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Old Oct 14, 2024 | 03:31 PM
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Angry (I have a 2014 E350 4MATIC) How do i un-restrict the engine with the computer system?

How do I un-restrict the engine with the computer system? I need more horsepower!
I have a 2014 Mercedes E350 4MATIC.
And I can not get any shop in Seattle to even look at it!

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The nice thing about the main competitor to this forum, who I don't think I'm allowed to mention, is that most of the vehicle specific forums are already for the people in the final group, the enthusiasts who own/love the car and are seeking to maintain it as long as possible.
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Old Oct 14, 2024 | 03:54 PM
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Your heavy chassis V6 will never act like a turbo V8... the power is limited by engine displacement.

Why not enjoy it for what it is?

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Originally Posted by hat-man
How do I un-restrict the engine with the computer system? I need more horsepower!
I have a 2014 Mercedes E350 4MATIC.
And I can not get any shop in Seattle to even look at it!
You can buy an aftermarket tune chip, but it will only get you 25-30 HP, I believe they make a transmission chip also, this M276 doesn't take well to Mods, best thing is to add two cylinders, LOL

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Define "Un-restrict".....
The computer system limits the horsepower no matter what upgrades I give to it.
I need to get inside the computer system somehow to unrestrict the horsepower from the computer system.
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Old Oct 14, 2024 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by OldManAndHisCar
Define "Un-restrict".....
Originally Posted by CaliBenzDriver
Your heavy chassis V6 will never act like a turbo V8... the power is limited by engine displacement.

Why not enjoy it for what it is?
Because it's slow as **** with only 305 HP. I cannot enjoy that dude. You can definitely get at least 500 horsepower from a 3.5 V6.
What the hell are you saying you Debby downer?
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Old Oct 14, 2024 | 06:16 PM
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You can buy an aftermarket tune chip, but it will only get you 25-30 HP, I believe they make a transmission chip also, this M276 doesn't take well to Mods, best thing is to add two cylinders, LOL
No bro. You just babbled some garbage. The stalk piston's on this thing are huge! The computer system limit's the horsepower by STRAIT UP SHUTTING DOWN THE PISTON'S!!!
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Old Oct 14, 2024 | 06:32 PM
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No bro. You just babbled some garbage. The stalk piston's on this thing are huge! The computer system limit's the horsepower by STRAIT UP SHUTTING DOWN THE PISTON'S!!!
Perhaps you can explain how you expect to get this miraculous horsepower. Power is directly related to fuel flow, fuel flow is limited by airflow (to remain in proper proportion). Airflow through the NA engine can only be increased by increasing rpm, which is limited by valve train.

Gaining hp in a turbo is easy - increase boost (more air = more fuel = more power). It doesn’t work this way in NA engines. You might get 10-20hp, but 500? Smoke on my friend.
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Perhaps you can explain how you expect to get this miraculous horsepower. Power is directly related to fuel flow, fuel flow is limited by airflow (to remain in proper proportion). Airflow through the NA engine can only be increased by increasing rpm, which is limited by valve train.

Gaining hp in a turbo is easy - increase boost (more air = more fuel = more power). It doesn’t work this way in NA engines. You might get 10-20hp, but 500? Smoke on my friend.
I admire your response...you showed amazing restraint and composure with your response.

I have a hard time responding to people whose Piston Stalks are so Huge
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Because it's slow as **** with only 305 HP. I cannot enjoy that dude. You can definitely get at least 500 horsepower from a 3.5 V6.
What the hell are you saying you Debby downer?
Hey there, cowboy. Not sure you're on the right forum. Not a smart move to come here asking for help with an attitude. People will help if you are respectful, but no one will put up with your crap like that. Go figure out how to get 500 hp yourself.
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No bro. You just babbled some garbage. The stalk piston's on this thing are huge! The computer system limit's the horsepower by STRAIT UP SHUTTING DOWN THE PISTON'S!!!
Forget my last post. You're just being an idiot.
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Originally Posted by hat-man
Because it's slow as **** with only 305 HP. I cannot enjoy that dude. You can definitely get at least 500 horsepower from a 3.5 V6.
What the hell are you saying you Debby downer?
Is it being slow as **** a new revelation to you? Did you not drive it before you bought it? If that was so important to you you should have bought one that had a 5 instead of a 3 in the model designation.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out of this forum.
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This was probably some guy playing a joke on us, just seeing what kind of a response he could get. It was fun while it lasted.
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Originally Posted by hat-man
How do I un-restrict the engine with the computer system? I need more horsepower!
I have a 2014 Mercedes E350 4MATIC.
And I can not get any shop in Seattle to even look at it!
Once upon a time a man bought a 2011 E350. Had all sort of “risers” racing it at traffic lights etc and found the car underpowered with the 268 hp engine.

The man then, after just one year, traded this car in for a 2010 E550 and has not met a match yet at traffic lights etc and is very happy with it.

E350 with 2+ metric tons of weight just needs a bigger engine…Period!

But a small good improvement is to install a Sprint Booster. Critics say it does not add power but it sure feels it does.
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Originally Posted by hat-man
How do I un-restrict the engine with the computer system? I need more horsepower!
I have a 2014 Mercedes E350 4MATIC.
And I can not get any shop in Seattle to even look at it!

You can always call Elon Musk and borrow one of his rocket.....


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  • When the model is brand new, it's full of interesting posts discovering hidden features, quirks and gimmicks
  • The period of 3-6 years old are the second owners (me, lol) asking about things to look out for in used models, model year changes and general things like that
  • The period of 8-16 and the forum degrades into idiots that couldn't have bought the car new, and shouldn't have bought the car used. They flood the forums with barely literate posts, asking absurd questions and posting pictures of their now ruined car
  • 16-20+ The forum slowly evolves into enthusiasts who value the classic nature of the vehicle and are simply seeking to maintain it as long as possible. These posts are often the most interesting, as they contain the most detailed analysis and inventive solutions.
The nice thing about the main competitor to this forum, who I don't think I'm allowed to mention, is that most of the vehicle specific forums are already for the people in the final group, the enthusiasts who own/love the car and are seeking to maintain it as long as possible.
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And I can not get any shop in Seattle to even look at it!
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It's always fun watching the life-cycle of a used Mercedes from the perspective of a contributing forum member:
  • When the model is brand new, it's full of interesting posts discovering hidden features, quirks and gimmicks
  • The period of 3-6 years old are the second owners (me, lol) asking about things to look out for in used models, model year changes and general things like that
  • The period of 8-16 and the forum degrades into idiots that couldn't have bought the car new, and shouldn't have bought the car used. They flood the forums with barely literate posts, asking absurd questions and posting pictures of their now ruined car
  • 16-20+ The forum slowly evolves into enthusiasts who value the classic nature of the vehicle and are simply seeking to maintain it as long as possible. These posts are often the most interesting, as they contain the most detailed analysis and inventive solutions.
The nice thing about the main competitor to this forum, who I don't think I'm allowed to mention, is that most of the vehicle specific forums are already for the people in the final group, the enthusiasts who own/love the car and are seeking to maintain it as long as possible.
I couldn’t have said it better, but my thoughts EXACTLY. It’s challenging to be in the second group (mentally) but trying to work through car issues in the 6-10yrs of age range. In other words, out of CPO range but potentially lots of viable life left in them if not for so many cost-cutting and design-questionable choices of the 2010’s forward
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There's probably 4 or 5 years (2014-2019) where Mercedes hit a sweet spot. I'm very happy with my 9- and 10-year-old cars that were at the end or approaching their model life end.
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There's probably 4 or 5 years (2014-2019) where Mercedes hit a sweet spot. I'm very happy with my 9- and 10-year-old cars that were at the end or approaching their model life end.
Aside from a split in the armrest leather where my elbow always sits, my E400 feels like a brand new car (minus the dated infotainment unfortunately). I only have about 62K miles on it though I think. I will not buy any mercedes produced or designed after 2019. Based on their current trajectory, I can't imagine that will ever change.
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Aside from a split in the armrest leather where my elbow always sits, my E400 feels like a brand new car (minus the dated infotainment unfortunately). I only have about 62K miles on it though I think. I will not buy any mercedes produced or designed after 2019. Based on their current trajectory, I can't imagine that will ever change.

When we got our Sprinter 3500 (RV) I was SUPER excited that many of the manual things including steering wheel are "older" (in a newer vehicle). The sales guy was like "it is a bit dated" and my response that I loved it really had him confused. Many of the internal things, shift lever, steering wheel and "touch points" are the exact same items that were in my 2004 C240 4matic Wagon...they lasted and lasted and lasted (almost 300k on the car when I gave it away). Cant say so much for the finishes and bit on my newer cars.
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Originally Posted by DubVBenz
It's always fun watching the life-cycle of a used Mercedes from the perspective of a contributing forum member:
  • When the model is brand new, it's full of interesting posts discovering hidden features, quirks and gimmicks
  • The period of 3-6 years old are the second owners (me, lol) asking about things to look out for in used models, model year changes and general things like that
  • The period of 8-16 and the forum degrades into idiots that couldn't have bought the car new, and shouldn't have bought the car used. They flood the forums with barely literate posts, asking absurd questions and posting pictures of their now ruined car
  • 16-20+ The forum slowly evolves into enthusiasts who value the classic nature of the vehicle and are simply seeking to maintain it as long as possible. These posts are often the most interesting, as they contain the most detailed analysis and inventive solutions.
The nice thing about the main competitor to this forum, who I don't think I'm allowed to mention, is that most of the vehicle specific forums are already for the people in the final group, the enthusiasts who own/love the car and are seeking to maintain it as long as possible.
Amen brother!!! Wow...I've always "wanted" to say somehting like this but didn't have the courage.

My favorite thread splits the 2nd and third categories. A couple years ago it was 90%+ in the second and only a few in the idiot class. But in the last 6 months I've seen a lot more from the idiot group. I just shake my head because I know exactly how it's going to go, but there's no convincing them to back out or cut their losses while it only hurts a little.
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Aside from a split in the armrest leather where my elbow always sits, my E400 feels like a brand new car (minus the dated infotainment unfortunately). I only have about 62K miles on it though I think. I will not buy any mercedes produced or designed after 2019. Based on their current trajectory, I can't imagine that will ever change.
Ya, the infotainment dates the quickest in the car otherwise previous MBs are timeless in design and don't otherwise age, people will put aftermarket systems in to hopefully make it more modern. Infotainment just likes phones gets dated within years. Porsche, for example offers you to upgrade the infotainment in a classic car: https://www.porsche.com/canada/en/ac...ghlights/pccm/
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The problem I believe is we are seeing these 10-15 year old Mercedes at price points that someone who always wanted a Mercedes can now afford to buy, but do not realize that they may NOT be able to afford to keep and maintain. (I happen to be partially in that category to buy a used $100,000 car for 30% to 40% of the original price, but I also can maintain them mostly myself.)

These new Mercedes owners pay less than $10,000 for a high-end automobile with timeless classic looks and ride, made with generally high-quality parts, and believe they got a bargain. Mostly they did, but now they think they can treat the car like a Honda or Toyota and think it will last forever. That is where they are wrong.

The OP in this thread is either a bona fide idiot or just a troll. Or both.

I usually don't like to express my distaste of a member here, but when someone who just joined with four posts under their belt and starts name-calling other members who tell them what they don't want to hear, I have to respond.
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