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same as BIX set up! i used 2057 for my front indicators because i couldnt find 2357 in sylvania silver stars. they work fine. i compared the base of the 2057 and 2357 and they look exactly the same and both are dual filament.
the reason i went with silver stars up front was because PY21W WILL NOT work in 2357 socket. PY21W is single filament, 2357 is dual. you will get a bulb out warning, front indiactor will not flash, and indicators will flash twice as fast. i already tried. so im using the silver stars and like i sai before im really pleased with the way they look in the BIX indicator housing.
the reason i went with silver stars up front was because PY21W WILL NOT work in 2357 socket. PY21W is single filament, 2357 is dual. you will get a bulb out warning, front indiactor will not flash, and indicators will flash twice as fast. i already tried. so im using the silver stars and like i sai before im really pleased with the way they look in the BIX indicator housing.
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Originally Posted by CitronC230K_03
same as BIX set up! i used 2057 for my front indicators because i couldnt find 2357 in sylvania silver stars. they work fine. i compared the base of the 2057 and 2357 and they look exactly the same and both are dual filament.
the reason i went with silver stars up front was because PY21W WILL NOT work in 2357 socket. PY21W is single filament, 2357 is dual. you will get a bulb out warning, front indiactor will not flash, and indicators will flash twice as fast. i already tried. so im using the silver stars and like i sai before im really pleased with the way they look in the BIX indicator housing.
the reason i went with silver stars up front was because PY21W WILL NOT work in 2357 socket. PY21W is single filament, 2357 is dual. you will get a bulb out warning, front indiactor will not flash, and indicators will flash twice as fast. i already tried. so im using the silver stars and like i sai before im really pleased with the way they look in the BIX indicator housing.
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no, the light doesnt look less bright at all, IMO, without a side by side comparison. side by side i think you'll notice a slight difference. plus the housings as you know are clear for the most part so the light is not obstructed by those "foggy" type lenses.
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Originally Posted by CitronC230K_03
no, the light doesnt look less bright at all, IMO, without a side by side comparison. side by side i think you'll notice a slight difference. plus the housings as you know are clear for the most part so the light is not obstructed by those "foggy" type lenses.
According to the spec table I have, 1157 should be a suitable replacement for 2357, plus it appears the 1157 should be a bit brighter than the 2057. I'm going to try Sylvania Silverstar 1157's and see how they work.
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Thanks for all the input. With all said and done.
I ordered :
Philips Silver Vision PY21W (Rear)
But for the front's I am going to wait on to see if the 1157's work. In the time, I am going to see if I can find some white signals, instead of amber. If I can't then most likly go with the Sylvania Silverstart 2057's.
I ordered :
Philips Silver Vision PY21W (Rear)
But for the front's I am going to wait on to see if the 1157's work. In the time, I am going to see if I can find some white signals, instead of amber. If I can't then most likly go with the Sylvania Silverstart 2057's.
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Originally Posted by DiamondNoir2K5
Those Sylvania Silverstars look good. I have a set of Stealth Auto bulbs right now, but the brightness seems to be noticebly less. I think it is because of the way the Stealth bulbs are silver coated. It looks like the transluscent blue coating on the Sylvania's would allow more light to pass through.
According to the spec table I have, 1157 should be a suitable replacement for 2357, plus it appears the 1157 should be a bit brighter than the 2057. I'm going to try Sylvania Silverstar 1157's and see how they work.
According to the spec table I have, 1157 should be a suitable replacement for 2357, plus it appears the 1157 should be a bit brighter than the 2057. I'm going to try Sylvania Silverstar 1157's and see how they work.
from what ive researched:
However physical dimensions (but not electrical specs) of the #1157, #2057, and (BMW OEM) #7528 are IDENTICAL and INTERCHANGEABLE.
also on the spec chart i looked at, it reads the 1157 and 2057 are the same with exception to filament size.
http://faq.f650.com/FAQs/BrakeLight.htm
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Originally Posted by wingless
Thanks for the information.
Stealth Auto (310) 474-3834 will not have the 2357A bulbs for 5 weeks. They are $29.95 and shipping is currently free.
Stealth Auto (310) 474-3834 will not have the 2357A bulbs for 5 weeks. They are $29.95 and shipping is currently free.
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Stealth Auto is now saying that they will ship 2357A bulbs in January.
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I have two new Sylvania SilverStar Turn signal bulb that I just recently got and decide not to use it because one's actually orange and the other is yellow. Still if someone wants it let me know...$10 bucks and it's yours. The bulbs are for the foggy style 203 lights. 1156A bulb I think.
Or if anyone in LA area's got a pair of fairly newe uneven colored Sylvania 1156A bulbs and want to trade, let me know.
Or if anyone in LA area's got a pair of fairly newe uneven colored Sylvania 1156A bulbs and want to trade, let me know.
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Originally Posted by DiamondNoir2K5
I couldn't believe it either, but the Stealth Auto 1156 bulbs I got would not work in the front indicator sockets of my '05 halogen set.
I looked at the factory installed amber bulb. It has two filaments. The 1156 is a single filament bulb. So obviously, the 1156 will not work since it is going to be drawing less power than a dual-filament bulb.
On the base of the factory bulb, 2357 is imprinted. I looked it up, 2357 is a newer, higher amperage (and brighter) version of the 1157 bulb, which in turn is a two-filament version of the 1156 bulb.
So what you need for your front indicators is 2357. Unfortunately, after much looking around, it does not look like anyone is making silver coated 2357 bulbs yet.
I looked at the factory installed amber bulb. It has two filaments. The 1156 is a single filament bulb. So obviously, the 1156 will not work since it is going to be drawing less power than a dual-filament bulb.
On the base of the factory bulb, 2357 is imprinted. I looked it up, 2357 is a newer, higher amperage (and brighter) version of the 1157 bulb, which in turn is a two-filament version of the 1156 bulb.
So what you need for your front indicators is 2357. Unfortunately, after much looking around, it does not look like anyone is making silver coated 2357 bulbs yet.
Originally Posted by wingless
Stealth Auto is now saying that they will ship 2357A bulbs in January.
Originally Posted by DiamondNoir2K5
No need to wait. Just get 1157A Sylvania SilverStars. I have them in my car now and they look and work great. Plus they are brighter than the Stealth Autos.
Or, according to your information, they are brighter than the single filament Stealth Auto 1156 bulb? But, your information stated that that bulb did not work. Did that mean that even though it illuminated, the vehicle reported a lamp failure?
And according to your information, the 1156 is a single filament version of the 1157 and the 2357A is a brighter version of the 1157.
Does the hallogen front turn signal in your '05, use the same bulb as the Xenon lamp assembly in my '05?
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Could someone recommend a bulb that would fit in the back side of the side mirrors?
I'm not sure how to figure out what stealth auto bulbs I need. I was thinking of calling stealth auto but since it's Sunday I don't think they are open.
I'm not sure how to figure out what stealth auto bulbs I need. I was thinking of calling stealth auto but since it's Sunday I don't think they are open.
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Originally Posted by CitronC230K_03
you want a clear look? like clear LED's? why dont you get 2005 W203 mirror indicators or W211 indicators.
where can i get more info?
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This Sport Sedan has the clear mirror turn indicators, available from any MB dealership parts department.
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W211 indicators look great and they would match the clear side markers. All I'd nees are some stealth bulds and viola.
Do have you any pictures of the 2005 W203 indicators?
Also do you have the part numbers for the lenses and the stealth bulbs?
Originally Posted by CitronC230K_03
personally i like the W211 indicators better than the 2005 W203 indicators. just me.
Also do you have the part numbers for the lenses and the stealth bulbs?
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Originally Posted by BeaverMjr
W211 indicators look great and they would match the clear side markers. All I'd nees are some stealth bulds and viola.
Do have you any pictures of the 2005 W203 indicators?
Also do you have the part numbers for the lenses and the stealth bulbs?
Do have you any pictures of the 2005 W203 indicators?
Also do you have the part numbers for the lenses and the stealth bulbs?
here are pics of the 2005 W203 indicators on Saprissa's coupe.
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I like the 2005 look better and that's why I went with that.
Doug: By the way, the Silver Stars that you sent me works like a charm! Thanks. Now I have to wait for Steve to come back to pimp even more.
Doug: By the way, the Silver Stars that you sent me works like a charm! Thanks. Now I have to wait for Steve to come back to pimp even more.
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glad to hear they worked out for you. i figured they did since you didnt seem to have any complaints.
i want steve to pimp my ride, with a new COMAND and Sirius!
i cant wait.
i want steve to pimp my ride, with a new COMAND and Sirius!
i cant wait.
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Totally confused...
Alright everybody, so I ordered the 2357A-C bulbs from bekkers online. I've been waiting 3-4 months for these freakin' things and they don't fit!
Yes, I have BIX.
Yes, I RTFM.
Yes, it does indicate that the BIX blinkers are 2357A bulbs (the "c" above stands for chrome)
Okay, so anyway, I went to go fit the bulbs I just received and they wouldn't fit. I inspected the two prong settings and the 2357 is off-set (i.e. one is higher on the base than they other).
When I looked at the stock amber blinker bulbs, I noticed that the prongs are set at the same level.
Am I missing something? Did I not get this right? If anybody can figure out this puzzle, please let me know because I'm stumped. I'm at the point where I'm thinking that the PY21W is for the front blinker as well. That bulb looks more similar than what I just recently purchased. I think I'm gonna see if those fit tonight.
Yes, I have BIX.
Yes, I RTFM.
Yes, it does indicate that the BIX blinkers are 2357A bulbs (the "c" above stands for chrome)
Okay, so anyway, I went to go fit the bulbs I just received and they wouldn't fit. I inspected the two prong settings and the 2357 is off-set (i.e. one is higher on the base than they other).
When I looked at the stock amber blinker bulbs, I noticed that the prongs are set at the same level.
Am I missing something? Did I not get this right? If anybody can figure out this puzzle, please let me know because I'm stumped. I'm at the point where I'm thinking that the PY21W is for the front blinker as well. That bulb looks more similar than what I just recently purchased. I think I'm gonna see if those fit tonight.
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After this whole freakin' ordeal I went through just to find chrome blinkers, I found the bulbs that work for BIX setup.
Now, I'm wondering if it's different for different years, but
1156 is the solution (or at least one of them). Even though the owner's manual says 2357, I am going to be calling MB to let them know about this. I tried my cousin's bulb from his tailight and sure enough, it worked.
I'm going down the hill to see if I can pick some up before Auto Zone closes. If not, I'll pick some up tomorrow.
Go figure that one of the EASIEST bulbs to find on the market is the blinker that works for BIX.
I was wondering because 1157 is a dual-filament bulb and there is no reason for the blinker to be dual-filament because the light does not stay on. Since a 2357 bulb is a higher amp version of an 1157, obviously the same applies (i.e. no need for a dual filament bulb)
Well, hope that helps others that had this issue.
Now, I'm wondering if it's different for different years, but
1156 is the solution (or at least one of them). Even though the owner's manual says 2357, I am going to be calling MB to let them know about this. I tried my cousin's bulb from his tailight and sure enough, it worked.
I'm going down the hill to see if I can pick some up before Auto Zone closes. If not, I'll pick some up tomorrow.
Go figure that one of the EASIEST bulbs to find on the market is the blinker that works for BIX.
I was wondering because 1157 is a dual-filament bulb and there is no reason for the blinker to be dual-filament because the light does not stay on. Since a 2357 bulb is a higher amp version of an 1157, obviously the same applies (i.e. no need for a dual filament bulb)
Well, hope that helps others that had this issue.
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Originally Posted by ctC230K
front or rear bulb? i can't find rear bulb turn signal replacements? 
Rear bulb is PY21W, ctC230K. In fact, I'm pretty sure Bekkers has the chrome PY21W bulbs. Check their website www.bekkers.com They are under "specialty bulbs"
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Originally Posted by ctC230K
thanks. i have silverstar everything else just rears i can't get.
If not, here's the rear blinker:
LINK: PY21W REAR BLINKER BULB
I think, quite possibly, this is the actual bulb for the BIX (aside from 1156), but still have to contact MB tomorrow to find out:
LINK: P21W - SINGLE FILAMENT BULB BIX FRONT BLINKER
Last edited by drexappeal; Apr 27, 2005 at 01:52 AM.
