Mr. Narcissus:

The scale model sub has a complete and independant ballast system. This allows the model to work exactly as a normal submarine does.

In R/C submarine modeling there are 2 major methods used: 1.- static and 2.- dynamic. "Dynamic" refers as diving using the propolsion (propellers) while the R/C model submarine is moving forward and the diving plates down to force to submerge. The down side to this is the model submarine will surface back up if the propellers stop. Also, that is NOT how real submarines work . The static system is the true system as used by submarines which use what is called "ballast" system (tanks) that in order to remain on the surface are full of air and filled with water to allow the sub to dive... regading ballasts in the R/C modeling world, there are different "flavors" as to how to approach it... using CO2 is one for force water or air in and out of the ballast tanks (this will limit the ammount of dives you have, as you will be using a CO2 tank... when you run out of the gas, your sub will reamin submerged!!... --that is not soo good --), using actual ballast tanks with a piston that compresses the air/water and and out of the tank (that will give you endless dives without worry... --now you have to worry about batery life to operate your sub!!!... omg!! and the list goes.. blah, blah... --)

The Submarine project took about 6 to 8 months of solid research, then about 6 months of construction .

The leds I purchased was from the Engel company in Germany . I don't know if they have shops here in the USA... . The kit contains hundreds of LEDs of mostly all sizes... that is the same the other member did...



Mr. amdeutsch:

LOL, hmmm...sure!!! ... you are THA MAN!

Cheers!

Wiedermann

 

IMHO
That is not a very good price on that kit if it cost over 100 dollars. Even though I buy I buy my LEDS wholesale you can easily find 100 packs of ultra-bright Ultra-voilet LED's(the most expensive kind I know of) for 6 to 10 bucks. The cheap Ultra-violet LED 500 packs at about the same price. Blue's arent the cheapest but they are not the most expensive. Yellow and amber being the cheapest close to that would be green and red, then blue, then Infa-red, then white, and then UV. I am not sure how much there is in that kit but if you only need 170 parts including resistors and everything.

I am not saying the kit is a bad price and I definately would use the extra up in a couple days or a few but, that is definatly not the best deal. Me being the cheap-skate that I am I would rather buy the exact parts with maybe one or two extra for probably close to half the price.

Just my Opinion.

 

Wiedermann, Narcissus or anyone. Have you completed the LED conversion on your cars? I have an 04 CLK 500 that lights blue in the instrument cluster but amber in the center stack. I understand from a previous post that this is a tough job but am wondering if an electronics shop can do it for me especially since I only require the center stack done (non-command).

Thanks in advance

 

Mr. RJC

I've have not been interested in replacing all the LEDs to blue in my car. If you followed the thread, the links and so forth, there are several guys that did the work. Pics of the LED kit were also posted in within the information that was provided with the links on the first pages. Costs??? also posted and have been much discussed. The LED kit is sold in Europe however, there must be companies in the USA that would sell the same LED kit... they are just a bunch of lights.

Cheers!

Wiedermann

 

You seemed to have quite alot to contribute in the thread so I thought you might know alot more about this than most and I asumed you might have attempted the conversion, sorry.

I'm hoping to hear back from ANYONE in the US that has completed this, and as I mentioned, in an 04 CLK there is much less to be done since the instrument cluster is lit in blue from the factory.

Does anyone know how difficult it is to access the bulbs and LEDs in the radio and climate controls. Can anyone recommend an electronics shop in the S Fl area that can help.

Thanks again.

 

Mr. RJC:

No prob!... actually I just felt kinda bad that I had not been able to check on the board in the last past few days, so my apologies for the delay in the response.

In the original thread which comes from another MB forum, the person who did the work was the actual owner of the car. He took it upon himself to do the entire conversion which took him about 10 days (2 weeks basically).

The main areas of concern where the overhead lamp located in the headliner. The rest, like the AC switch, etc are easily accessible, as you remove the panels out of the gear shift center console, etc, you will see the light bulbs are right there exposed. When the Partronik retrofit was done on my C32, I got the chance to see all the components removed from the center console and got the chance to see the light bulbs in that area. The same would apply for the dashboard. lights... the rest of the lights such in doors, light switches, etc etc were the least diff in the "difficult" category list.

I am not aware of anyone in the US that has done this conversion. There was another member of this forum that lives in NoCal that was very interested in the project.. then all the sudden he disappeared in cyber space .

Cheers

Wiedermann

 

Weidermann:

Thanks for the reply and the encouraging info. I would be pleased to just change the a/c, radio and upper rocker switches, the windows switches can stay "the lovely color of amber". In the CLK the climate conrol is digital but all the buttons are lighted with bulbs as you indicated, if all the buttons in the radio and ac were blue along with the rocker switches I think it would look much better than stock and I would leave the LED in the radio and ac alone.
I don't know why the gentleman in Germany wanted to change the overhead lamp, does it add light to the console in the C's?

Does this sound doable with out much ado?

Thanks,

 

sieht echt fett aus!!!

 

Anyone with good soldiering and knows the difference from a cathode and anode can change the led's out. This is not the problem though. You would have to remove lots of items to get to Led's Door panels, center dash to get to upper switch row, overhead panel, etc... Then you have to take apart the switches to get to the LED's. This is not an easy task. I can gurantee that if you try to take apart the center switch row, you will have some broken tabs. If someone want's blue center swith row, let me know as I have a spare that I can install blue led's on if the price is right. It's very time consuming. The center switch row alone has 11 LED's.

 

Mr. RJC:

You are mostly welcome!. Definitely the work is doable. When the issue of the blue lights was discussed, the guy that did the entire job wanted anything that was in amber to be in blue color.. so as Mr Sunman said, there are lots, LOTS of LEDs to replace... not to count that it is NOT easy to get to them... in the overhead console near the sunroof, there are some swiches that are illuminated in amber that he also replaced... again, he made EVERYTHING that was amber to blue

Like Mr Sunman said:
My take would be for you to contact Mr Sunman, pay the price and have it your way... better of... if the price and time is right, have Mr Sunman himself help you, maybe another flight over to install Mr Sunman???... kidding man...

Cheers!

Wiedermann

 

This is so sweet

 

Such a nice setup.

 

I would like to do that in white

 

This has been discussed about 100 million times. Not only is it extremely difficult (if not impossible because sunman decided against it), but it would take forever. Search around to read the numerous rejections to this idea. It would be cool, but it isn't possible.

 

why'd you have to start a new thread about this C230_617, er WestlyBenz?

it's funny how you're interested in it and C230_617 was really interested in it as well:
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...t=blue+LED%27s

but, it looks like you somewhat learned to be stealth by not resurrecting old threads that you were in, but rather starting a new one.

 

phil, you crack me up.
nowadays if your not posting about your m3, your catching this guy c230_617.
your damn fast at it too.
just had to let you know. thanks.

 

phil, will you be my PI? i'm actually looking for one (no joke).

 

WELCOME TO LAST WEEK DUDE, or last year??

 

I don't want to be nosey (maybe I do) but I'm intrigued, may I ask why you need a PI?

 

WTF? Is this forum getting wierder every day or is it just my imagination? Is C230K_617 back in his original form?

 

LMAO. This is very interesting.

 

Why don't you just change your cluster to one that has blue lighting? The factory 01-04 cluster is so ugly

 

Question, what year / model does the cluster change, and is that something that needs to be re-wired ?

 

05+

 

You can't put the 05 cluster in your car. You can put a W209 cluster in. That's what I did. It looks 100x better than the 01-04 cluster, and 10x better than the 05+ cluster.