If you do some mods does it void your warrenty on the car? if I have a problem and take it in will they bust my chops if I have put on a new pully system?

 

search the forum. you shall get your answer that way.... also just apply a little common sense.

 

Just remember when you search that the correct spelling is "warranty"

 

According to my service rep, any mods you do voids that part of your car. Aftermarket pads = brake system voided (including anti-lock system); aftermarket springs = suspension voided (shocks, sways, alignment, etc.); aftermarket pulley = voided engine (internals, probably tranny too). If you're close to the end of your warranty, I'd recommend waiting until it's over.

 

Close..but a little off...The dealership has to prove that the aftermarket part you installed was the direct cause or a major factor that caused the malfuction in question..

(Personal experience )

 

They have to prove it, but do you want to go up against a MB dealer and MB themself? Its not a fun task as Ive seen from a number of people who have been denied their powertrain warranties from doing things like pullies, chips, ecu tweaks, etc.

Know the possibilities, and always have enough cash set aside to fit the part you are modding. This is why I dont touch the engine with mods anymore.

 

Exactly - you can argue with them until you're blue in the face, but if they say that they're not going to honor your warranty, you'd have to take them to court.

Basically, if you're asking this question, you're probably better off leaving it stock until the warranty's over. I've only got 2k until I'm done my warranty, then it's a Renntech pulley for me.

 

thats why most of my mods are OEM parts. if the mod breaks, ill buy a new one.

granted i do have a few aftermarket items installed.

 

A dealer or manufacturer has no authority to deny a warranty on a motor for any reason, it's against the Clean Air Act and the FTC has a department to address this and the dealer and manfacturer could be fined by the FTC for non-compliance. If it's determined that the part caused the damage, the manufacturer, not the dealer, not you, is reponsible for getting compensated by the 3rd party manufacturer of that part. The parts do have to meet federal EPA standards. So even if you put a K&N filter on, and it damages your MAF as some people claim, they can not void any part of your warranty, MB must sue K&N if they want to be compensated.

 

interesting. knowing that, i'd seriously consider a pulley for my car. is there even one out for the 1.8's though.

 

I have been looking on line at work there are many different companies and system for the 230 and the 320. Just use www.kartoo.com and search for the pulleys for c230 mercedes. It should produces some sites.

 

are those for the M111 engine or the M171?

 

try this site. It will help. http://www.rpmoutlet.com/aspimp.htm#mer

 

here is instructions how to do it. http://www.benzforum.com/howtos/docs...leyInstall.pdf

 

Does ASP sell the alternator underdrive also? I personally would've liked the Kleeman boost kit, comes with badging as well, but now it's discontinued...

 

ernster, from that site it looks like those are for the M111 engine.

 

i will continue looking and will find out some info for you. I am also looking for when my new 320 gets here. I hope I find some stuff. I will let you know

 

thanks! i heard some company is developing a pulley for the M171 engine. id consider being a test subject if they are still looking for one.

 

But thats where the small print on the aftermarket companies disclaimer comes into play...(i.e. 'for off-road, show use only" and "liability is limited to actual refund or replacement of part and we are not liabile for any loss or damage caused directly or indirectly by the use of this product"...blah,blah,blah....

Buell, if what you say is true, tech. I could go cheap.. use tap water for my coolant and oil supply..ruin my engine and claim it under what you said...

Doesn't sound right since I would think Mercedes would have a lot of blown engine cases right at the 49,999 mile mark :p

 

Sure, some manufacturers like Renntech do put these type of disclaimers on their sales receipt, just don't do business with any company that makes this sort of disclaimer, they are doing it solely to get out of their obligation and not to help you. ASP on the otherhand has no such disclaimer and their risk is mitigated with insurance rather than legal means. Also I would think that if you didn't follow the manufacturers recomended maintenance and put water instead of oil in the engine that there are disclaimers in the owners manual to that effect. I'm not saying that the law is 100% on your side, it's main objective was to force car companies to fix cars under the smog portion of your warranty regardless of any epa legal mods.

 

doesnt mb have a contract with some companies like Renntech or kleeman so we can do these upgrades without worrying about it? Like i think bmw and dinan have a contract.

 

The only company that has this sort of agreement that MB would admit to is Brabus. Even then there are limitations in that Brabus must do the work, so if you buy a Brabus gizmo and your dealer installs it, that doesn't count.

 

What exactly does the pully give in terms of performance.

 

More power.

 

Actually, this isn't entirely correct. The provisions enforced by the FTC are the Magnusson Moss Warranty Act (15 USC 2302(c) for you lawyers out there). The act essentially says the manufacturer cannot void your warranty for a particular problem UNLESS the problem is caused by the aftermarket product. The EPA only gets involved after you have exhausted all other remedies and the problem stems from an emissions related part, and again it only applies if the aftermarket product didn't cause the problem (Clean Air Act 42 USC 7541 C3b).
So your warranty can most certainly be voided legally by the manufacturer under certain circumstances. If you have a problem, it becomes a fight between you and the dealer, MB, etc. to prove that your aftermarket part didn't cause the part failure.
If the aftermarket product did cause the problem, your rights are against the aftermarket manufacturer and whatever warranty they gave you -- MB has no obligation to go directly to the aftermarket company at this point (after all, you are the one who put on the aftermarket part).