Bi-X: W203/CL203 OEM Bi-XENON Upgrade, Auto-Levelling & Programming thread
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2002 C230K, 2013 BMW 328, 2015 BMW X5
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Congratulations on acquiring another Ferrari! With Italy’s finest, the SVO and your Coupe, it is not hard to envision some quality time for you in the garage and on the road. Hmm, which shall I exercise today?!
I’d still like to catch up with ya at Oggi’s to swap tales and check out the new ride..![Cheers](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/cheers.gif)
Congratulations on acquiring another Ferrari! With Italy’s finest, the SVO and your Coupe, it is not hard to envision some quality time for you in the garage and on the road. Hmm, which shall I exercise today?!
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I’d still like to catch up with ya at Oggi’s to swap tales and check out the new ride..
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Bob;
Damn, I saw your hint on the other board, and figured it was a Ferrari. We needs PICS!!! If you guys do a meet and greet, be sure to tell us where to crash it at.
E
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Did you get a Convertible or hardtop?
I had considered that car in the past.
Hard to find one thats been well maitained,
it was the least loved of ferrari's by the hard core
ferrari types, which makes it that much more affordable to
someone wanting an entry level Ferrari as long as it doesn't need
a lot of work straight away. Same drivetrain a a 308, and those are fun cars.
I had considered that car in the past.
Hard to find one thats been well maitained,
it was the least loved of ferrari's by the hard core
ferrari types, which makes it that much more affordable to
someone wanting an entry level Ferrari as long as it doesn't need
a lot of work straight away. Same drivetrain a a 308, and those are fun cars.
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Thanks guys! I formerly had a 1982 308 GTSi and it was a lot of fun. Really sorry I sold it. That car has appreciated quite a bit despite having the least desireable motor.
The Mondial is at the bottom of the depreciation cycle now as I see it. It's probably not going to depreciate anymore and probably is on its way up. The 308 GT/4 (aka Dino) was that way for a long time, and now it's hard to find a clean example for under $25K. (7 years ago, one could be had in the teens.) Mine is a Quattrovalvole, so more horsepower than the 2V cars. Should be fun. Pic attached.
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Yeah, with the C230 finally setup mostly the way I want, it's fun to drive. The wider and stickier rubber cured my need for a limited slip differential. Would have loved to have installed the BiX but that money is slated for the Ferrari at this point.
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We should definitely do a get together! I've been missing out all summer! Let's try to plan for something or, at the very least, catch up at the next group event!
Bob
Thanks guys! I formerly had a 1982 308 GTSi and it was a lot of fun. Really sorry I sold it. That car has appreciated quite a bit despite having the least desireable motor.
The Mondial is at the bottom of the depreciation cycle now as I see it. It's probably not going to depreciate anymore and probably is on its way up. The 308 GT/4 (aka Dino) was that way for a long time, and now it's hard to find a clean example for under $25K. (7 years ago, one could be had in the teens.) Mine is a Quattrovalvole, so more horsepower than the 2V cars. Should be fun. Pic attached.
*MB Content*
Yeah, with the C230 finally setup mostly the way I want, it's fun to drive. The wider and stickier rubber cured my need for a limited slip differential. Would have loved to have installed the BiX but that money is slated for the Ferrari at this point.
*Get Together Info*
We should definitely do a get together! I've been missing out all summer! Let's try to plan for something or, at the very least, catch up at the next group event!
Bob
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Thanks guys! I formerly had a 1982 308 GTSi and it was a lot of fun. Really sorry I sold it. That car has appreciated quite a bit despite having the least desireable motor.
The Mondial is at the bottom of the depreciation cycle now as I see it. It's probably not going to depreciate anymore and probably is on its way up. The 308 GT/4 (aka Dino) was that way for a long time, and now it's hard to find a clean example for under $25K. (7 years ago, one could be had in the teens.) Mine is a Quattrovalvole, so more horsepower than the 2V cars. Should be fun. Pic attached.
*MB Content*
Yeah, with the C230 finally setup mostly the way I want, it's fun to drive. The wider and stickier rubber cured my need for a limited slip differential. Would have loved to have installed the BiX but that money is slated for the Ferrari at this point.
*Get Together Info*
We should definitely do a get together! I've been missing out all summer! Let's try to plan for something or, at the very least, catch up at the next group event!
Bob
Thanks guys! I formerly had a 1982 308 GTSi and it was a lot of fun. Really sorry I sold it. That car has appreciated quite a bit despite having the least desireable motor.
The Mondial is at the bottom of the depreciation cycle now as I see it. It's probably not going to depreciate anymore and probably is on its way up. The 308 GT/4 (aka Dino) was that way for a long time, and now it's hard to find a clean example for under $25K. (7 years ago, one could be had in the teens.) Mine is a Quattrovalvole, so more horsepower than the 2V cars. Should be fun. Pic attached.
*MB Content*
Yeah, with the C230 finally setup mostly the way I want, it's fun to drive. The wider and stickier rubber cured my need for a limited slip differential. Would have loved to have installed the BiX but that money is slated for the Ferrari at this point.
*Get Together Info*
We should definitely do a get together! I've been missing out all summer! Let's try to plan for something or, at the very least, catch up at the next group event!
Bob
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ferra...ayphotohosting
Anyway, congrats. Minor point of contention though.
I do not believe that the 308 GT4 had anything to do with the
246 Dino or any of the FIAT Dino's. Dino is 6 cyl.
308 GT4 is Bertone bodied 2+2 3.0 L V8, same as the Later Pinnin bodied
308's. It's closer to the Mondial, as the Mondial is the 2+2 Pinnin replacement for the Bertone bodied Gt4 2+2.
While I love much of Bertone's stuff, the Gt4 wasn't the best example of their work. Oddly enough a search on craigslist or Ebay for X19's yields zero, unless you look in UK.
I think you're right about the depreciation cycle.
But getting it serviced won't cost any less, as someone I know found out.
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Minor point of contention though.
I do not believe that the 308 GT4 had anything to do with the
246 Dino or any of the FIAT Dino's. Dino is 6 cyl.
308 GT4 is Bertone bodied 2+2 3.0 L V8, same as the Later Pinnin bodied
308's. It's closer to the Mondial, as the Mondial is the 2+2 Pinnin replacement for the Bertone bodied Gt4 2+2.
I do not believe that the 308 GT4 had anything to do with the
246 Dino or any of the FIAT Dino's. Dino is 6 cyl.
308 GT4 is Bertone bodied 2+2 3.0 L V8, same as the Later Pinnin bodied
308's. It's closer to the Mondial, as the Mondial is the 2+2 Pinnin replacement for the Bertone bodied Gt4 2+2.
Actually the 1974 version of the 308 GT/4 was called a Dino in honor of Enzo Ferrari's son. Here's a reference:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrari_GT4
In 1975, Ferrari rebadged it a Ferrari instead of a Dino (which was what a lot of dealers were doing anyway with the 1974 cars.)
I was watching that car on eBay to see how it would do. That car is Argento (silver) and mine is Grigio (Gray metallic.) Bertone liked the angular designs whereas Pinnin Farina liked more flowing lines. I had a 1981 Fiat X1/9 and liked that little car a lot. I had considered the 308 GT/4 but need the back seat space for my son. The Mondial has more back seat room than the 308 GT/4.
As for service - it depends on where you go. But you'll pay a lot, or you'll pay A LOT MORE for service. Eugenio's Ferrari Service is excellent and usually booked for months in advance. I plan to do most of the work myself but will have Eugenio do a timing belt, tensioner and possibly the water pump.
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I think the bi-xenon light modification is worthwhile if you can afford it. But if not, the projector lens and Halogen bulb seem like a good modification to make if reasonably priced.
Bob
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Lenses are painted, angel eye rings are installed - too bad its gonna rain all weekend.
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Ha, I stand corrected.
Never knew there was a Dino badged V8.
Does the Mondail require removing the engine to do the timing belt?
Those early V8's have FIAT stamped on the block.
BTW- I see that set of Bix's on ebay is back.
Guess the bidder backed out?
And of course Advans is already on it...![Wink](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
Never knew there was a Dino badged V8.
Does the Mondail require removing the engine to do the timing belt?
Those early V8's have FIAT stamped on the block.
BTW- I see that set of Bix's on ebay is back.
Guess the bidder backed out?
And of course Advans is already on it...
![Wink](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
Actually the 1974 version of the 308 GT/4 was called a Dino in honor of Enzo Ferrari's son. Here's a reference:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrari_GT4
In 1975, Ferrari rebadged it a Ferrari instead of a Dino (which was what a lot of dealers were doing anyway with the 1974 cars.)
I was watching that car on eBay to see how it would do. That car is Argento (silver) and mine is Grigio (Gray metallic.) Bertone liked the angular designs whereas Pinnin Farina liked more flowing lines. I had a 1981 Fiat X1/9 and liked that little car a lot. I had considered the 308 GT/4 but need the back seat space for my son. The Mondial has more back seat room than the 308 GT/4.
As for service - it depends on where you go. But you'll pay a lot, or you'll pay A LOT MORE for service. Eugenio's Ferrari Service is excellent and usually booked for months in advance. I plan to do most of the work myself but will have Eugenio do a timing belt, tensioner and possibly the water pump.
*Mercedes Content*
I think the bi-xenon light modification is worthwhile if you can afford it. But if not, the projector lens and Halogen bulb seem like a good modification to make if reasonably priced.
Bob
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrari_GT4
In 1975, Ferrari rebadged it a Ferrari instead of a Dino (which was what a lot of dealers were doing anyway with the 1974 cars.)
I was watching that car on eBay to see how it would do. That car is Argento (silver) and mine is Grigio (Gray metallic.) Bertone liked the angular designs whereas Pinnin Farina liked more flowing lines. I had a 1981 Fiat X1/9 and liked that little car a lot. I had considered the 308 GT/4 but need the back seat space for my son. The Mondial has more back seat room than the 308 GT/4.
As for service - it depends on where you go. But you'll pay a lot, or you'll pay A LOT MORE for service. Eugenio's Ferrari Service is excellent and usually booked for months in advance. I plan to do most of the work myself but will have Eugenio do a timing belt, tensioner and possibly the water pump.
*Mercedes Content*
I think the bi-xenon light modification is worthwhile if you can afford it. But if not, the projector lens and Halogen bulb seem like a good modification to make if reasonably priced.
Bob
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I just bought me an 04 C230 sports coupe. This is an amazing car. I see that alot of people mod thier cars so, I would like to begin modding mines also. The first mod I would like to get are the Bi-Xenon Headlights thats on the 05 cars. I happen to see an auction on ebay, and wondering would these fit my car and how would I install them ? Can you help me out please ? Heres the link to the auction.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=270125743055
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=270125743055
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Did you read the description of the item?
"THIS AUCTION IS FOR A PAIR OF OEM MERCEDES BENZ C230 SPORT COUPE BI-XENON HEADLIGHT ASSEMBLIES. THESE CAN BE USED ON ANY C-CLASS COUPE FROM 02-05 MODELS. THEY HAVE BEEN SLIGHTLY USED AND ARE IN WORKING CONDITION. DRIVERS SIDE IGNITER WILL NEED TO BE REPLACED SOON. IN ORDER TO USE THESE HEADLIGHTS YOU MUST TAKE YOUR CAR TO A MERCEDES BENZ DEALER AND HAVE THEM CHANGE YOUR SETTINGS TO XENON PRESENT.I WILL INCLUDE 8000K XENON BULBS WITH THE ASSEMBLIES. THESE ARE A RARE FOR THE C-CLASS COUPE. HERES YOUR CHANCE TO HAVE A RARE SET."
"THIS AUCTION IS FOR A PAIR OF OEM MERCEDES BENZ C230 SPORT COUPE BI-XENON HEADLIGHT ASSEMBLIES. THESE CAN BE USED ON ANY C-CLASS COUPE FROM 02-05 MODELS. THEY HAVE BEEN SLIGHTLY USED AND ARE IN WORKING CONDITION. DRIVERS SIDE IGNITER WILL NEED TO BE REPLACED SOON. IN ORDER TO USE THESE HEADLIGHTS YOU MUST TAKE YOUR CAR TO A MERCEDES BENZ DEALER AND HAVE THEM CHANGE YOUR SETTINGS TO XENON PRESENT.I WILL INCLUDE 8000K XENON BULBS WITH THE ASSEMBLIES. THESE ARE A RARE FOR THE C-CLASS COUPE. HERES YOUR CHANCE TO HAVE A RARE SET."
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Ok so they will fit. Looks like I will be gettin some rare Bi-Xenons at a cheap price then. At my dealer they say they would cost me $2500 for these headlights, not including install. Also what is Xenon Present ?
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I went to search and input "Xenon Present".
See if you can find it here:
https://mbworld.org/forums/search.php?searchid=3014048
See if you can find it here:
https://mbworld.org/forums/search.php?searchid=3014048
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Well I just got off the phone with the dealership and they told me it would cost me $700 for the install. This is expensive. Is it that difficult to install ? Whats a good price I should pay for an install ?
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thats ridiculous... i got help from a buddy on the forum and paid him with fuddruckers... but it definitely wasn't no 700 dollar burger
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Here is a Do it Yourself (DIY) sticky at the top of the page. You can find all kinds of answers to your questions here.
https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w203/108681-aftermarket-oem-modifications-diy-faq-s.html
https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w203/108681-aftermarket-oem-modifications-diy-faq-s.html