W203 C-Class tech bulletins
04-18-2002, 10:17 PM
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Originally posted by viper
Thanks for the information MBTech208. I have 3 questions
about changing the grille because of the window fogging.
1. Does the grille look the same ?
2. Is this a big deal to replace ? The thought of someone having
to remove the dash and cause possible squeek problems is
something I would rather avoid.
3. How long shoud the job take ?
Thanks for the information MBTech208. I have 3 questions
about changing the grille because of the window fogging.
1. Does the grille look the same ?
2. Is this a big deal to replace ? The thought of someone having
to remove the dash and cause possible squeek problems is
something I would rather avoid.
3. How long shoud the job take ?
2. No. The dash doesn't have to come out, it's removed from the top.
3. About 5-10 minutes.
04-19-2002, 04:05 AM
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MBTech - What do you techs do about creaking dash boards? Mine creaks when I drive over speed bumps and on rough surfaces. Can anything be done about this? My car is a W203 200K sedan by the way.
Thanks in advance!
Thanks in advance!
04-19-2002, 09:58 AM
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My keys start with 217, not 221. Does that mean I should
take my keys in for replacement before I get stranded
somewhere? Has this problem ever left anyone stranded? Or
is it an intermittent issue?
My keys start with 217, not 221. Does that mean I should
take my keys in for replacement before I get stranded
somewhere? Has this problem ever left anyone stranded? Or
is it an intermittent issue?
05-30-2002, 05:56 PM
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Dave, thanks a lot! We all really appreciate this.
I would like to see the S-Class Tech Bulletin, if it's not too much trouble.
Thanks
I would like to see the S-Class Tech Bulletin, if it's not too much trouble.
Thanks
06-01-2002, 08:07 PM
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I also would like to know how to fix those dash squeeks when driving over slight bumps
Thanks
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Thanks
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06-01-2002, 08:14 PM
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me too
My car rattles or sumthin when i go over speed bumps. I think it may be related to the bushings.
My car rattles or sumthin when i go over speed bumps. I think it may be related to the bushings.
06-01-2002, 08:39 PM
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Ok, I posted this link before but still think it belongs to this threads topic. Its a list with short descriptions on several problems (with references to tech-bulletins). It's pretty old but some of the service-records may still be valid.
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06-04-2002, 05:19 PM
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Thanks once again to the person who posted the service bulletin list. I was worried that mine was the only one having oil consumption issues.
So far I have had the fogging windshield, the rattling headrest, and the oil consumption issue. Not on the list, I have also had the front driver seat replaced because it was loose (slid from side to side) and have had intermittent issues with the auto-down feature on the drivers window not working. My dealer has not yet figured out the oil consumption issue. It started warning me around 7k miles and they advised me to add oil if it needed it. Not something I think I should have to be doing! At 9k miles they tried to do an oil consumption test, but they missed part of the test so now I am waiting for the warning to come back again.
I took delivery in 9/01 so mine was probably one of the first ones produced. I have a 217 series key, but have not experienced any key-related issues yet.
Kevin
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(and hopefully one day a '63 190SL)
So far I have had the fogging windshield, the rattling headrest, and the oil consumption issue. Not on the list, I have also had the front driver seat replaced because it was loose (slid from side to side) and have had intermittent issues with the auto-down feature on the drivers window not working. My dealer has not yet figured out the oil consumption issue. It started warning me around 7k miles and they advised me to add oil if it needed it. Not something I think I should have to be doing! At 9k miles they tried to do an oil consumption test, but they missed part of the test so now I am waiting for the warning to come back again.
I took delivery in 9/01 so mine was probably one of the first ones produced. I have a 217 series key, but have not experienced any key-related issues yet.
Kevin
'02 C230K - Brilliant Silver
(and hopefully one day a '63 190SL)
06-05-2002, 12:39 AM
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My oil consumption has gone down dramatically. It now has 5300 miles on it, and it still shows the same on the dipstick as when I had to add oil at about 3600 (2 qts low). Hopefully, everything is seated now and that problem is taken care of.
10-26-2002, 10:58 AM
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Re: W203 C-Class tech bulletins
Was doing a search and just came across this thread...thought I'd send it back to the top of the post queue as it maybe useful to those guys who recently bought their w203 (although hopefully MB has rectified alot of these by now!)
Originally posted by mbtech208
Here's some of the topics of bulletins that MB has issued on the C-Class since it's introduction.
-Headlight sockets melting
-Clicking noises from A/C flap stepper motors
-Hydraulic motor mounts
-203 Coupe A/C inop, check version coding in EIS or A/C pressure sensor
-Fuel pump/sending unit O-ring
-Brake squeal, updated pads
-Accelerator pedal squeaks when pressed
-COMAND does not respond to voice controls
-Check engine light. Codes P2036 and/or P203A and/or engine performance complaints, bad connection at Z7/27 splice.
-Clicking noise from charcoal canister shut-off valve
-Door check strap noise, caused by loose bolts. Updated bolts.
-Engine runs rough after coming to a stop or hesitates accelerating, updated ME control unit. Does not apply to C230 or AMG models.
-Estimated time of arrival calculation is 12 hours longer than actual ETA.
-Front seat head restraint rattles. Remove head rests and bend rods apart so they apply pressure to guide sleeves.
-Pushbutton for releasing rear panels in C320 wagon comes loose
-Instrument cluster info not centered, info services selection gray and not selectable; TEL mode, SMS, or notebook gray and not selectable. Need to version code COMAND.
-Hard starting after fuel filter replacement
-Noises from instrument panel/right A-pillar area. Lube hood hinge at bracket, hood rubs bracket when closed.
-Noises from shaft for front seat tilt adjustment.
-Oil consumption complaints
-Panorama roof panel does not open or move. Break-in by opening/closing 6", 50 times.
-Poor radio reception up to VIN F157265. Check for antenna amplifier loose on rear glass.
-Popping or thumping in speakers, install updated BOSE amp.
-Purge valve clicking noise at idle
-Remote key intermittently inop. Replace remote keys with newer version. Check seven digit number on lower side edge of key. First three digits should be 221.
-Tailgate spoiler loose on 203 wagon.
-TeleAid remote unlocking via satellite inop.
-Trunk lid does not open with remote key, trunk release button, or handle. Replace trunk lock assembly
-Upper crossmember bolt breaking (goes across top of radiator).
-Various CD malfunctions including "No CD Changer" message, skipping, no recognition of magazine or discs. Check spring tension settings for vertical or horizontal.
-Windshield fogging above center vent
Here's some of the topics of bulletins that MB has issued on the C-Class since it's introduction.
-Headlight sockets melting
-Clicking noises from A/C flap stepper motors
-Hydraulic motor mounts
-203 Coupe A/C inop, check version coding in EIS or A/C pressure sensor
-Fuel pump/sending unit O-ring
-Brake squeal, updated pads
-Accelerator pedal squeaks when pressed
-COMAND does not respond to voice controls
-Check engine light. Codes P2036 and/or P203A and/or engine performance complaints, bad connection at Z7/27 splice.
-Clicking noise from charcoal canister shut-off valve
-Door check strap noise, caused by loose bolts. Updated bolts.
-Engine runs rough after coming to a stop or hesitates accelerating, updated ME control unit. Does not apply to C230 or AMG models.
-Estimated time of arrival calculation is 12 hours longer than actual ETA.
-Front seat head restraint rattles. Remove head rests and bend rods apart so they apply pressure to guide sleeves.
-Pushbutton for releasing rear panels in C320 wagon comes loose
-Instrument cluster info not centered, info services selection gray and not selectable; TEL mode, SMS, or notebook gray and not selectable. Need to version code COMAND.
-Hard starting after fuel filter replacement
-Noises from instrument panel/right A-pillar area. Lube hood hinge at bracket, hood rubs bracket when closed.
-Noises from shaft for front seat tilt adjustment.
-Oil consumption complaints
-Panorama roof panel does not open or move. Break-in by opening/closing 6", 50 times.
-Poor radio reception up to VIN F157265. Check for antenna amplifier loose on rear glass.
-Popping or thumping in speakers, install updated BOSE amp.
-Purge valve clicking noise at idle
-Remote key intermittently inop. Replace remote keys with newer version. Check seven digit number on lower side edge of key. First three digits should be 221.
-Tailgate spoiler loose on 203 wagon.
-TeleAid remote unlocking via satellite inop.
-Trunk lid does not open with remote key, trunk release button, or handle. Replace trunk lock assembly
-Upper crossmember bolt breaking (goes across top of radiator).
-Various CD malfunctions including "No CD Changer" message, skipping, no recognition of magazine or discs. Check spring tension settings for vertical or horizontal.
-Windshield fogging above center vent
10-26-2002, 12:44 PM
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Re: W203 C-Class tech bulletins
"-Panorama roof panel does not open or move. Break-in by opening/closing 6", 50 times. " !!!!!!!!!
50 times ??? Very Funny !! Also how would you "opening/closing 6", when "roof panel does not open or move" to begin with? Manually cranking the monkey wrench 50 times ???
50 times ??? Very Funny !! Also how would you "opening/closing 6", when "roof panel does not open or move" to begin with? Manually cranking the monkey wrench 50 times ???
Originally posted by mbtech208
Here's some of the topics of bulletins that MB has issued on the C-Class since it's introduction.
-Headlight sockets melting
-Clicking noises from A/C flap stepper motors
-Hydraulic motor mounts
-203 Coupe A/C inop, check version coding in EIS or A/C pressure sensor
-Fuel pump/sending unit O-ring
-Brake squeal, updated pads
-Accelerator pedal squeaks when pressed
-COMAND does not respond to voice controls
-Check engine light. Codes P2036 and/or P203A and/or engine performance complaints, bad connection at Z7/27 splice.
-Clicking noise from charcoal canister shut-off valve
-Door check strap noise, caused by loose bolts. Updated bolts.
-Engine runs rough after coming to a stop or hesitates accelerating, updated ME control unit. Does not apply to C230 or AMG models.
-Estimated time of arrival calculation is 12 hours longer than actual ETA.
-Front seat head restraint rattles. Remove head rests and bend rods apart so they apply pressure to guide sleeves.
-Pushbutton for releasing rear panels in C320 wagon comes loose
-Instrument cluster info not centered, info services selection gray and not selectable; TEL mode, SMS, or notebook gray and not selectable. Need to version code COMAND.
-Hard starting after fuel filter replacement
-Noises from instrument panel/right A-pillar area. Lube hood hinge at bracket, hood rubs bracket when closed.
-Noises from shaft for front seat tilt adjustment.
-Oil consumption complaints
-Panorama roof panel does not open or move. Break-in by opening/closing 6", 50 times.
-Poor radio reception up to VIN F157265. Check for antenna amplifier loose on rear glass.
-Popping or thumping in speakers, install updated BOSE amp.
-Purge valve clicking noise at idle
-Remote key intermittently inop. Replace remote keys with newer version. Check seven digit number on lower side edge of key. First three digits should be 221.
-Tailgate spoiler loose on 203 wagon.
-TeleAid remote unlocking via satellite inop.
-Trunk lid does not open with remote key, trunk release button, or handle. Replace trunk lock assembly
-Upper crossmember bolt breaking (goes across top of radiator).
-Various CD malfunctions including "No CD Changer" message, skipping, no recognition of magazine or discs. Check spring tension settings for vertical or horizontal.
-Windshield fogging above center vent
Here's some of the topics of bulletins that MB has issued on the C-Class since it's introduction.
-Headlight sockets melting
-Clicking noises from A/C flap stepper motors
-Hydraulic motor mounts
-203 Coupe A/C inop, check version coding in EIS or A/C pressure sensor
-Fuel pump/sending unit O-ring
-Brake squeal, updated pads
-Accelerator pedal squeaks when pressed
-COMAND does not respond to voice controls
-Check engine light. Codes P2036 and/or P203A and/or engine performance complaints, bad connection at Z7/27 splice.
-Clicking noise from charcoal canister shut-off valve
-Door check strap noise, caused by loose bolts. Updated bolts.
-Engine runs rough after coming to a stop or hesitates accelerating, updated ME control unit. Does not apply to C230 or AMG models.
-Estimated time of arrival calculation is 12 hours longer than actual ETA.
-Front seat head restraint rattles. Remove head rests and bend rods apart so they apply pressure to guide sleeves.
-Pushbutton for releasing rear panels in C320 wagon comes loose
-Instrument cluster info not centered, info services selection gray and not selectable; TEL mode, SMS, or notebook gray and not selectable. Need to version code COMAND.
-Hard starting after fuel filter replacement
-Noises from instrument panel/right A-pillar area. Lube hood hinge at bracket, hood rubs bracket when closed.
-Noises from shaft for front seat tilt adjustment.
-Oil consumption complaints
-Panorama roof panel does not open or move. Break-in by opening/closing 6", 50 times.
-Poor radio reception up to VIN F157265. Check for antenna amplifier loose on rear glass.
-Popping or thumping in speakers, install updated BOSE amp.
-Purge valve clicking noise at idle
-Remote key intermittently inop. Replace remote keys with newer version. Check seven digit number on lower side edge of key. First three digits should be 221.
-Tailgate spoiler loose on 203 wagon.
-TeleAid remote unlocking via satellite inop.
-Trunk lid does not open with remote key, trunk release button, or handle. Replace trunk lock assembly
-Upper crossmember bolt breaking (goes across top of radiator).
-Various CD malfunctions including "No CD Changer" message, skipping, no recognition of magazine or discs. Check spring tension settings for vertical or horizontal.
-Windshield fogging above center vent
10-26-2002, 01:03 PM
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Originally posted by Davidta
I am having an oil consumption issue and have made an appointment for friday to have it checked out, I am surprised to find it on the list and it makes me feal much better. I am wondering though what is the suggested fix for this and how long does it take?
I am having an oil consumption issue and have made an appointment for friday to have it checked out, I am surprised to find it on the list and it makes me feal much better. I am wondering though what is the suggested fix for this and how long does it take?
whats the problem your having.
10-26-2002, 01:08 PM
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Originally posted by DtS
Ok, I posted this link before but still think it belongs to this threads topic. Its a list with short descriptions on several problems (with references to tech-bulletins). It's pretty old but some of the service-records may still be valid.
MB Service Records
Ok, I posted this link before but still think it belongs to this threads topic. Its a list with short descriptions on several problems (with references to tech-bulletins). It's pretty old but some of the service-records may still be valid.
MB Service Records
can you relist the link, that one is not working. Thanks
10-26-2002, 03:33 PM
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ok, my ride is tripping out on me. first, the drivers side window wont go up after it is put down. the sunroof does not work for the horizontal positions but does work vertically. about 60% of the time the interior lights do not come on when i open the door and when this happens, the headlights dont come on in the AUTO mode, i have to switch them on manually. also, when this happens none of the interior lights work at all, i.e. rear seat lamps, map lights (the dashboard lights still work, though). the f****n' flip cupholder is broken. and finally there is a loiud ticking noise every time i turn the car off after driving it. its going into the shop this week and hopefully they can fix this b.s. anybody else having any of these problems??? any new tech updates???
10-26-2002, 06:11 PM
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MB Tech, I sure appreicate your help in sharing the squauk sheet for the W 203.
My car had most all of the things you listed plus a brake pad /rotor change out to get rid of the sqealing brakes. The rear wiring harness had to be replaced to gain the remote satellite unlocking which was inop on the early builds. I'm still fighting electrical gremlins where the tail lights stay on regardless of the light switch postion.
I bought one of the first builds in Nov 2000 and can tell you this car is really a big disappointment. I paid 44K and had a boring but solid Toyota Avalon which only went in for two repairs in three years.
When the car is out of the shop, it is a delight to drive; solid as they come and I do feel safe in it. Mileage is averaging an honest 25.5 mpg for all types of driving. This car has loads of torque early on which makes me wonder how conservative the HP rating is.
Still I'm going to be happy to try something different as my lease is up in 12 months.
My car had most all of the things you listed plus a brake pad /rotor change out to get rid of the sqealing brakes. The rear wiring harness had to be replaced to gain the remote satellite unlocking which was inop on the early builds. I'm still fighting electrical gremlins where the tail lights stay on regardless of the light switch postion.
I bought one of the first builds in Nov 2000 and can tell you this car is really a big disappointment. I paid 44K and had a boring but solid Toyota Avalon which only went in for two repairs in three years.
When the car is out of the shop, it is a delight to drive; solid as they come and I do feel safe in it. Mileage is averaging an honest 25.5 mpg for all types of driving. This car has loads of torque early on which makes me wonder how conservative the HP rating is.
Still I'm going to be happy to try something different as my lease is up in 12 months.
10-26-2002, 08:59 PM
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"Replace center grille with part number 203 830 11 18." Presumably, this updated vent has less chemicals in it which cause fogging on the windshield.
does this appy to the c230 only or is it for the c240/c320?
does this appy to the c230 only or is it for the c240/c320?
10-27-2002, 04:01 PM
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Originally posted by two.face
DTS,
can you relist the link, that one is not working. Thanks
DTS,
can you relist the link, that one is not working. Thanks
Don't know where the info went.
10-28-2002, 12:01 AM
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I am still trying to deal with the problem I have the car will sometimes go through 2 liters low in 1200 miles and then at other times it is fine... I have had the hardest time dealing with my service center with this one because I am constantly floating b etween 2 states it is very hard for me to return to the same shop exactly when they need me too, but in their defence with everything else the shop in NH has been great, can't say the same about the one in Manhattan though which is owned by MB itself, real dissapointing!
10-28-2002, 12:31 AM
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Originally posted by Rainers
"Replace center grille with part number 203 830 11 18." Presumably, this updated vent has less chemicals in it which cause fogging on the windshield.
does this appy to the c230 only or is it for the c240/c320?
"Replace center grille with part number 203 830 11 18." Presumably, this updated vent has less chemicals in it which cause fogging on the windshield.
does this appy to the c230 only or is it for the c240/c320?
10-28-2002, 09:34 AM
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Re: Re: W203 C-Class tech bulletins
Originally posted by JeT
Was doing a search and just came across this thread...thought I'd send it back to the top of the post queue as it maybe useful to those guys who recently bought their w203 (although hopefully MB has rectified alot of these by now!)
Was doing a search and just came across this thread...thought I'd send it back to the top of the post queue as it maybe useful to those guys who recently bought their w203 (although hopefully MB has rectified alot of these by now!)
they don't rectify these until you have each and every one occur!!!!
