changing to c32 suspension, any problems?
06-12-2004, 05:37 PM
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changing to c32 suspension, any problems?
I got myself a set of c32 suspension springs and shocks. I am installing them on my c320 sedan. will I have any problems at all? Does anything have to be changed besides the shocks like sways. bushings? Will anything on my car wear faster since I am getting the amg suspension? I have hearad a few people on the c32 forum with HR coilovers have problems with their lower control arm bushing.
06-12-2004, 06:11 PM
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That is probably because coilovers lower the car and thereby change the geometry of the suspension. If you are getting the US version of the C32 AMG suspension you probably won't notice a difference in ride height, only in ride quality.
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06-12-2004, 10:19 PM
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everyone on the c32 forum has told me that it will lower my front by 1 inch and rear by 1.2 inches. The mB USA site says both the c32 and c320 are the same height. Who is correct?
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Mercedes doesn't make a C32 Coupe. Their AMG Coupe has a turbocharged diesel with 400 ft pounds of torque. Brabus makes a Coupe with the V8!!! 0-60 in 4.4 seconds.
There is no doubt the C32 suspension is lower than the stock 2001-04 C320 sedan suspension. The C32s at C Spot had almost zero gap between tires and the wheel openings.
There is no doubt the C32 suspension is lower than the stock 2001-04 C320 sedan suspension. The C32s at C Spot had almost zero gap between tires and the wheel openings.
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i thought they have a C32 coupe in Europe, though you could only get it through ordering it since they werent in full production. I know about the C30CDI.
theres a C32 coupe for you!!!!! a link to mbspy
http://www.mbspy.com/w203c32amgsc.htm
and a pic
theres a C32 coupe for you!!!!! a link to mbspy
http://www.mbspy.com/w203c32amgsc.htm
and a pic
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Originally posted by CitronC230K_03
is that all the diff. is between stock suspension and C32 suspension?
is that all the diff. is between stock suspension and C32 suspension?
06-15-2004, 04:05 PM
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Shocks, springs, sway bars are different. Haven't been able to confirm if the control arms and/or control arm bushings are different or not.
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Originally posted by CitronC230K_03
what kind of lowering will i have with AMG springs?
what kind of lowering will i have with AMG springs?
06-16-2004, 04:15 PM
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I will sell my springs for $200 + s&h
I will sell my springs for $200 + s&h
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Mr CitronC230K_03:
I have one word for you: Budget
Depending on what you are talking about as far a budget is concerned, will depend what you can/might be able to get.
If you are looking to get performance quality driving/handling experience out of your C class, then you should go for the AMG suspension. AMG suspenssion is a pure performance, tight, very strong and responsive. It is not soft and cushy like the one you have on your C coupe. Everytime we get a loaner car, my wife NOTICES the difference between the loaner (normal C class W203 chasis) vs the AMG suspension my car has.
If you wanted to get your car even lower than a normal AMG suspenssion, depending on what budget you are looking:
-Get lowering srpings only and keep your original shocks (Brabus or Kleeman or Elibach springs repectively --that was in order of quality from best to worse). This option WILL NOT give you the handling of an AMG suspenssion, but your car will look like a racing tiger, will have a very aggresive look and will be much lower than the stock AMG suspenssion. (this is the least expensive mod on suspenssion)
-Get a cup-kit, H&R has a good set up, then Kleeman, then Brabus, then Elibach (this is the "mid-range" mod on suspenssion)
-Get the coilovers: H&R are head to head with Bilkteins PSS-9. This set up has a manually configurable lowering range. This system will offer your the best lowering and handling (this set up is the most expensive)
Cupkits are struts and srpings put together, for example, the AMG suspenssion would fall under a cupkit set up. Coilovers differ only with cupkits that coilovers are adjustable, so you can change the height and tightness of the suspenssion itself (and you knew that!!.. I am just posting it for the sake of those who didn't know it all too well).
Whatever you decide, say get the AMG suspenssion, you have to think about the costs of installation, alignment on your car, so if you get one suspenssion and later you decide to "upgrade" it again, then you will re-inccur all the costs of alignment and installation again... so is best to see what can you afford and that you are happy on getting and go for it.
Also, be advised, that depending on what you chose, there are "pros" and "cons"... to each desicion.. the least expensive, may and I repeat may have a premature wear of your stock shocks; since you will be changing the geomerty of your suspenssion and what the shock was designed to handle... some people have ported the problems with their "bushings".. everything depending with the driving caracteristics you put in your car will be the final factors that will determine that. I've had a previous vehicle that I put only the lowering srpings as I wanted just the "look" and I drove the car until I gor rid of it (I had that car for 7 years!) and never had a problem with the suspenssion at all...
Hope this helps...
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I have one word for you: Budget
Depending on what you are talking about as far a budget is concerned, will depend what you can/might be able to get.
If you are looking to get performance quality driving/handling experience out of your C class, then you should go for the AMG suspension. AMG suspenssion is a pure performance, tight, very strong and responsive. It is not soft and cushy like the one you have on your C coupe. Everytime we get a loaner car, my wife NOTICES the difference between the loaner (normal C class W203 chasis) vs the AMG suspension my car has.
If you wanted to get your car even lower than a normal AMG suspenssion, depending on what budget you are looking:
-Get lowering srpings only and keep your original shocks (Brabus or Kleeman or Elibach springs repectively --that was in order of quality from best to worse). This option WILL NOT give you the handling of an AMG suspenssion, but your car will look like a racing tiger, will have a very aggresive look and will be much lower than the stock AMG suspenssion. (this is the least expensive mod on suspenssion)
-Get a cup-kit, H&R has a good set up, then Kleeman, then Brabus, then Elibach (this is the "mid-range" mod on suspenssion)
-Get the coilovers: H&R are head to head with Bilkteins PSS-9. This set up has a manually configurable lowering range. This system will offer your the best lowering and handling (this set up is the most expensive)
Cupkits are struts and srpings put together, for example, the AMG suspenssion would fall under a cupkit set up. Coilovers differ only with cupkits that coilovers are adjustable, so you can change the height and tightness of the suspenssion itself (and you knew that!!.. I am just posting it for the sake of those who didn't know it all too well
).Whatever you decide, say get the AMG suspenssion, you have to think about the costs of installation, alignment on your car, so if you get one suspenssion and later you decide to "upgrade" it again, then you will re-inccur all the costs of alignment and installation again... so is best to see what can you afford and that you are happy on getting and go for it.
Also, be advised, that depending on what you chose, there are "pros" and "cons"... to each desicion.. the least expensive, may and I repeat may have a premature wear of your stock shocks; since you will be changing the geomerty of your suspenssion and what the shock was designed to handle... some people have ported the problems with their "bushings".. everything depending with the driving caracteristics you put in your car will be the final factors that will determine that. I've had a previous vehicle that I put only the lowering srpings as I wanted just the "look" and I drove the car until I gor rid of it (I had that car for 7 years!) and never had a problem with the suspenssion at all...
Hope this helps...
Cheers
Wiedermann
06-16-2004, 06:10 PM
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Originally posted by Vader13
Non AMG W203 with C32 AMG springs will drop your car
around 10mm front 15mm rear..
Non AMG W203 with C32 AMG springs will drop your car
around 10mm front 15mm rear..
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Originally posted by Vader13
Non AMG W203 with C32 AMG springs will drop your car
around 10mm front 15mm rear..
Non AMG W203 with C32 AMG springs will drop your car
around 10mm front 15mm rear..
Another, also famous quote from Mr Vader:
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I think it will not make much difference either way, both cars have the macpherson strut and it's the same chassis, but the weight on the coupe should make the car drop less that the non amg w203 sedan.
I think it will not make much difference either way, both cars have the macpherson strut and it's the same chassis, but the weight on the coupe should make the car drop less that the non amg w203 sedan.
