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Old Nov 12, 2022 | 09:46 AM
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MB W203 C230 KOMPRESOR : CODE P0171 SYSTEM TO LEAN

Hello , i am new here, i have e Mercedes Benz W203 C230 KOMPRESOR M271 ENGINE with petron and LPG (STAG), i am writing here bacause i have more than 3 months that i am having a problem with P0171 CODE lean some times put me P0172 rich anyway mostly chek engine light with P0171 , now i have change EGR change all spark plugs with ignition coil chek for vacum hoes chek manifold change upstream o2 sensor change canister purge valve solenoid clean tow times MAF clean throttle body and the P0171 still there ,the mechanics here dont know very very much but they try ,so i have bought a scan tool that i connect with my phone and i am learing from it . I see that my STFT stay 0 or cloes to 0 in idle speed , but my LTFT stay 14.8 at idle speed , my o2 sensor stays form 0.45 volt to 0.85 volt , and i dont know what to do know because the mechanic says change it all with new but i can not change it without know where the problem is it also knowing that they cost a lot. I emphasize that both in petorl and LPG the values are almost the same .Hope that anyone can help me . Thank you
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Old Nov 13, 2022 | 03:29 PM
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Nooo! Don't just start throwing parts at codes only read with OBD reader.
1st off, look for any vacuum hoses that are bad, that will cause it.
For me, I was getting that, it was hoses and also needed new MAF but was very hard to find a
good one. OEM was originally made by VDO Siemen. None of the knock offs are any good.
But only a scan with mercedes specific scanner will pin it down.
I never dealt with voltages etc. but O2 sensors are supposed to be good for 100K miles, so
if it's older than that it's probably a good idea to replace it.
All these things are easy to do yourself.

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Old Nov 14, 2022 | 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by C230 Sport Coup
Nooo! Don't just start throwing parts at codes only read with OBD reader.
1st off, look for any vacuum hoses that are bad, that will cause it.
For me, I was getting that, it was hoses and also needed new MAF but was very hard to find a
good one. OEM was originally made by VDO Siemen. None of the knock offs are any good.
But only a scan with mercedes specific scanner will pin it down.
I never dealt with voltages etc. but O2 sensors are supposed to be good for 100K miles, so
if it's older than that it's probably a good idea to replace it.
All these things are easy to do yourself.
Thank you for reply sir , but from my experience i dont think that i have vaccum leak beacuse in vaccum leak the rpm will falculate up and down and i dont see any crack hoes and allso we dont have somke machine that I would be 100% sure for vaccum leak. Another thing with my scan is that my STFT stay cloes to 0 in idle speed , but my LTFT stay 14.8 at idle speed and when i push the gas pedal and go in 3000rpm the STFT move but the LTFT stays to 14.8 to 15.8 ,and if a change the MAF here i only find the MEAT&DORIA OR BOSCH so an o2 downstream so here i can not find THE OEM PARTS ,However i will go to mechanic to ask for MERCEDES SCAN it again and see again for vaccum leak ,anyway if you have experienc for this any thing will help me . Thank you have a nice day.
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Old Nov 16, 2022 | 04:16 AM
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Originally Posted by C230 Sport Coup
Nooo! Don't just start throwing parts at codes only read with OBD reader.
1st off, look for any vacuum hoses that are bad, that will cause it.
For me, I was getting that, it was hoses and also needed new MAF but was very hard to find a
good one. OEM was originally made by VDO Siemen. None of the knock offs are any good.
But only a scan with mercedes specific scanner will pin it down.
I never dealt with voltages etc. but O2 sensors are supposed to be good for 100K miles, so
if it's older than that it's probably a good idea to replace it.
All these things are easy to do yourself.
Hello sir , i rest all ecu data with mercedes benz ob2 scanner and for now no engine light in my dashboard ,anyway i make another test with my ob2 scanner (video recorder in highway) {https://mega.nz/file/cjR0lJaI#5GJsB9P6nFs6ZkAmxD6I1LkqWhgK9ThCBlMp-avTe3U} and i see that my STFT goiing up and down 0-25% and my MAF move little strange for my judgment ,so i am attach the video here to see if anyone can judgement this and help me . Thank you very much .
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Old Nov 28, 2022 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Tafa94
Hello sir , i rest all ecu data with mercedes benz ob2 scanner and for now no engine light in my dashboard ,anyway i make another test with my ob2 scanner (video recorder in highway) {https://mega.nz/file/cjR0lJaI#5GJsB9P6nFs6ZkAmxD6I1LkqWhgK9ThCBlMp-avTe3U} and i see that my STFT goiing up and down 0-25% and my MAF move little strange for my judgment ,so i am attach the video here to see if anyone can judgement this and help me . Thank you very much .
hello.from the video, everything looks fine, and stft and ltft look good. what's your problem

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Old Nov 29, 2022 | 05:26 AM
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hello.from the video, everything looks fine, and stft and ltft look good. what's your problem
Hello ,Thank you for reply ,now i have new catalytic ,both of them upstream and downstream and both sensor of the catalytic, so i clean code that was P0171 SYSTEM TO LEAN and i make another test video with my ob2 and for now i i will observ the situation every day for my stft and ltft , anyway i dont know very much for engine because i am not the mechanical but i am learing form internet so for me the stft dont looks good because i think that the stft with go - (negativ) when you push the gas pedal and will stay cloes to 0 when idle , in my case my stft goes for 0 to +25 (pozitive), +28 max when i push the gas pedal , so in this cays mabye you will say it depends in the health of engine like maintrance the km of engine ect ect ,ok i understand but i am not saying that stft will be - (negativ) all the time when i push the pedal but mostly will not go more than -10 to +10 so mine goes +25 thats make me thinking that i have a problem and the engine feels like iit seems to stall when i give it a lot of gas ,i give 6000-7000 rpm and its not going so smothly. I have clean throttle body clean maf change both up and down o2 sensor change spark plugs but I have not changed the coils ,anyway I think that the coils have nothing to do with stft , so i will change the coils and will observ the situation for 1 week and i will see if chek engine light will come to my dashboard. I'm sorry for my bad English and for the length of the whole conversation but any advice from you would be valuable for me. Thank you very much.

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Make sure you are using OEM spark plugs! This can cause - P0171 SYSTEM TO LEAN
Spark plugs can make your car run lean so check there first if you did a change and getting lean errors. Stick to the good stuff!

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I have change it with NGK LASER IRIDIUM becasue they said this is the best for this engine
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BOSCH FR-6-MPP-332 is OEM..
NGK should be OK, but may also be the cause of your issue?.. Coils and plugs form a circuit, and the electronics can influence the dwell, and timing of spark, causing a lean condition..
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