal E Class that was going to get I forged sprints-maybe there is a correlation there Either way let me know if Sander takes 'em back-I might be interested if the price is good

 

IS the C32 and the 2004 Sport Rotors that much different in size?

Won't the C7's clear the C32 rotors and they are only 17x8?

Erik

 

You have a point Erik. I think it might have something to do with the curve of the rim. For instance I had 18x8.5 before and it wouldnt clear my old C32 brakes. I needed a 7mm(I think) spacer.

 

LorinserCclass.

I think you are right. These are definitely made for a E-class. and probably the exact one for the one you heard about. Oh well, somehow they are mine now. And either TWS will find a way to make them fit, or I will be looking for new rims and waiting another 4 to 6 weeks. ****, Ive been waiting a year for something to work.

 

let me think..i have like 19* 9 ? in front??...and it JUST cleared the calipers...with less than 2mm between them......also..i think the design of the rim play a huge part

 

I am sure they are

 

The design must play a part...the C32 rims are 17s and the C7 which are also 17s fit. Both are 17x7.5s.

Erik

 

I know this easy to say but hard to take but "Don't feel bad." I had the same thing happen to me on my 2000 W210. I ordered HRE's and after six weeks of waiting, it took all of 30 minutes for the shop to tell me the rear wheels were hitting the brakes. I had to send them back and its been two weeks and I'm still waiting for my two wheels. I called HRE and they told me maybe next week I might get them. It sucks but what can we do.

You figure you order custom wheels so you don't have fitment problems. Sometimes I feel like some of these manufacturers don't care once they get you money. They got me. All Ican do is wait now.

 

I decided to return the rims to Sander at TWS. well, guess what? He informs me that he just lost a partner, and there is a possiblility of TWS going out of business.

****! I am nervous about sending the rims back. I could be out of my money and rims. I could dispute it on my Credit card, but I still have to worry about the credit for the Movens that Sander gave me which was netted against the Iforged. But if I keep the rims, its not like I can use them. I guess I could sell them.
Anyone know anybody with an E-class that would like to buy some new iforged rims cheap?

 

TWS is going out of business?!!

NO WAY!
i wont deal with anyone beside them man!

 

clearing the 04.5 sport caliper or the AMG caliper from the C32, the width of the rim is not that big of the issue if it's anything at 9.5 and under.

the real important issue is the offset. The any offset that's bigger than 34-35 depending on the style of the rims likely will need spacers. I'm running 18x8.5 and 18x9.5 and with the offset of 35 and 38 it works perfectly.

the sport pkg rims are 17x7.5 all around I believe.

 

i had a similar issue with my movens also, the offset was 35mm and so are my stocks but it has to do with the design of the rim. all i needed was like 2 mm clearance for the fronts, but hubcentric ones only come in 10mm +, anything less you won't be able to drive on. so my only options were get new rims or slap on 10mm's in front. so my fronts just stick out a little more than usual but it works. And for the rear you can have a small spacer and it wont vibrate at all. you can put on 2mm, or 5mm, or anything you want...so you cann make it fit.

 

I think you can custom order the 5mm hubcentric spacer for the front from tirerack, and I think BlackC230coupe has done this for his car when he got the SSR GT3s.