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Old May 9, 2002 | 01:38 AM
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I test drove the Infiniti G35 sedan (coupe out at end of the yr? )
260 hp....3500 cc.....i must admit..i regret my coupe..the car..with navigiation, leather and cd changer...almost everything..is at 35k...the acceleration is unbeliavable....but then..i consoled myself..

a MERCEDES IS ALWAYS A MERCEDES
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Old May 9, 2002 | 01:52 AM
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Re: G35

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Don't flame me alright?

I test drove the Infiniti G35 sedan (coupe out at end of the yr? )
260 hp....3500 cc.....i must admit..i regret my coupe..the car..with navigiation, leather and cd changer...almost everything..is at 35k...the acceleration is unbeliavable....but then..i consoled myself..

a MERCEDES IS ALWAYS A MERCEDES
Mercedes or not, I'd take the G35. It's a better all-around car, and it's probably more reliable too. I saw a deep blue one driving around my house, and it looked stunning. Sometimes a Mercedes is just a status symbol to impress the neghbors. Think about it, if your C230 coupe would have been a Buick, would you have still bought it? Smart shoppers know to look beyond who makes the car and instead evaluate the car based on what it is, as if you didn't know who made it. Just my random thoughts, free speech rules.
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Old May 9, 2002 | 02:04 AM
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I've had an Infiniti I30 that was taken back under the lemon law in a trial. They are the worst company to deal with if anything goes wrong. I would never buy anything from that company. At least when I had an MB lemon they were nice about it. Infiniti was very rude. Thank goodness Renault bought them, not that I would buy a Renault either. They said I didn't know how to work the A/C and there was nothing wrong with it and I was crazy and I would never win a lemon law case. They were wrong (except the crazy part).

I haven't driven the G35 but I did test drive the 2002 I35 and though it was noisy and handled poorly when pressed and the seats were too soft. The only reason I test drove it is because they mailed me a promotion to get free cordless headset if I test drive it and my wife wanted them. The headsets are fine.
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Old May 9, 2002 | 02:05 AM
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if someone wanna buy my coupe..and i only have to pay 5000 more to get the G..i will!!!

any buyers?
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Old May 9, 2002 | 02:07 AM
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Re: Re: G35

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Mercedes or not, I'd take the G35. It's a better all-around car, and it's probably more reliable too. I saw a deep blue one driving around my house, and it looked stunning. Sometimes a Mercedes is just a status symbol to impress the neghbors. Think about it, if your C230 coupe would have been a Buick, would you have still bought it? Smart shoppers know to look beyond who makes the car and instead evaluate the car based on what it is, as if you didn't know who made it. Just my random thoughts, free speech rules.
wait till you guys see the G35/Skyline coupe...now that is a great car. still, i won't regret i pick my car

unless in two years the $80+k Skyline GT-R came out as an Infinity model than i'd be droling all over it.
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Old May 9, 2002 | 02:14 AM
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I've had an Infiniti I30 that was taken back under the lemon law in a trial. They are the worst company to deal with if anything goes wrong. I would never buy anything from that company. At least when I had an MB lemon they were nice about it. Infiniti was very rude. Thank goodness Renault bought them, not that I would buy a Renault either. They said I didn't know how to work the A/C and there was nothing wrong with it and I was crazy and I would never win a lemon law case. They were wrong (except the crazy part).

I haven't driven the G35 but I did test drive the 2002 I35 and though it was noisy and handled poorly when pressed and the seats were too soft. The only reason I test drove it is because they mailed me a promotion to get free cordless headset if I test drive it and my wife wanted them. The headsets are fine.

man...what is with you and your lemon crap man...seems like you have some mighty bad luck on buying cars.

or you are just some jerk behind a computer trying to diss every single car company that are out there?....

aiit...enough with the kidding and all...if you said you have all those lemons (I30, 3 C230K coupes, etc) why don't you show some actuall photo copied paper works on those stuff or more easily post the VIN # of each car.
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Old May 9, 2002 | 08:46 AM
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I am already scoping the G35 coupe as a follow up to the MB. Looks pretty sweet, love the **** end, ample power to the right axle, will have a manual if not at its debut, soon after.
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Old May 9, 2002 | 08:56 AM
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I have seen several G35 - have not driven one. But the G35 still looks like a slightly redone Altima3.5. When it is all said and done - the G35 is still a Nissan - nothing wrong with that. But, hard to justify paying an extra $10,000 for the G35, when you can get a fully loaded Altima3.5 for less- but with slightly less performance numbers and no analog clock. Just my 2cent worth.
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Old May 9, 2002 | 08:57 AM
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hmm nothing is better then a gussied up nissan with questionable resale value.

the navi works well though
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Old May 9, 2002 | 10:15 AM
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Correct me if I'm wrong but a fully loaded Altima (which is ugly and bulky looking to begin with) can go up to 25k. The interior looks pretty cheap, its FWD and with 240hp screams torque steer although I haven't driven it. That's my take on it. The sedan's still large (although considerably shorter than Altima I think), the coupe is smaller and bears much resemblance to the Z which is definitely a good thing.
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Old May 9, 2002 | 10:38 AM
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Originally posted by greg230
hmm nothing is better then a gussied up nissan with questionable resale value.
same could be said for resale value of c-coupe
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Old May 9, 2002 | 10:51 AM
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actually, all mercedes have (albeit this is for other models) had strong resale values, while infinities have had poor resale values.

Out of the 3 premuim japanese marques, infiniti is the dog of the bunch. Acura makes the nice fuel efficient performance cars, lexus, more geared toward luxury. Infiniti??? uh yea... uh... they have a really nice navigation system.
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Old May 9, 2002 | 10:54 AM
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Nissan is the worst of the Japanese car manufacturers for reliability. It is therefore fitting that it was bought out by Renault, the producer of the least reliable European cars (though I've personally had good luck with the Renaults I've owned). Infiniti is a pretend car manufacturer anyway, like Acura and Lexus. I guess I'm not impressed by this sort of marketing spin. In fact it's quite irritating. If I owned one I'd probably call it what it is - a Nissan. The G 35 may be an OK car but it's not for me. Once a Datsun, always a Datsun
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Old May 9, 2002 | 10:56 AM
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i see your persepective, nissan/infiniti's are questionable.
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Old May 9, 2002 | 11:02 AM
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The G35 looks sweet...I'd take it in a second over the coupe fellas.
I even considered trading my C320 for one.

I had an I30 and my dealer(s) were great...they even replaced the pass side airbag when the finish was scratched.

Bull - I know you said the AC didn't blow cold enuff ? how far was it off ??? was all the lemon crap/hassle worth it ???

I drove the I30 for 85k miles and only had a check eng lite come on twice....that's it !!

The resale values DO suck but...look at Consumer Reports for reliability.

The I35 has like a FOOT MORE REAR LEGROOM that my C320, more horsepower, better reliability. Handling/ride not as good tho.
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Old May 9, 2002 | 11:10 AM
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I was just at an Infinity dealer scoping out my new company car and the G35 is one of the contenders. It will never be my first car of choice but for a daily driver, 260 hp and 260 lb/ft can not be beat. One thing I dont like about it is the colored moldings at the bottom. They are the same color for all their cars so on black it looks fine but the silver looks funny because of the color change.

Resale may be a question but since I am getting an allowance I really dont care, I just lease the thing and then walk away after 3 years. The residuals are high right now because usually on new models they are higher. This coupled with me getting an invoice call is making me lean toward it.
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Old May 9, 2002 | 11:20 AM
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in the anonymous sea of small and midsize cars its nice to have something a little different. The infiniti product line is dull, and even the newest models arent sparking big interest in the nameplate.

look at their sales figures. infiniti isnt in great shape, has a small number of dealerships, soft resale, and questionable reliability. There are a see of great sedans out there.... bmw 3 and 5, MB: C and E, the audi 4/6, hell the passat W8 is cool. The acura RL and TL are stunningly reliable, if a bit sedate in execution, and lexus gets top marks for fit and finish. Why buy infiniti? they are in a unique spot in the market.... they have really nothing to offer.
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Old May 9, 2002 | 11:40 AM
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Re: Re: Re: G35

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man...what is with you and your lemon crap man...seems like you have some mighty bad luck on buying cars.

or you are just some jerk behind a computer trying to diss every single car company that are out there?....

aiit...enough with the kidding and all...if you said you have all those lemons (I30, 3 C230K coupes, etc) why don't you show some actuall photo copied paper works on those stuff or more easily post the VIN # of each car.
I buy an average of 1 car per year not counting motorcycles which run about the same. Since I go through a lot of cars I've had the good, the bad and the ugly. I've had two lemon law cases, my first, a 1984 MB 190D that had the throttle linkage mounted too close to the exhaust manifold and the plastic throttle linkage would expand and fall off, it was in 12 times for the same problem in 1 year. MB acknowledged their error and I got a new car. Then I swore off MBs and started going Japanese, Toyotas, Acura's and stuff. Then I got an Infiniti I30 in 1997. Within 2 days of owning the car I've noticed the A/C would shut off while driving. I brought it in 4 times to 2 different dealers and 4 times they told me that their is nothing wrong with it. I was given two I30 loaners to drive to see if it was me and those 2 loaners A/C worked fine, mine still didn't. I asked them to swap the A/C components and I would pay for labor and they refused. I filled out the paperwork with Infiniti's selected arbitrator because customer service at Infiniti was rude and told me to file because they didn't want to waste time with me. In the arbitration trial, both sides gave their story and and the arbitrator sent a independent mechanic to my house who evaluated the car and determined that it was indeed broken. All in all, it took 11 months but I prevailed.

What was interesting is that a friend's mother had a J30 at the same time. She was backing it out of the driveway when the accelerator stuck and she backed up across the street, into a pole, shift in foward and ran through the garage wall. There were skid marks to show she had the brake on the whole time. Infiniti refused to acknowledge there was a problem and they had the car fixed under collision insureance. A month later her husband drove the car and it did the same thing. Luckily he was in neutral. Then Infinitu finally admitted the problem gave them a loaner car as a replacement. And lastly, I called an attorney to discuss my case and when I told her my problem she said her Infiniti I30 was doing the same thing.

Now I'm not saying that previous car's I've owned didn't break, I'm saying some companies like Infiniti will not stand behind their cars after the sale. I've had several Mustangs and Ford P/Us and I never had a warrantee issue. I've had wear marks on a 2 1/2 year old convertible top and Ford replaced the top for free, not even a argument. I've had Toyotas and Hondas that never had any warranttee claims.

As for my current car, it's been in 3 times for thermostat problems that caused the check engine light to go on. I can't belive that 3 thermostats would be bad but who knows what company in China makes them things.

Since these problems happened years ago I don't have any paperwork that I've saved. It was a joy to go back to the dealer and drop the car off and get a check from Infiniti. Revenge is sweet.

P.S. Pixmation and Beth are also going lemon law issues of their own. I'm not the only one that has problems with certain cars. I'm waiting for thermostat #4 and a new C230 is mine!
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Old May 9, 2002 | 01:10 PM
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Are you guys forgetting that this car will ride the same platform and share many of the same parts with the new Z. The engine (said to be tuned to 275+, the suspension (Z's will be stiffer but same setup), the tranny - 6 speed manual, and a rear seat as an added bonus! I don't know if it will be a human usable rear seat (couldn't find the dimensions) but storage space at any rate. This is offering a hell of a lot as I see, and I have a feeling that once I drive it, it'll be so long MB! Sorry, but on paper its too good to be true. And the MPG should be comparable to the coupe- a bit less on the highway i think which I'll gladly take for 80 more hp!! Time will tell but I think Nissan is well on the road to recovery with these exciting new cars.
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Old May 9, 2002 | 01:24 PM
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Exactly, it share components with other Nissans like sport utes! So if we are talking about what's a faster car regardless of brand then why not get a Mustang Cobra or Z28-SS for less money and be easily modified for more performance and they come as convertibles. If you prefer ricers like the G35, get the Subie WRX. It will certainly run circles around the G35 and be more reliable and be AWD.
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Old May 9, 2002 | 01:35 PM
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Originally posted by zimmer26
Are you guys forgetting that this car will ride the same platform and share many of the same parts with the new Z. The engine (said to be tuned to 275+, the suspension (Z's will be stiffer but same setup), the tranny - 6 speed manual, and a rear seat as an added bonus! .......
I think there are less than 5 Japanese sports car in the market that have real performance. On the paper, everything looks great, but its totally a different story on the street. Not to offend any S2000 owners, but the S2000 is a prime example, 240hp@8300rpm, 153lb-ft@7500rpm. Under what circumstances will you squeeze yr car up to 8300rpm??? The car has no torque. Who knows if the Z350 will be another S2000? (Depite any other factors, IMHO, I think the Z350 looks much better than the TT or the SC430) Since I've had some unpleasant experiences with the 300ZX, I think I've better choices out there.
About the G35, I think its a nicely designed car. But I would go for an Audi A4 because of better performance, reliability and resale value.

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Old May 9, 2002 | 01:37 PM
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is there any motorized vehicle that drops in value like an infiniti? i mean with the exception of a motorhome, infiniti leads the dog parade. what a misunderstood company from the beginning. do any of you remember those stupid commercials of the wilderness and babbling brooks at the launch of the company. i think it was around 1989 if memory serves. they never even said what the product was.
i was in an infiniti dealer looking at a g20 a few years ago, what a POS. it was a stylish sentra at best, at least they were cheap. they were selling like five grand south of sticker. even at those prices my girlfriend chose to keep her ford ranger. you can have your infiniti.
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Old May 9, 2002 | 02:20 PM
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So many post to reply too...but to keep things short. I would take the G35. It look sweet , performs better and is pretty good in the price range. Nissan has always been the strongest engines when compared to the other japanese companies and so far, having a couple nissans in the family, nothing has gone wrong yet.

In regards to pretend marketing....Ok its a toyota...ok its a nissan.. Its a VERY VERY nice nissan...or Toyota. In Japan, everyone knows about toyotas and nissans from the beggining. They can come out with 50k cars (aristo, soarers) or even Cheaper economy ones (corrola)...But they always been selling all sorts of different priced cars. MB in the other hand was selling expensive luxary cars and is NOW trying to market the younger crowd. So in japan, there is no need to even change the name. But for marketing purposes they need to do it here.

I guess my point is, just because we all have benz's, we should keep an open mind cuz there are still alot of great cars out there......LIKE BIMMERS!!! LOL.

And yes, the ALtima almost has the same platform,..28k for the top of the line 3.5 leather... but remember the G35 is the SKYLINE. If only there was a GT-R version of that model. WHOO HOO!
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Old May 9, 2002 | 02:28 PM
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Hmm..Lexus, Acura, Infiniti = Toyota , Honda, Nissan??

My family has a Ls400, Lx 470 (the big jeep..is it lx or?), Rx300. I test drove the Is300 and wanna buy it before my mercedes dealer tempted me over...

Also drove was the Acura Cl Type S...

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Lexus is definately ahead in terms of luxury. After lexus, the nissan Q45 wins out....acura is not that great.

Performance, Lexus has the Gs or Is, Acura? Cl?? Rsx? NSX?
I don't like the G35 the first time i see them, but once i sat in it yesterday, i was blown away. In fact, i do not even dare to floor the accelerator....well..the interior is pretty OK...better then Cl Type S...more luxury then the IS300...

IS300 is around 34k
Cl Type S is around 32k
Infiniti G35 is around 35k (with navi)

overall...i must say that..guys..u must try it to feel it...and with my coupy...i wun even think about racing it on 101....
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I'll take a pass on the WRX, but thanks for assuming that I like "ricers" just because I like a car that is MIJ. The G35 is not the least bit ricey what the hell are you talking about? I am not one whose car must be built by Germans to feel that its any good. I actually drove the WRX twice just to make certain that I wasn't missing something- no love for the Subie or turbo lag or the lack of features/amenities, weird sounding horizontally opposed 4. Harris, surely you meant the S4, right? This car is going to smoke everything in its class (leave out the dying Camaros and Firebirds which are obviously not in its class.) The CL-S is nice but this car (if it does what they say it will do) will be much better and to me that sounds like a real winner. How can you compare this car to the S2000 btw??
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