Timing correlation codes. Timing chain/guide question?
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Timing correlation codes. Timing chain/guide question?
I have acquired a 2005 C230 Sport. It had crankshaft/camshaft timing correlation codes. It would barely idle, and then die. But it will start, instead of just crank.
At this point, do you think the timing has jump and caused severe engine damage? Or do you think its safe to replace chains and guides and then go from there.
Thanks in advance
At this point, do you think the timing has jump and caused severe engine damage? Or do you think its safe to replace chains and guides and then go from there.
Thanks in advance
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What do mean "acquired".
Did you buy a POS MB C-Class because it was cheap, and you thought that was a good reliable car?
Fwiw, that's the E-Class.
MB are not cheap to work on. They also very often require special scanners, to get good/correct codes.
You have to remove the top cover and look at the cam gears and the crank gears.
Did you buy a POS MB C-Class because it was cheap, and you thought that was a good reliable car?
Fwiw, that's the E-Class.
MB are not cheap to work on. They also very often require special scanners, to get good/correct codes.
You have to remove the top cover and look at the cam gears and the crank gears.
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Thanks for the response.
I had an account on here at one point when I had a W210, but sold it a few years back. I could not remember my username or password. So I had to create another.
I own a 2006 E55 AMG as well, hence the user name. I was pretty much given the 2005 C230 Sport, but I have never owned one, especially with a timing issue. I figured if I can get it running, maybe I can daily it or maybe just turn around and sell it.
I had an account on here at one point when I had a W210, but sold it a few years back. I could not remember my username or password. So I had to create another.
I own a 2006 E55 AMG as well, hence the user name. I was pretty much given the 2005 C230 Sport, but I have never owned one, especially with a timing issue. I figured if I can get it running, maybe I can daily it or maybe just turn around and sell it.
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2005 C230K Sport Coupe
https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...chain-diy.html
Figure ~$300+ in special tools and software.
You need torque wrench.
You need a semi-rigid inspection scope.
Figure ~$1000 if it's just the timing chain.
If the gears are also bad, that can get $$$ very quickly. The gears for the cams are very expensive.
NOTE: If you want to do stuff cheap/half-*ssed, then that's your choice. Also, maybe someone else will help.
I will not tell people to do stuff that I know is wrong. One of my degrees is in Mech Engr. I've been a Principal Engr since the 90s. I've been working on cars, building engines/etc for over 20 yrs. So, if people disagree with my views and the views and instructions of MB, then that is their right. But, that doesn't mean that I have to help people to do that stuff.
Good Luck!
Figure ~$300+ in special tools and software.
You need torque wrench.
You need a semi-rigid inspection scope.
Figure ~$1000 if it's just the timing chain.
If the gears are also bad, that can get $$$ very quickly. The gears for the cams are very expensive.
NOTE: If you want to do stuff cheap/half-*ssed, then that's your choice. Also, maybe someone else will help.
I will not tell people to do stuff that I know is wrong. One of my degrees is in Mech Engr. I've been a Principal Engr since the 90s. I've been working on cars, building engines/etc for over 20 yrs. So, if people disagree with my views and the views and instructions of MB, then that is their right. But, that doesn't mean that I have to help people to do that stuff.
Good Luck!
Last edited by RedGray; Aug 27, 2018 at 11:37 PM.
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No problem. I agree with doing it the right way, with the right parts. Looks like I'm just going to have to start tearing into it. Luckily, a buddy of mine gave me a set of cam gears from another C230k that have perfect teeth, so hopefully I will just have to order chains and guides. I have access to the special tools through my work, so hopefully this shouldn't be too big of a deal. I need to do a compression test though. No point in tearing the timing components off if the engine is no good anyway.
