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Old May 9, 2002 | 03:01 PM
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Can you honestly say you like the tail lights on the G35 ? They scream ricer mobile.
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Old May 9, 2002 | 03:06 PM
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I've had 2 Maximas and loved them both. Never had a problem. Additionally, contrary to other posts in this thread, Nissan has consistently received very high ratings on resale from Consumer Reports. I traded one Maxima in for above Kelly Blue Book and sold the other one privately, again over blue book.

Can't speak directly to Infinity, but Iwould sure be interested in looking at the G35 based on what I've seen sofar. However, I don't really see it as competing with the 230 Coupe. Maybe I can talk my wife into trading my Acura TL?????
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Old May 9, 2002 | 03:17 PM
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I do like the rear including the lights. I'd say they're different certainly, not conservative but not ricey either IMO. They'd have to be clear at least lenses to get that billing. To me the IS300's lights epitomize rice, I'll throw in the new 7 series' rear end into that heap as well- just for laughs.
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Old May 9, 2002 | 04:40 PM
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Looks like rice, smells like rice, tastes like rice, feels like rice, call it what you want. The G35 is the new Acura CL Type-S. The new rice! Nissan had to play catch up on the CL.

Yes, Renault/Nissan/Infiniti does make trendier looking cars than Toyota and Honda but they don't hold up, hence the lower resale value.
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Old May 9, 2002 | 04:45 PM
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it's NISSAN!!!!!!!!
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Old May 9, 2002 | 04:52 PM
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I want a Skyline... did you know there is a lower end skyline thats around 30K. I was in New Zealand nissan and saw it there. Its so nice. I want it!
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Old May 9, 2002 | 05:03 PM
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Nissan has to play catch up with the CL!!
oh please...acura CL is just another wider and lower honda car that is based on the damn Civic platform like every other cars Honda ever makes(except NSX & S2k).

don't ever tried to compare G35/Nissan Skyline with the itty bitty CL type S. although type S is a good car but it will never be on the same level as the Skyline. Skyline is the japanese icon in cars. it has the most potential in mods to be the ultimate supercar.

BTW Altima is not the same as Skyline/G35. Skyline is developed and designed in japan and europe. Altima was developed and designed in CA mainly for the U.S. market. note: Altima is FWD, Skyline is RWD. the only thing in common with the two are they both have V6 engines, which i don't think they are the same either.

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Old May 9, 2002 | 05:12 PM
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the last gen Skyline has a lot of versions which based on the sedan or the coupe. the coupe start with the basic Skyline, Skyline 2.5 GT(or something), Skyline GT-R, GT-R v-spec, etc.

and for the sedan it too start with the basic Skyline than Skyline 2.5 GT. unfortunally the sedan don't have a GT-R version.

the current Skyline/G35 has a optional 8-speed CVT transmission out in japan, asia, and most europe country which came out last month. (yes you read it right it is "8-speed")
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Old May 9, 2002 | 05:47 PM
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Fine, call it rice, call it buell***** for all care the bottom line is that this car will clearly outperform any close competitors. That and a warranty sound like a better deal than modding the coupe and jeopardizing the warranty. I'd love to get some more juice into the coupe, but don't think I can afford the potential loss. You'd have to mod the snot out of the C230 to get it to contend with the G - (see also: Benzy). Too bad you guys don't like the tail lights cause you'll be seein' a lot of them I reckon. Brand snobs: better start saving for a C32 if you don't want to get your doors blown off. If anyone feels I'm way off the mark, or there's something I'm overlooking please chime in...
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Old May 9, 2002 | 05:54 PM
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Originally posted by zimmer26
Fine, call it rice, call it buell***** for all care the bottom line is that this car will clearly outperform any close competitors. That and a warranty sound like a better deal than modding the coupe and jeopardizing the warranty. I'd love to get some more juice into the coupe, but don't think I can afford the potential loss. You'd have to mod the snot out of the C230 to get it to contend with the G - (see also: Benzy). Too bad you guys don't like the tail lights cause you'll be seein' a lot of them I reckon. Brand snobs: better start saving for a C32 if you don't want to get your doors blown off. If anyone feels I'm way off the mark, or there's something I'm overlooking please chime in...
hehe...i do have a C32...
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Old May 9, 2002 | 06:00 PM
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I drove a 911 GT2 today and regret buying the c230. Darn. I should have wait.
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Old May 9, 2002 | 06:01 PM
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It wasn't directed at C32 owners!! You've got all the juice you can handle I imagine, but still no manual box, cmon MB! Sweet stealthy car though, no doubt, how do you rate it?
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Old May 9, 2002 | 06:06 PM
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Are you for real dude? You had 150k to spend on a car and bought the C230? If so what's holding back from buying the 911 and taking your modest loss on the coupe?? I guess that speaks highly for the coupe or lowly for you, I'm not sure which.
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Old May 9, 2002 | 06:16 PM
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Originally posted by zimmer26
Are you for real dude? You had 150k to spend on a car and bought the C230? If so what's holding back from buying the 911 and taking your modest loss on the coupe?? I guess that speaks highly for the coupe or lowly for you, I'm not sure which.
Iceman was engaging in. . .hmmmm, what do we call it. . . Hmmmmm. . . .Oh, A JOKE! Hence the and the
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Old May 9, 2002 | 06:26 PM
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I didn't get it Still don't
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Old May 9, 2002 | 09:11 PM
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Brand snobs: better start saving for a C32 if you don't want to get your doors blown off. If anyone feels I'm way off the mark, or there's something I'm overlooking please chime in...
Why all the obsession with speed, in the land of the lowly 75 MPH speed limit?

Who cares if someone else's car is faster? Anyone that bought a C 230 K solely for speed is a bozo
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Old May 9, 2002 | 11:25 PM
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Can you honestly say you like the tail lights on the G35 ? They scream ricer mobile.
They are pretty crazy looking but I like them better than the IS300 taillights.
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Old May 9, 2002 | 11:30 PM
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Originally posted by Mike T.
Anyone that bought a C 230 K solely for speed is a bozo
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Old May 9, 2002 | 11:35 PM
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Nissan has to play catch up with the CL!!
oh please...acura CL is just another wider and lower honda car that is based on the damn Civic platform like every other cars Honda ever makes(except NSX & S2k).

don't ever tried to compare G35/Nissan Skyline with the itty bitty CL type S. although type S is a good car but it will never be on the same level as the Skyline. Skyline is the japanese icon in cars. it has the most potential in mods to be the ultimate supercar.
you defend nissan but pan honda and acura??? hmmm that makes great sense

the Acura CL is built of the ACCORD platform, same as the RL. Japanese car manufactures have been sharing platforms up and down market since they created the near luxury market with the advent of acura/infiniti/lexus.

Lets face the facts though. ACURA is the up market honda, and it has a big folowing because people want fancy hondas, with honda reliability. Lexus went for real luxury, like bmw/audi/and merc, and has done well, with european luxury (sorta) and japanese reliability.

Infiniti on the other hand is on its last leg. Companies only spit out crazy new designs for 2 reasons: as a last ditch attempt to gain market share, or capture new markets. BMWs cooper is the later, its attempting to capture a new market for ultra compacts.

Infiniti is desperate to stay afloat. Dont believe that they are hurting??? check out www.autosite.com they sell about as many of their flagship model as mercedes sells of its more exclusive cars. Nissan is betting radical new designs like the fx 45 (a knock off of the vision GST btw) and the m45 and g35 coupe, can keep the marque a float.

At least nissans are reasonably priced, dealerships are plenty, and resale is comparable to honda/tpyota. The infinit gets you none of the above, but they have a nice nav
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Old May 9, 2002 | 11:47 PM
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i like nissan. i have fond memories of my '89 240sx Fastback (the euphemism for hatchback back then). i've always wanted the 300zx. i look on the new models w/ equal fondness.

same for hondas and acuras. i've never had a toyota or lexus, but i'd get them too. (too many cars, not enough time or garage space... um, and money )

i'd also like to own porsche, volvo, saab, probably a few other makes that i can't think of right now.

yeah, i'm not too crazy about the G35's rear lights - much like the lexus IS300's. if you listen real carefully, you can hear some whisper, "yeah, but you bought a sportcoupe..."

zimmer, if i read iceman's joke correctly, he has a coupe. he recently drove a 911 and it's performance made his car feel dinky... hence his regret. this is why i try not to test drive cars that may be much better than my current one b/c i start getting car hunger pangs... i drove a friend's VW bug today, and i felt fine afterwards.

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Old May 10, 2002 | 12:06 AM
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you guys are too funny....how can u hate on the g35...did u guys see the coupe?? blows away any car that mercedes has in the same price range...looks sporty and elegant at the same time...crushes a c230, even a 320...come on guys for 35 grand you're gettin a car with 275 horsies and rear wheel drive and 6 speed..never mind that the coupe is supposed to start at 28 grand imagine that...and it doesnt matter what the resale value is because anyone that knows about cars would buy it...i hate to break it to you guys but the japs got the market cornered up to about the 50000 barrier...there is always a jap car for less money and more content that a german car..i like german cars but i feel they are way too much money for too little product...25 thousand for a 230 and the thing dont even come loaded...thats benz for u...luxury car that u have to pay to make luxury so everyone needs to stop hating on jap cars cuz there is always a jap car that is better than your german car...and jap cars are more reliable a car is a car everyone has their own tastes so dont hate on something cuz its not german..there is nothing rice about the g35...speakin of rice the 230 is gonna be a rice mobile soon...1.8l engine ha ha ha that should be interesting...maybe that model wont have as many problems as the one out now...maybe it will be better than a g35(sarcasm) but anyway im done for now...i wanna hear ur guys hatin remarks to this byeeeeeee
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Old May 10, 2002 | 12:23 AM
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That car is $35,000 U.S In Canada your looking at close to $60,000 CND. The G35 is a great car and performs awsome, but since i paid close to $45,000 Canadian for my car, with the $15,000 left over i can mod my C230 to the teeth and leave the G35 seeing my tail light's.

Like i said, G35 is a great car but i like the look of my C230 much better,and close to 60 grand Canadian, i won't pay for that car. Sorry.
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Old May 10, 2002 | 01:19 AM
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Until the Infiniti dealer provides free car washes I'm keeping my coupe!
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you defend nissan but pan honda and acura??? hmmm that makes great sense

the Acura CL is built of the ACCORD platform, same as the RL. Japanese car manufactures have been sharing platforms up and down market since they created the near luxury market with the advent of acura/infiniti/lexus.

Lets face the facts though. ACURA is the up market honda, and it has a big folowing because people want fancy hondas, with honda reliability. Lexus went for real luxury, like bmw/audi/and merc, and has done well, with european luxury (sorta) and japanese reliability.

Infiniti on the other hand is on its last leg. Companies only spit out crazy new designs for 2 reasons: as a last ditch attempt to gain market share, or capture new markets. BMWs cooper is the later, its attempting to capture a new market for ultra compacts.

Infiniti is desperate to stay afloat. Dont believe that they are hurting??? check out www.autosite.com they sell about as many of their flagship model as mercedes sells of its more exclusive cars. Nissan is betting radical new designs like the fx 45 (a knock off of the vision GST btw) and the m45 and g35 coupe, can keep the marque a float.

At least nissans are reasonably priced, dealerships are plenty, and resale is comparable to honda/tpyota. The infinit gets you none of the above, but they have a nice nav
the ACCORD is base on the last gen civic's platform. one is bigger one is smaller but same concept.

Infinity/Acura/Lexus brand name only exist outside of Japan. why? because people don't want to buy a $70K nissan, $70k toyota, and $60k honda. so the japanese gave the world something different in name sake. nothing more. IMO german and japanese both have great engineering but some how japanese manufacturer always find someway to produce cheap cars that go very FAST.

to me most of the japanese brand just doesn't have the solidness that german put in their cars. just listen to the way the door closes on german and japanese cars.
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Old May 10, 2002 | 03:02 AM
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i agree with the "sound of the door" theory.....try a british junk...we owned a daimler...range rover...it closes ever "firmer"...
another difference is germany cars' steering wheel always give me a sense of resistance....thus making me feel good while conquering the cars...but jpn cars....they are so light and easy to turn..which is OK for driving..but doesnt satisfy my ego..sorry to say that..haha
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