C-Class (W203) 2001-2007, C160, C180, C200, C220, C230, C240, C270, C280, C300, C320, C230K, C350, Coupe

I think we should have a monthly member dealer service report. What do you think?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old Aug 7, 2004 | 08:40 PM
  #26  
CitronC230K_03's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 7,737
Likes: 1
From: San Diego, Ca
2003 Citron Green C230KMT
Originally Posted by miroj
Which is more stupid, a lousy dealer or a customer that goes there twice.

screw me once, shame on you.
screw me twice, shame on me!
Reply
Old Aug 7, 2004 | 08:50 PM
  #27  
Anaheim_Drew's Avatar
Thread Starter
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 1,304
Likes: 0
From: Anaheim California
2001 C320ss, 2005 Ford F150 Supercrew, GSXR,
Originally Posted by miroj
Which is more stupid, a lousy dealer or a customer that goes there twice.
Trick question...
Why? Because if you took a poll of people who had problems at the stealership, got them resolved and asked if they would or have gone back. It would be over 80%. HOI is a prime example. People get mad, get the issue resolved and go back.
Reply
Old Aug 7, 2004 | 08:53 PM
  #28  
CitronC230K_03's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 7,737
Likes: 1
From: San Diego, Ca
2003 Citron Green C230KMT
thats true, plus there is only so far people are willing to drive until they give in. even in so cal where there are a bunch of MB dealers.
Reply
Old Aug 7, 2004 | 09:48 PM
  #29  
miroj's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 1,194
Likes: 1
From: Australia
Originally Posted by Anaheim_Drew
Trick question...
Why? Because if you took a poll of people who had problems at the stealership, got them resolved and asked if they would or have gone back. It would be over 80%. HOI is a prime example. People get mad, get the issue resolved and go back.

I tend to think most people hold some kind of high expectation that can never be met in this day and age.

Given the chance to buy and drive a 1950's Mercedes you would certainly appreciate the advances more readily and perhaps be more accepting of the fact that highly advanced cars require more attention.

Far too many of the complaints I read here are overinflated. It may require advice from Germany to resolve an issue and that isnt going to happen in one day.

It would be interesting to hear what the dealer says ?
Reply
Old Aug 7, 2004 | 09:59 PM
  #30  
Anaheim_Drew's Avatar
Thread Starter
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 1,304
Likes: 0
From: Anaheim California
2001 C320ss, 2005 Ford F150 Supercrew, GSXR,
Originally Posted by miroj
I tend to think most people hold some kind of high expectation that can never be met in this day and age.

Far too many of the complaints I read here are overinflated. It
It would be interesting to hear what the dealer says ?
I don't agree.
I myself want the same respect and attention I received prior to my sales deal being closed. Before the dealership received my money. More customers are disrespected by dealership employees than their employees by customers.

Last edited by Anaheim_Drew; Aug 8, 2004 at 06:12 AM.
Reply
Old Aug 7, 2004 | 10:03 PM
  #31  
miroj's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 1,194
Likes: 1
From: Australia
Originally Posted by Anaheim_Drew
I don't agree.
I myself want the same respect, kiss *** high quality of customer service I received before they got my money. More so if I have a service problem that I did not cause.
Kiss *** ? You sure pick them dont you ....... if someone was like that to me I would just assume it was for my money only.
Reply
Old Aug 7, 2004 | 10:16 PM
  #32  
Anaheim_Drew's Avatar
Thread Starter
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 1,304
Likes: 0
From: Anaheim California
2001 C320ss, 2005 Ford F150 Supercrew, GSXR,
Originally Posted by miroj
Kiss *** ? You sure pick them dont you ....... if someone was like that to me I would just assume it was for my money only.
Well what else do you have that a salesman at a stealership would want? Your friendship Your assumption would be right. Money!!!!!!!!!! We are not talking about relationships....
Reply
Old Aug 7, 2004 | 10:38 PM
  #33  
amdeutsch's Avatar
Administrator
MBWorld Ambassador

Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 15,769
Likes: 37
From: www.Traben-Trarbach.de
MPG+ ROLFCOPTER
Originally Posted by miroj
Which is more stupid, a lousy dealer or a customer that goes there twice.
And how many stealership are there in your town? Does that mean that after you refuse to go back you will drive out of town, for hours possibly, to get to the next one. From the posts in this thread I can see some members only having 1 in their town.
Reply
MB World Stories

The Best of Mercedes & AMG

story-0

6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

10 Most Reliable Mercedes-Benz Models You Can Buy Used

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Aug 7, 2004 | 11:07 PM
  #34  
miroj's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 1,194
Likes: 1
From: Australia
Originally Posted by Anaheim_Drew
Well what else do you have that a salesman at a stealership would want? Your friendship Your assumption would be right. Money!!!!!!!!!! We are not talking about relationships....
So why get emotional then. Business is business. Stick with the facts and the dealer will always help you.
Reply
Old Aug 7, 2004 | 11:12 PM
  #35  
miroj's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 1,194
Likes: 1
From: Australia
Originally Posted by amdeutsch
And how many stealership are there in your town? Does that mean that after you refuse to go back you will drive out of town, for hours possibly, to get to the next one. From the posts in this thread I can see some members only having 1 in their town.
Around me there are about 12, the closest is 15 minutes drive and the furthest 60 minutes. Average is 30 minutes.

So I guess I get about 11 attempts at being city bound (since the first one is where I bought the car), then there are another 20 in the out of town districts.

The closest OEM parts place is 4 minutes drive.

I feel quite happy with the service I already get - it costs me a bottle of Bourbon once in a while but the job always gets done. I hate to think what happens to the car that gets worked on after I leave.

" Parsh me da shhhpanar "
Reply
Old Aug 8, 2004 | 12:53 AM
  #36  
Kev04C320's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 4,330
Likes: 0
From: Seattle, WA
'09 911 C4S
Originally Posted by miroj
Which is more stupid, a lousy dealer or a customer that goes there twice.
That's the only MB dealer in town, no other choice, period. I'll probably get my next car through one those internet deal next time.

Last edited by Kev04C320; Aug 8, 2004 at 12:55 AM.
Reply
Old Aug 8, 2004 | 01:00 AM
  #37  
Kev04C320's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 4,330
Likes: 0
From: Seattle, WA
'09 911 C4S
Originally Posted by amdeutsch
And how many stealership are there in your town? Does that mean that after you refuse to go back you will drive out of town, for hours possibly, to get to the next one. From the posts in this thread I can see some members only having 1 in their town.
That's exactly my situation. There is only one so called European car dealership in town. I have to drive 160 miles round trip to get to second closest dealer.
Reply
Old Aug 8, 2004 | 01:09 AM
  #38  
JeT's Avatar
JeT
Super Member
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 784
Likes: 0
From: Brisbane/Sydney, Australia
Originally Posted by amdeutsch
And how many stealership are there in your town? Does that mean that after you refuse to go back you will drive out of town, for hours possibly, to get to the next one. From the posts in this thread I can see some members only having 1 in their town.
So what is the point of making a complaint about a sales person looking at you the wrong way if you have to go back to that dealership anyway?!
Reply
Old Aug 8, 2004 | 01:10 AM
  #39  
Kev04C320's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 4,330
Likes: 0
From: Seattle, WA
'09 911 C4S
I don't know if you guys get the point or not. If there is enough pressure, the stealership will have to clean up its act.
Reply
Old Aug 8, 2004 | 01:11 AM
  #40  
Anaheim_Drew's Avatar
Thread Starter
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 1,304
Likes: 0
From: Anaheim California
2001 C320ss, 2005 Ford F150 Supercrew, GSXR,
Originally Posted by miroj
So why get emotional then. Business is business. Stick with the facts and the dealer will always help you.
Not getting emotional is good advice, FOR A VULCAN ON STAR TREK!! As for sticking with the facts, always.......... the dealer helping you ..........ok ... but the end result is the issue.

And I don't have a service place that will accept bourbon as a tip for doing a good job on my car.
Reply
Old Aug 8, 2004 | 01:14 AM
  #41  
miroj's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 1,194
Likes: 1
From: Australia
Originally Posted by Kev04C320
I don't know if you guys get the point or not. If there is enough pressure, the stealership will have to clean up its act.
Pressure ? You dont put pressure on your dealer by bad mouthing them in public. They have every right to take out a restraining order on you and prevent your car from being serviced at the dealership pending any outcomes of legal action - which can be stalled so it takes no less than the period of car ownership.

You must think that throwing mud is some kind of scare tactic.
Reply
Old Aug 8, 2004 | 01:16 AM
  #42  
JeT's Avatar
JeT
Super Member
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 784
Likes: 0
From: Brisbane/Sydney, Australia
Originally Posted by Kev04C320
I don't know if you guys get the point or not. If there is enough pressure, the stealership will have to clean up its act.
Well, all I can say, there appears to be a big difference in expectations between Australians and Americans...not saying it is a bad thing - just different. I can't see anyone here getting upset if they cannot pay by a certain cheque for example. Possibly it could be that the standard of service in Australia is generally much higher.
Reply
Old Aug 8, 2004 | 01:16 AM
  #43  
miroj's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 1,194
Likes: 1
From: Australia
Originally Posted by Anaheim_Drew
Not getting emotional is good advice, FOR A VULCAN ON STAR TREK!! As for sticking with the facts, always.......... the dealer helping you ..........ok ... but the end result is the issue.

And I don't have a service place that will accept bourbon as a tip for doing a good job on my car.
You will be surprised how many people at dealerships earn the basic level of income without tips. I dont know your style of interaction but I know every person at my dealership. From the Managers down to the guy that washes my car.

If you were any one of those people dont you think a bit of gratitude would get noticed.
Reply
Old Aug 8, 2004 | 01:20 AM
  #44  
miroj's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 1,194
Likes: 1
From: Australia
Originally Posted by JeT
Well, all I can say, there appears to be a big difference in expectations between Australians and Americans...not saying it is a bad thing - just different. I can't see anyone here getting upset if they cannot pay by a certain cheque for example. Possibly it could be that the standard of service in Australia is generally much higher.
I would have to say that the experience of service in Australia is nothing as traumatic as some of the stories I have read about in the USA (well one side of the story at least)

Maybe it has something to do with the fact that most of the staff (about 75%) drive company Benz cars to and from work. They know the cars, they use the cars and they have an idea of what they are working on as mechanics and selling as salespeople.

In my experience I found that the least capable Benz people were the ones that had no interest in owning or driving a Mercedes. To them it was just another job.

Its amazing what comes out in conversations with people and how vastly different attitudes are.
Reply
Old Aug 8, 2004 | 01:23 AM
  #45  
Anaheim_Drew's Avatar
Thread Starter
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 1,304
Likes: 0
From: Anaheim California
2001 C320ss, 2005 Ford F150 Supercrew, GSXR,
Originally Posted by JeT
Well, all I can say, there appears to be a big difference in expectations between Australians and Americans...not saying it is a bad thing - just different. I can't see anyone here getting upset if they cannot pay by a certain cheque for example. Possibly it could be that the standard of service in Australia is generally much higher.
But lets say that it was your mum, who had paid with that check before and now they would not let her have her car. That would not upset her? Even though she can use a credit card or another check type what about the principal of the matter?
Reply
Old Aug 8, 2004 | 01:25 AM
  #46  
Kev04C320's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 4,330
Likes: 0
From: Seattle, WA
'09 911 C4S
Originally Posted by miroj
Pressure ? You dont put pressure on your dealer by bad mouthing them in public. They have every right to take out a restraining order on you and prevent your car from being serviced at the dealership pending any outcomes of legal action - which can be stalled so it takes no less than the period of car ownership.

You must think that throwing mud is some kind of scare tactic.
A restraining order based on what grounds? I would like hear some legal advice if you were a barrister-at-law. Thank you in advance
Reply
Old Aug 8, 2004 | 01:25 AM
  #47  
Anaheim_Drew's Avatar
Thread Starter
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 1,304
Likes: 0
From: Anaheim California
2001 C320ss, 2005 Ford F150 Supercrew, GSXR,
Originally Posted by miroj
You will be surprised how many people at dealerships earn the basic level of income without tips. I dont know your style of interaction but I know every person at my dealership. From the Managers down to the guy that washes my car.

If you were any one of those people dont you think a bit of gratitude would get noticed.
Not the point. I tip people very well. Mainly those who make a small income, you brought up the bourbon issue which is what I was comenting on.
Reply
Old Aug 8, 2004 | 01:28 AM
  #48  
Kev04C320's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 4,330
Likes: 0
From: Seattle, WA
'09 911 C4S
Originally Posted by Anaheim_Drew
Not the point. I tip people very well. Mainly those who make a small income, you brought up the bourbon issue which is what I was comenting on.
Drew,

Are you supposed to tip someone at the service center? I grew up in a different culture so I know nothing about how to tip until I was 17.5
Reply
Old Aug 8, 2004 | 01:32 AM
  #49  
miroj's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 1,194
Likes: 1
From: Australia
Originally Posted by Kev04C320
A restraining order based on what grounds? I would like hear some legal advice if you were a barrister-at-law. Thank you in advance
Your internet postings are kept in archive FOREVER by Google and Alta-Vista. At any point in time when it becomes known to the party in question they may claim injury to their reputation, slander, false advertising and breech of contract (the one you signed when you bought the car - read the fine print).

On these ground they may take out an injunction preventing you from making any comments or engaging in any ongoing transaction with the company without settlement and retraction.

You can push people around but sooner or later someone bigger than you will push back.
Reply
Old Aug 8, 2004 | 01:32 AM
  #50  
JeT's Avatar
JeT
Super Member
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 784
Likes: 0
From: Brisbane/Sydney, Australia
Originally Posted by Anaheim_Drew
But lets say that it was your mum, who had paid with that check before and now they would not let her have her car. That would not upset her? Even though she can use a credit card or another check type what about the principal of the matter?
No, would not even be an issue mainly because, as you state, she has alternative methods of payment. And again, as I have said - different expectations...To an Australian this would not be a matter of principle. We will have to agree to disagree on this one.
Reply


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:56 AM.

story-0
6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)

Slideshow: Not every Mercedes design becomes timeless, some feel stuck in the era they came from.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:09:07


VIEW MORE
story-1
Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun

Slideshow: Yes, Mercedes built manual cars, and some of them are far more interesting than you'd expect.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-02 12:36:58


VIEW MORE
story-2
Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren

Slideshow: A one-of-one U.S.-spec Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren Roadster became even rarer after a factory-backed transformation at McLaren's headquarters.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 11:19:28


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

Slideshow: Before curves took over, Mercedes mastered the art of the straight line, and some of those shapes still look right today.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-25 12:05:49


VIEW MORE
story-4
Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction

Slideshow: The 190E Evolution II shows how a homologation necessity became a six-figure collector icon.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-22 17:53:47


VIEW MORE
story-5
Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know

Slideshow: Mercedes is turning one of its core nameplates electric, and the details show just how serious this shift is.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:58:06


VIEW MORE
story-6
Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know

Slideshow: Faster charging, longer range, and a controversial steer-by-wire system define the latest evolution of Mercedes-Benz EQS.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-15 10:35:34


VIEW MORE
story-7
5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve

Slideshow: These overlooked Mercedes-Benz models never got the spotlight, but they quietly delivered more than most remember.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-13 19:35:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping

Slideshow: A well-used 1991 Mercedes-Benz 300D with more than one million miles is now looking for a new owner, and it still appears ready for more.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-10 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Most Reliable Mercedes-Benz Models You Can Buy Used

Slideshow: From bulletproof sedans to surprisingly tough SUVs, these Mercedes models proved that the three-pointed star can go the distance.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-08 09:55:49


VIEW MORE