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Give these guys a box of Kleenex! As if every other brand out there doesn't have its share of lemons! My $38K Ford Expedition was one problem after the next
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Wow, that is pretty funny. Guess were not the only ones Buillie.
I think though that those sites we're set up but the marketing teams for Lemonlawamerica which is a bunch of lawyers that do lemon law suits though.
Cheers,
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I think though that those sites we're set up but the marketing teams for Lemonlawamerica which is a bunch of lawyers that do lemon law suits though.
Cheers,
Beth
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Found a new problem today. The passenger power window doesn't close automatically like it used to. Trip #7 to the dealer. Luckily I need the 10K service so it's not a big deal.
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Found a new problem today. The passenger power window doesn't close automatically like it used to. Trip #7 to the dealer. Luckily I need the 10K service so it's not a big deal.
Found a new problem today. The passenger power window doesn't close automatically like it used to. Trip #7 to the dealer. Luckily I need the 10K service so it's not a big deal.
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question??
what kind of problem do you guys have?...engine problems? transmission problem? or else?...and did the dealership ever fixed it?
thanks...answers would be appreciated.
besides...don't ever expect a under $30k MB in its first year of production to run without any problems. i would only complain if i have a S-class or CL-class with a lot of problems.
thanks...answers would be appreciated.
besides...don't ever expect a under $30k MB in its first year of production to run without any problems. i would only complain if i have a S-class or CL-class with a lot of problems.
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Re: question??
Originally posted by FrankW
besides...don't ever expect a under $30k MB in its first year of production to run without any problems. i would only complain if i have a S-class or CL-class with a lot of problems.
besides...don't ever expect a under $30k MB in its first year of production to run without any problems. i would only complain if i have a S-class or CL-class with a lot of problems.
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Re: question??
Originally posted by FrankW
what kind of problem do you guys have?...engine problems? transmission problem? or else?...and did the dealership ever fixed it?
thanks...answers would be appreciated.
besides...don't ever expect a under $30k MB in its first year of production to run without any problems. i would only complain if i have a S-class or CL-class with a lot of problems.
what kind of problem do you guys have?...engine problems? transmission problem? or else?...and did the dealership ever fixed it?
thanks...answers would be appreciated.
besides...don't ever expect a under $30k MB in its first year of production to run without any problems. i would only complain if i have a S-class or CL-class with a lot of problems.
you must be joking right about expecting MB's under 30K to have issues... that's just dumb... well i guessi can complain coz my car costed 33K...
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Found a new problem today. The passenger power window doesn't close automatically like it used to. Trip #7 to the dealer. Luckily I need the 10K service so it's not a big deal.
Found a new problem today. The passenger power window doesn't close automatically like it used to. Trip #7 to the dealer. Luckily I need the 10K service so it's not a big deal.
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Re: question??
Originally posted by FrankW
besides...don't ever expect a under $30k MB in its first year of production to run without any problems. i would only complain if i have a S-class or CL-class with a lot of problems.
besides...don't ever expect a under $30k MB in its first year of production to run without any problems. i would only complain if i have a S-class or CL-class with a lot of problems.
I won't go through an itemized list (to spare the board), but my car has been in the shop about 25 days since I bought it on Feb 1. That is one out of 4 or 5 days since I bought my car. My problems range from the fuel gauge not working (been replaed 3 times and it still does not work) to the seat belt locking up on me (been replaced more than 3 times).
Tell me now, I should not be upset? But, I'm working on a plan.
Beth
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I've been pretty lucky, but from what I have seen (here and other places) the quality and reliability of these car really is very suspect.
Yes, it is true that on internet boards, people tend to complain a lot, so you get a skewed view, but I participate in a lot of other car boards for other makes, and you don't hear half the real problems you hear on this board. (And in general about MB quality lately, all over the place). And that's the truth! There are a lot of b!tchers on the various BMW 3 Series boards, who like to complain about everything, but there are maybe 1/10 of the problems I see here. I participated for a while on the Lexus board (clublexus.com (??)), and there were some quality and reliability complaints, but a fraction of what I see here.
Which is too bad. MB can sell cars based on their name and marketing along (and their history) . . . but that won't last forever (although I think it can last a long, long time - its a very strong brand name). I hope MB can pull it together a little better in the future.
Yes, it is true that on internet boards, people tend to complain a lot, so you get a skewed view, but I participate in a lot of other car boards for other makes, and you don't hear half the real problems you hear on this board. (And in general about MB quality lately, all over the place). And that's the truth! There are a lot of b!tchers on the various BMW 3 Series boards, who like to complain about everything, but there are maybe 1/10 of the problems I see here. I participated for a while on the Lexus board (clublexus.com (??)), and there were some quality and reliability complaints, but a fraction of what I see here.
Which is too bad. MB can sell cars based on their name and marketing along (and their history) . . . but that won't last forever (although I think it can last a long, long time - its a very strong brand name). I hope MB can pull it together a little better in the future.
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I've got an '02 C240, and honestly, the only "problem" I would mention is that the passenger headrest rattles once in a while. I know the C230 group has been reporting several recurring problems. I wonder if overall, the 2001 sedans have had more issues than the 2002's. It'll be interesting to see if the 2nd model year 2003 C230's fare better than the first year.
Two other opinions. I know it's frustrating and maddening to have to return to a dealer more than once for the same problem, and I think some of the board members' problems have to do with their service departments failing to cure the problem initially. I also understand that people don't expect problems, but I don't think things like faulty fuel gauges and the like constitute a lemon. That's just my opinion. To me a lemon is a car with serious problems in the major components -- engine, transmission, A/C, etc.
Two other opinions. I know it's frustrating and maddening to have to return to a dealer more than once for the same problem, and I think some of the board members' problems have to do with their service departments failing to cure the problem initially. I also understand that people don't expect problems, but I don't think things like faulty fuel gauges and the like constitute a lemon. That's just my opinion. To me a lemon is a car with serious problems in the major components -- engine, transmission, A/C, etc.
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Lets also be really careful about being critical of the brand when you have an incompetent dealer. When you have thousands of parts in todays vehicles it is possible for something to go wrong. However when a dealer attempts to fix the problem more than once I would say the dealer service person either misdiagnosed the problem or made the fix improperly. I don't think its fair to condem the brand when you have some technicians that may not be the best. This of course is the fault of the dealer for keeping or accepting less than top notch mechanics.
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Buellwinkle - we had a similar problem on our 00 C230, and it corrected itself after I removed the key and started it again. BTW a though on problems happening 3+ times, if the dealer doesnt know how to correct the problem or M-B has not made a revised product (if its a design flaw), then replacing the old part with the new part probably isnt going to help. I'm NOT defending the dealerships, we have had bad experiences with all but one M-B dealer.
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Originally posted by viper
Lets also be really careful about being critical of the brand when you have an incompetent dealer. When you have thousands of parts in todays vehicles it is possible for something to go wrong. However when a dealer attempts to fix the problem more than once I would say the dealer service person either misdiagnosed the problem or made the fix improperly. I don't think its fair to condem the brand when you have some technicians that may not be the best. This of course is the fault of the dealer for keeping or accepting less than top notch mechanics.
Lets also be really careful about being critical of the brand when you have an incompetent dealer. When you have thousands of parts in todays vehicles it is possible for something to go wrong. However when a dealer attempts to fix the problem more than once I would say the dealer service person either misdiagnosed the problem or made the fix improperly. I don't think its fair to condem the brand when you have some technicians that may not be the best. This of course is the fault of the dealer for keeping or accepting less than top notch mechanics.
originally posted by galaxygrrl :
Frank, please don't take this the wrong, but, why should I put up with than any problems? 30k might not be a lot for a MB, but it sure is a lot for a car.
I won't go through an itemized list (to spare the board), but my car has been in the shop about 25 days since I bought it on Feb 1. That is one out of 4 or 5 days since I bought my car. My problems range from the fuel gauge not working (been replaed 3 times and it still does not work) to the seat belt locking up on me (been replaced more than 3 times).
Tell me now, I should not be upset? But, I'm working on a plan.
Beth
Frank, please don't take this the wrong, but, why should I put up with than any problems? 30k might not be a lot for a MB, but it sure is a lot for a car.
I won't go through an itemized list (to spare the board), but my car has been in the shop about 25 days since I bought it on Feb 1. That is one out of 4 or 5 days since I bought my car. My problems range from the fuel gauge not working (been replaed 3 times and it still does not work) to the seat belt locking up on me (been replaced more than 3 times).
Tell me now, I should not be upset? But, I'm working on a plan.
Beth
BTW what do you mean that the seat belt locking up on you?...if you are refering that when you stop at the red light and tring to bend foward to pick up stuff, that has happened to me in my car too. my solution was simply loosen the foot pressure that i was putting on the brake and let the car moves a little bit. i think that happens because the seat belt is brake sensative. under medium and heavy braking the seatbelt will lock up to keep you in place but it is very stupid to realize that you already have stopped and continues to lock in place. as long as there is no mechanical problems that will endanger you when driving the car i think you'll be fine.
Frank
BTW i wrote this message at 5 am in the morning...so if it doesn't make any sense, it doesn't make any sense...
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The C230 Sports Coupe has been in production worldwide since 2001. It's only new for 2002 in the U.S. The motor has been available in the U.S. since 1998 yet I've had it in 3 times for thermostat problems. The scary model will be the 2003 with a genuinely new 1.8 liter motor. It's a Mercedes, it's got to be prone to problems. How else would they have so much practice in excellent customer service. If it never broke it would be a Honda and I would never know about their great customer service. That's why they charge me way more at Honda for maintenance than MB, since their cars don't break they have to make money by ripping you off on maintenance.
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Originally posted by Buellwinkle
The C230 Sports Coupe has been in production worldwide since 2001. It's only new for 2002 in the U.S. The motor has been available in the U.S. since 1998 yet I've had it in 3 times for thermostat problems. The scary model will be the 2003 with a genuinely new 1.8 liter motor.
The C230 Sports Coupe has been in production worldwide since 2001. It's only new for 2002 in the U.S. The motor has been available in the U.S. since 1998 yet I've had it in 3 times for thermostat problems. The scary model will be the 2003 with a genuinely new 1.8 liter motor.
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Say it aint so....please
Say it aint so....please
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well you would think that with the issues that MB has had with thier cars, they would get this right.... wishful thinking i know
well you would think that with the issues that MB has had with thier cars, they would get this right.... wishful thinking i know
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Automobile as an Appliance
Originally posted by galaxygrrl
Dare I say....Hondas look better all the time.
Dare I say....Hondas look better all the time.
Buy a Toyota if little glitches bother you that much, preferably a small, simple one like the Starlet (N/A in USA, too bad). They are the most reliable cars in the world.
Hondas are not that much more reliable than M-B, according to European reliability surveys, in some cases worse.
It's too bad that Maytag and Sears-Kenmore don't make cars...
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It's too bad that Maytag and Sears-Kenmore don't make cars...
It's too bad that Maytag and Sears-Kenmore don't make cars...
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How about Sears Craftsman cars? If you break it, you just take it back for a no questions asked replacement.
How about Sears Craftsman cars? If you break it, you just take it back for a no questions asked replacement.
lol
Sounds better than needing to hire a lawyer.
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As if every other brand out there doesn't have its share of lemons
As if every other brand out there doesn't have its share of lemons
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