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Old 04-13-2009, 01:24 AM
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teaser...new rotor ring and ceramic pads. probably will look stupid with the rear being drilled and slotted, but whateverz...should perform better with less squeal

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Nice Frank! Still modding the C32! I might have to start again.
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Nice Frank! Still modding the C32! I might have to start again.
not modding...just maintenance parts...

wish i have turbos to play with any new stuff to the E90?
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stoptech rotors? they fit onto the Brembo calipers?

nice!!!
Old 04-13-2009, 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Mu9enx
stoptech rotors? they fit onto the Brembo calipers?

nice!!!
same diameter and thickness. designed to work with Brembo hub hat. I'll be damned if it doesn't fit as told. They'll be frisbeed into someone if they don't fit.
Old 04-17-2009, 08:29 PM
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the good and the bad...

the good: had the rotors and pads installed. did a light break in.

the bad: found out the lower control arm bushings are badly shot on driverside. pretty much done for on the passenger side as well. my intuition was right which I feared. LOL #%#@$%#$@^
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Originally Posted by FrankW
the good and the bad...

the good: had the rotors and pads installed. did a light break in.

the bad: found out the lower control arm bushings are badly shot on driverside. pretty much done for on the passenger side as well. my intuition was right which I feared. LOL #%#@$%#$@^
damn..sucks...how much does that cost to fix? how do you tell if its shot or not haha, i wonder if mine is shot.
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Originally Posted by kcheng86
damn..sucks...how much does that cost to fix? how do you tell if its shot or not haha, i wonder if mine is shot.
expecting $140 ish per contro arm which needs two per side.

you can physically look at it. it should not have any cracks or great openings.

edit: i guess that's per side, not per arm. LOL

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Old 04-18-2009, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by FrankW
expecting $140 ish per contro arm which needs two per side.

you can physically look at it. it should not have any cracks or great openings.
have you checked these out? There $260 shipped for the left and right set.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MERCE...Q5fAccessories
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Frank - why are you looking at replacing the complete arms & not just the bushes. Are your ball joints shot?
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Originally Posted by Glyn M Ruck
Frank - why are you looking at replacing the complete arms & not just the bushes. Are your ball joints shot?
maybe its the high labor cost? Its one of those things where its just cheaper to buy new then to replace.

I remember the mechanic quoted me $260 to replace and install my rear control arm brushings for my integra, when i could just buy new control arms with new brushings in them for $100.
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Yeah maybe Mike - In South Africa it is considerably cheaper to just pop a new set of bushes in at the dealer. Takes them about 1.5 hours. The bushes have been substantially reduced in price this end.
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Originally Posted by Glyn M Ruck
Yeah maybe Mike - In South Africa it is considerably cheaper to just pop a new set of bushes in at the dealer. Takes them about 1.5 hours. The bushes have been substantially reduced in price this end.
For 1.5 hours labor I would have let them do mine. The standard labor time here is to look in the book for the allotted time, then multiply it by 3 or 4.
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Originally Posted by mleskovar
For 1.5 hours labor I would have let them do mine. The standard labor time here is to look in the book for the allotted time, then multiply it by 3 or 4.
lol...i hear you on that. i know some mechanics charge more then doctors per hr.
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OK - I get you guys - sounds like stealership is an accurate description. It really is an easy job with the right tools & a hoist. What the hell do these guys do with all the time.
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Hey guys would all of this be covered by warranty?
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Originally Posted by Glyn M Ruck
Frank - why are you looking at replacing the complete arms & not just the bushes. Are your ball joints shot?
the ball joints are fine, but this will probably become a DIY job with help from a few friends, so replacing the arms completely is a lot easier i guess. haha
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Originally Posted by Mu9enx
Hey guys would all of this be covered by warranty?
it should be, but I diagnose mine too late. lol good thing it doesn't look as expensive as I thought.
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Originally Posted by TemjinX2
have you checked these out? There $260 shipped for the left and right set.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MERCE...Q5fAccessories
thanks mike. I bookmarked it. I'll buy these after I check out the parts from dealership monday see which is cheaper. my tuner shop guy said there's a newer design on the bushing, so not sure which one is in this ebay listing. I'll let you guys know.
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Originally Posted by FrankW
thanks mike. I bookmarked it. I'll buy these after I check out the parts from dealership monday see which is cheaper. my tuner shop guy said there's a newer design on the bushing, so not sure which one is in this ebay listing. I'll let you guys know.
Frank - there is indeed a new design on the bushing - They have been made softer - see pdf attached.

Can you please find out if MBUSA reflect a new part number for the redesigned bushes. In South Africa they say the bushes have been redesigned but under the old part number??? I find this strange unless its a 2 digit suffix change.
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Originally Posted by Glyn M Ruck
Frank - there is indeed a new design on the bushing - They have been made softer - see pdf attached.

Can you please find out if MBUSA reflect a new part number for the redesigned bushes. In South Africa they say the bushes have been redesigned but under the old part number??? I find this strange unless its a 2 digit suffix change.
glyn, was it to improve handling or longevity? i always heard the you would want stiffer brushings for increased handling and softer for longevity.
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Yes Mike, any increase in compliance in a vehicle will generally have an adverse effect on handling - The reason most American cars are bad handlers in the absolute sense. Benz did this for longevity, improved comfort & endless complaints about tyre noise transmission into the cabin - or at least this is what I've managed to ascertain - this is not their marketing hype - maybe the comfort part is. They have been very careful as to which bushings changed & made the steering more direct at the same time. People don't seem to have noticed any adverse effects on handling. You would probably need to do a side by side test to pick it up.
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Originally Posted by Glyn M Ruck
Yes Mike, any increase in compliance in a vehicle will generally have an adverse effect on handling - The reason most American cars are bad handlers in the absolute sense. Benz did this for longevity, improved comfort & endless complaints about tyre noise transmission into the cabin - or at least this is what I've managed to ascertain - this is not their marketing hype - maybe the comfort part is. They have been very careful as to which bushings changed & made the steering more direct at the same time. People don't seem to have noticed any adverse effects on handling. You would probably need to do a side by side test to pick it up.
being softer they're definitely going with comfort. it would possibly mean less impact harshness.


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