C-Class (W203) 2001-2007, C160, C180, C200, C220, C230, C240, C270, C280, C300, C320, C230K, C350, Coupe

Project daily driver 2005 c230

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old 06-20-2019, 06:52 PM
  #1  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Ben Peterson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Boise
Posts: 27
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
2012 VW GTI, 2005 c230k
Project daily driver 2005 c230

Hello! First post here, long time reader.
Im about to purchase my first project car. A 2005 c230. 153k miles. The interior and exterior are in super good condition.
The needs:
brakes
shocks
tires
oh one more thing, he says he melted a cylinder.
Upon inspection it seems like he actually threw a rod as I don’t think it is possible to actually melt anything besides plastic or rubber...

He is throwing in a second set of wheels and some audio extras...
hope to pick it up this weekend.

I was was going to wait to post photos, but I am too excited not to share!
Old 06-29-2019, 04:04 PM
  #2  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Ben Peterson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Boise
Posts: 27
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
2012 VW GTI, 2005 c230k
Picked her up this morning,


Old 06-30-2019, 08:55 AM
  #3  
Super Member
 
KevinH2000's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Richmond, VA Metro Area
Posts: 905
Received 133 Likes on 124 Posts
2005 C230 Sport Sedan-6 Speed Manual
The car appears to be in good cosmetic condition. I am curious about your plan for addressing the engine issue.
The following users liked this post:
Ben Peterson (07-08-2019)
Old 06-30-2019, 09:00 AM
  #4  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Ben Peterson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Boise
Posts: 27
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
2012 VW GTI, 2005 c230k
Motor is coming out and rebuild to start. I’m planning on looking for the radiator issue and flushing the transmission too as long as we are in there.

Step one is remove the radiator which is my morning project today.
Old 06-30-2019, 03:03 PM
  #5  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Ben Peterson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Boise
Posts: 27
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
2012 VW GTI, 2005 c230k
Stuck trying to get the radiator fan off. Can t seem to find the clips to remove the fan... it seems like it should be obvious all the videos make it seem simple and “right there”.
Can’t seem to find a photo to figure it out
Old 06-30-2019, 03:42 PM
  #6  
Super Member
 
KevinH2000's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Richmond, VA Metro Area
Posts: 905
Received 133 Likes on 124 Posts
2005 C230 Sport Sedan-6 Speed Manual
Originally Posted by Ben Peterson
Stuck trying to get the radiator fan off. Can t seem to find the clips to remove the fan... it seems like it should be obvious all the videos make it seem simple and “right there”.
Can’t seem to find a photo to figure it out
Did you see this DIY: https://www.pelicanparts.com/techart...ectric_Fan.htm
The following users liked this post:
Ben Peterson (07-08-2019)
Old 06-30-2019, 06:48 PM
  #7  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Ben Peterson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Boise
Posts: 27
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
2012 VW GTI, 2005 c230k
Originally Posted by KevinH2000
I did thank you!! I found the top 2 clips but one WILL NOT budge. Any one know if I can just leave it attached and pull the radiator and fan as one unit?
Old 07-01-2019, 08:11 PM
  #8  
Super Member
 
KevinH2000's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Richmond, VA Metro Area
Posts: 905
Received 133 Likes on 124 Posts
2005 C230 Sport Sedan-6 Speed Manual
Originally Posted by Ben Peterson
Any one know if I can just leave it attached and pull the radiator and fan as one unit?
I have not done this work, and I cannot say for sure. The next step in the instructions is:

Lift the cross member out and flip it over. Next you need to remove the hood release cable on the right side. It just slips out of its plastic retaining clip.

This implies that you need to remove the clips before you can go any further. The hood release cable will probably prevent you from taking out the fan and radiator as one unit.
The following users liked this post:
Ben Peterson (07-08-2019)
Old 07-01-2019, 10:36 PM
  #9  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
BF_JC230's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: WNY
Posts: 1,489
Received 107 Likes on 100 Posts
2005 w203 C230
Does this help?

The following users liked this post:
Ben Peterson (07-08-2019)
Old 07-02-2019, 09:42 AM
  #10  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Ben Peterson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Boise
Posts: 27
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
2012 VW GTI, 2005 c230k
Update:
i ended up ,moving forward and disconnected everything else that I could to get the radiator out. Doing that freed up the fan enough to come out.
Now...I’m stuck again.
the radiator seems to be attached to something along the bottom, like I need to remove the bumper to see what’s going on. Which doesn’t make sense as none of the instructions show anything like that at all.

Last edited by Ben Peterson; 07-02-2019 at 12:40 PM.
Old 07-06-2019, 01:40 PM
  #11  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Ben Peterson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Boise
Posts: 27
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
2012 VW GTI, 2005 c230k
I think I can see where it’s stuck, I’m thinking here is a bracket on the lower driver side of the radiator, I cannot seem to get it unclipped...

luckily my mechanical 17 year old gets back tonight. Then high gear to the repair. (At least I hope)
Old 07-07-2019, 11:55 AM
  #12  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Ben Peterson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Boise
Posts: 27
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
2012 VW GTI, 2005 c230k
Update: my kiddo came back home last night while I was at my side gig job (to pay for this project). Within 3 hours of him arriving home he has the engine ready to come out, we just need a bit to remove the drive shaft and pick up a hoist to pull the motor.

the radiator was definitely not like the instructions. The intercooler was bolted to a bracket that was holding the radiator in place...???
The bumper had to come off, but I guess it was “no big deal”.
Old 07-07-2019, 03:05 PM
  #13  
Member
 
azblk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 121
Received 28 Likes on 24 Posts
2013 C250 SPORT, 2014 WRX STI SEDAN, 2017 E300 4MATIC
Following.
The following users liked this post:
Ben Peterson (07-08-2019)
Old 07-07-2019, 10:49 PM
  #14  
Super Member
 
KevinH2000's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Richmond, VA Metro Area
Posts: 905
Received 133 Likes on 124 Posts
2005 C230 Sport Sedan-6 Speed Manual
Glad to hear you are making progress. It sounds like your son is a great asset. Please continue the updates.

If you’re interested, here’s a thread with details of the work I did to repair and upgrade my C230: https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...0-revival.html I did not attempt anything as ambitious as an engine rebuild, but I don’t have a helper with the skills of your son.

In my opinion the W203 C230 is under appreciated and I am glad to see someone working to save one.

By the way, I recommend that you check the NHTSA web site to see whether the previous owner took care of the Takata air bag recall for the driver’s side. https://www.nhtsa.gov/recalls?gclid=...E&gclsrc=aw.ds

Last edited by KevinH2000; 07-07-2019 at 10:56 PM.
The following users liked this post:
Ben Peterson (07-08-2019)
Old 07-08-2019, 12:10 AM
  #15  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Ben Peterson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Boise
Posts: 27
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
2012 VW GTI, 2005 c230k
Originally Posted by KevinH2000
Glad to hear you are making progress. It sounds like your son is a great asset. Please continue the updates.

If you’re interested, here’s a thread with details of the work I did to repair and upgrade my C230: https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...0-revival.html I did not attempt anything as ambitious as an engine rebuild, but I don’t have a helper with the skills of your son.

In my opinion the W203 C230 is under appreciated and I am glad to see someone working to save one.

By the way, I recommend that you check the NHTSA web site to see whether the previous owner took care of the Takata air bag recall for the driver’s side. https://www.nhtsa.gov/recalls?gclid=...E&gclsrc=aw.ds
Thanks! I will definitely check out your thread.

We we had to get the car on rear stands as well because the car is so low. Got the bit, bought a stand and hoist.
Now we have to get a load leveler to pull out the motor.
It was surprising that we are taking the transmission out with the motor.
Thinking about a shift kit as long as the transmission is out. Has anyone done this?
Old 07-09-2019, 02:54 AM
  #16  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Ben Peterson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Boise
Posts: 27
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
2012 VW GTI, 2005 c230k
Today we made good progress! The motor and tranny came out with not too many complications. Just missed a few things but going slow we were able to see what we missed disconnecting while pulling the motor out. Then we removed the bell housing and pulled the torque converter off. Ran into a few hiccups but nothing a little googling couldn’t solve. Like removing the TC. Nowhere in the literature does it say anything about removing bolts that are hidden beneath and behind where is visible, and under a cover plate to boot! All the VIS says is to pull the torque converter out “using handles as necessary “ or something like that.
I got too tired and called it a night. We need bolts to hold the engine on the stand and we have to reposition he motor on he hoist so we can reach the stand. Maybe longer chains would have been better to use?
Once we have the motor on the stand it should go pretty quick to assess what the real problem is and what we need to do to make the car a car again.
Old 07-09-2019, 09:41 PM
  #17  
Super Member
 
KevinH2000's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Richmond, VA Metro Area
Posts: 905
Received 133 Likes on 124 Posts
2005 C230 Sport Sedan-6 Speed Manual
Please post pictures with your updates. It will help the “armchair mechanics” enjoy the experience vicariously.
Old 07-10-2019, 10:01 AM
  #18  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Ben Peterson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Boise
Posts: 27
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
2012 VW GTI, 2005 c230k
Originally Posted by KevinH2000
Please post pictures with your updates. It will help the “armchair mechanics” enjoy the experience vicariously.
Yes, I am working on something like that, but it definitely won’t be a tutorial or instructional at all. Lukas has gotten so much done when I’m not around I’ve missed quite a bit of the process.

The motor is down to the block now. Pistons are either out or about to be pulled. I gave up at 11pm last night, we had just removed the oil pan and I could hardly keep my eyes open.
Old 07-11-2019, 09:24 AM
  #19  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Ben Peterson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Boise
Posts: 27
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
2012 VW GTI, 2005 c230k
So it looks like the timing chain came loose and interfered with piston 1. Definitely need a new head. I’ll grab some photos of the head it’s quite fascinating.
Everythin else is lookin good though.
Need to call the junkyards and see if they have a car I can pull a head from. While I’m there I’m looking for a used trunk break light cover and a side marker cover too.
Old 07-11-2019, 06:36 PM
  #20  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Ben Peterson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Boise
Posts: 27
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
2012 VW GTI, 2005 c230k
Here’s a short vid I put together to document the process. By no means a “how to” or tutorial video.


Hope you enjoy.
Old 07-11-2019, 08:16 PM
  #21  
Super Member
 
KevinH2000's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Richmond, VA Metro Area
Posts: 905
Received 133 Likes on 124 Posts
2005 C230 Sport Sedan-6 Speed Manual
https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...ine-apart.html

You may find this thread helpful
Old 07-18-2019, 11:51 PM
  #22  
Newbie
 
realw203trent's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: California
Posts: 12
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
2005 C230 Kompressor
I am so happy someone has another "build" thread. A while ago someone had a 2003 C240 that they bought in pretty bad condition, and were restoring it. Sadly after getting it in pretty good condition, they sold it so thread went dead. I was enjoying it, and I hope this one is as good or better than that one! Good luck!

Edit: Changed the car model, remembered it was a C240. Here's the thread in case anyone wants to read what I was referring to: https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...0-into-dd.html

Last edited by realw203trent; 07-18-2019 at 11:55 PM.
Old 07-19-2019, 08:00 AM
  #23  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Ben Peterson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Boise
Posts: 27
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
2012 VW GTI, 2005 c230k
Here’s an update:

i should be ordering the replacement head head this weekend. Found one in Germany for a few hundo. Once that gets here off to the machine shop for a hone and cleaning, head and block.

Definitely researching the tranny cooler, and trying to figure out which radiator I have.
The goal is to be complete before next month, we will see how long that head takes to get here.

I’m happy people are enjoying the thread.
Old 07-22-2019, 09:30 AM
  #24  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Ben Peterson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Boise
Posts: 27
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
2012 VW GTI, 2005 c230k
Got the head paid for now we wait for delivery.
Old 07-26-2019, 09:33 AM
  #25  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Ben Peterson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Boise
Posts: 27
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
2012 VW GTI, 2005 c230k
Head arrived totally damaged and no valves! Currently talking with the seller in Germany. Frustrating for sure.

Last edited by Ben Peterson; 07-26-2019 at 10:33 AM.


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.

Quick Reply: Project daily driver 2005 c230



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:20 PM.