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Old Apr 5, 2026 | 10:23 AM
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prefacelift m111 tuning

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I got a 98 slk 230 is there any tuning for these prefacelift as i know it has a me 2.0 and not the 2.8 im framiliar using the galleto 1260 as I have a 03 tuned 32 and a m112k swapped c320 that is heavily modified. Im trying to get a tune for long tubes I picked up as I know you dont need a tune for these i just dont want the cel for cats and also id like to do a smaller pulley and upgraded pump and injectors for e just a simple little fun build. Also would anyone know anything on upgrading the stock ic figured that be a worth option while adding boost as both my m112k cars have split cooling and upgraded heat exchangers being air to water where as the 111k is air cooled so I'd like to upgrade the intercooler if possible and keep it as close as oem looking or the least amount of fab work unless there's no other option then if anyone has a ic they used and had to fab up piping im open to suggestions as this is my first m111k car so I know nothing about these engines really
IIRC prefacelift isnt hard to tune, galleto works theres some threads about it on SLKworld, plus if you need more fuel without changing maps you can get a VAG fuel pressure regulator straight onto your fuel rail. The intercooler upgrade isnt bad either, silicone boost fittings work fine on pre facelift supercharger outlet and inlet.
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Old May 1, 2026 | 01:16 PM
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I hope you all had a nice Christmas!

I searched for my old WInOLS stuff and forgot everything, just re-installed the Galletto soft and will read out the ECU again, first try I get a low voltage warning, right now at the charger at freezing temps.
Haven't found a working WinOLS on my harddrives, must find a new free version.
To get this running would be a big step forward. ols is way to expensive if you want to tune your own car.
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The first map looks identical to the base fuel map and it looks like it was increased around high load high rpm.
this ecu has no information, im finding a hard time tuning it
i found another fuel map identical and then 8 maps identical to ign part and full as well as duplicate PUC maps
Fuel map duplicate 1 - 194F2
Full Load Ign Duplicate 1 - 12A49
Full Load Ign Duplicate 2 - 19A49
Full Load Ign Duplicate 3 - 20A49
Full Load Ign Duplicate 4 - 27A49
Part load ign duplicate 1 - 12C41
Part load ign duplicate 2 - 19C41
Part load ign duplicate 3 - 20C41
Part load ign duplicate 4 - 27C41
PUC TCO DUPES -
121A8
12236

191A8
19236

201A8
20236

271A8
27236

Im not sure if its for emissions modes or limp or calibrations, but right now i just tried to increase the original base fuel at top end and add -10 degrees of timing at low load (on the original maps Ntinosath uploaded) for some pops and bangs and im not sure whats wrong
its a wierd issue, i increased rev lim park and uploaded, started the car, revved it up and it had some quiet ish crackles (im catless) but after 1 or 2 mins it completely goes away and its just faint burbles. It does this hot or cold start, some light crackles on decel but after a minute nothing. If anyone has an idea i dont mind trying it and reporting back
Hello guys!
I see here you want to do more with this ecu
For start, you see multiple maps that are the same because of variant coding. These ecus were not installed on only one car.
The maps that i had uploaded are the first block of maps. If you copy paste them with 7000 offset you will find the exact same maps, but for another car. This ecu, the SIM4LE, has like 5 blocks of identical maps, for different cars with m111.

All this time I have been developing on this ecu and finding maps, because i wanted to have the perfect result.
The problem with pops and bangs is that all this time the fuel map that we had is not the perfect one. Everyone has this map, even ECM titanium. But its not the correct one. This map is a maf g/s correction map, and the car doesnt listen to this map all the time.
This ecu has 2 main fuel maps, the one is a main map and the other is a protection map. This protection map is for when you have excessive knock or something.
I found also that you can tune bigger injectors from this map, without having to install a rising rate fuel pressure regulator. I did it and i have a very good mixture.
I still havent found the injector constant which surely is a 16 bit value in the 0x9500 to 0x9adf and the unit is (ms of injection)/(mg/stk)

Some guys on the winols database say that this ecu, has a lambda simulated map (simulated because the sim4le is narrowband, and cant see actual lambda). This map is a wrong map, and dont use it

I believe that the fueling in this ecu is working like that:
Injector constant multiplied by the calculated mg/stk and again calculated by the fuel map that I have told. This gets the final injection time.

In the two maps (base and protection), x axis is load, y axis is rpm.

I have the feeling that this ecu doesnt have a conventional boost limiter, and it calculates if the boost is approriate from the map IP_MAF_SP: set point cylinder charge.
I have 2 max torque difference maps, but havent yet tested them.

All these are in the map pack that I have attached. With these maps, we tuned with a friend a m111 that he swapped the m45 supercharger and installed a m62, and the car works very good.

As I have seen no tuner has ever got that deep on this ecu, and the tunes they make are not that great. They only tune ignition timing and the wrong fuel map.
If you want to tune this ecu, and you have knowledge about engines and cars, get a kessv2 clone, a good diagnostic device, download WinOLS 2.24, and do it youself. You have many chances to do a better job than many of the tuners.
I will even create a tunerpro file (xdf). Its easier, because tunerpro is a free program.

Dont gate keep the knowledge, SHARE with the community
This engine and ecu combo has potential for many mods

In the attatchments you will find my stock file, my tuned file and a map pack for my software.
My car has bosch 0280158124 injectors 390cc, rising rate fuel pressure regulator set at 4bar base pressure, 215 kleemann crank pulley, 70mm supercharger pulley, replica supersprint headers, full 63.5 exhaust, stage 1 camshafts and it is an automatic.

P.S. In the map pack you will find some maps that i have tested and they havent worked also. I have let them inside, so you can test even more. Some maps that have ? mean that im not sure.
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ntinosath, Please help me. I installed a 68 mm pulley. I installed an exhaust manifold from a pre-restyling previous M111 version made of 4-2-1 steel. I also installed a large intercooler. I drive on LPG. There should be no detonation. Help me adjust the maps and remove the power and boost limiter. Also, remove the rev limiter to 6500 rpm. Mine is limited to 6000 rpm.

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Old May 4, 2026 | 07:19 AM
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ntinosath, Please help me. I installed a 68 mm pulley. I installed an exhaust manifold from a pre-restyling previous M111 version made of 4-2-1 steel. I also installed a large intercooler. I drive on LPG. There should be no detonation. Help me adjust the maps and remove the power and boost limiter. Also, remove the rev limiter to 6500 rpm. Mine is limited to 6000 rpm.
Hey!

Running LPG doesn’t automatically mean no detonation, yes, it has higher octane, but it also doesn’t provide the same charge cooling as gasoline. At high RPM and boost, especially with a smaller pulley and more airflow, you can still run into high cylinder temps. You must monitor afr with a wideband and knock retard with a good diagnostic device (like star or launch or a device that has a good diagnostic read output for this ecu)

FYI i think that the prefacelift m111 4-2-1 manifold is capped to 200hp as the stock of our evo cars. Anyone can correct me on that

With which tool you read/write your ecu?
Do you have diagnostic device? WinOLS for ecu tuning?
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Old May 4, 2026 | 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by 112233
I hope you all had a nice Christmas!

I searched for my old WInOLS stuff and forgot everything, just re-installed the Galletto soft and will read out the ECU again, first try I get a low voltage warning, right now at the charger at freezing temps.
Haven't found a working WinOLS on my harddrives, must find a new free version.
To get this running would be a big step forward. ols is way to expensive if you want to tune your own car.
You found winols finally? it generally appears to many internet forums for free. The 2.24 version
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Old May 4, 2026 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ntinosath
Привет!

Использование сжиженного газа не означает срабатывания детонации. Да, у него более высокое октановое число, но он также не обеспечивает такого же охлаждения наддувочного воздуха, как бензин. При высоких оборотах и ​​при низком давлении наддува, особенно с включением шкива и большим потоком воздуха, вы все равно можете сохранять постоянную температуру в цилиндрах. Необходимо контролировать положение воздух/топливо с помощью широкополосного датчика и задержку зажигания при детонации с помощью хорошего диагностического устройства (например, Star или Launch, или устройства с хорошим диагностическим выходом для этого ЭБУ).

К мысли, я думаю, что дорестайлинговый коллектор М111 4-2-1 ограничен по мощности в 200 л.с., как и стоковые автомобили Evo. Кто-нибудь может меня поправить?

С помощью какого инструмента вы считываете/записываете данные с ЭБУ?
У вас есть диагностическое устройство? WinOLS для настройки ЭБУ?
У меня есть выхлопная система из нержавеющей стали от запроса M111K. Шкив компрессора 64 мм. У меня есть оригинальный KessV2 для чтения и записей. У меня есть WinOLS, но как бы я ни старался, ничего не получается. Я понимаю, что без прошивки эти модификации не дают никакого результата. Пожалуйста, помогите мне изменить прошивку, если вы знаете, как это сделать. Я также купил компрессор от Audi 3.0 TFSI. Если аккуратно удалить лишнее, получится Eton 1320. Я очень хочу его установить. Вопрос: какое давление показывает MAP и MAF? У меня также есть АЭМ ЛГУ. I have app dashcomand, i see boost, ign, temp maf, temp coolant. And More


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Old May 4, 2026 | 05:33 PM
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I have a stainless steel exhaust system from a previous M111K. The compressor pulley is 64mm. I have a kessv2 analog for reading and writing. I have Winols, but no matter how hard I try, I can't get anything done. I understand that without the firmware, these modifications don't produce any results. Please help me change the firmware if you know how. I also bought a compressor from an Audi 3.0 TFSI. If I carefully remove the excess, I get an ETON 1320. I really want to install it. Question: What pressure does the MAP and MAF see? I also have an AEM LSU. I have the Dashcomand app, I can see boost, ignition, MAF temperature, coolant temperature, and much more.
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Old May 4, 2026 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ntinosath
Hey!

Running LPG doesn’t automatically mean no detonation, yes, it has higher octane, but it also doesn’t provide the same charge cooling as gasoline. At high RPM and boost, especially with a smaller pulley and more airflow, you can still run into high cylinder temps. You must monitor afr with a wideband and knock retard with a good diagnostic device (like star or launch or a device that has a good diagnostic read output for this ecu)

FYI i think that the prefacelift m111 4-2-1 manifold is capped to 200hp as the stock of our evo cars. Anyone can correct me on that

With which tool you read/write your ecu?
Do you have diagnostic device? WinOLS for ecu tuning?
I have a stainless steel exhaust system from a previous M111K. The compressor pulley is 64mm. I have a kessv2 analog for reading and writing. I have Winols, but no matter how hard I try, I can't get anything done. I understand that without the firmware, these modifications don't produce any results. Please help me change the firmware if you know how. I also bought a compressor from an Audi 3.0 TFSI. If I carefully remove the excess, I get an ETON 1320. I really want to install it. Question: What pressure does the MAP and MAF see? I also have an AEM LSU. I have the Dashcomand app, I can see boost, ignition, MAF temperature, coolant temperature, and much more.
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Originally Posted by ntinosath
Hey!

Running LPG doesn’t automatically mean no detonation, yes, it has higher octane, but it also doesn’t provide the same charge cooling as gasoline. At high RPM and boost, especially with a smaller pulley and more airflow, you can still run into high cylinder temps. You must monitor afr with a wideband and knock retard with a good diagnostic device (like star or launch or a device that has a good diagnostic read output for this ecu)

FYI i think that the prefacelift m111 4-2-1 manifold is capped to 200hp as the stock of our evo cars. Anyone can correct me on that

With which tool you read/write your ecu?
Do you have diagnostic device? WinOLS for ecu tuning?
I have a stainless steel exhaust system from a previous M111K. The compressor pulley is 64mm. I have a kessv2 analog for reading and writing. I have Winols, but no matter how hard I try, I can't get anything done. I understand that without the firmware, these modifications don't produce any results. Please help me change the firmware if you know how. I also bought a compressor from an Audi 3.0 TFSI. If I carefully remove the excess, I get an ETON 1320. I really want to install it. Question: What pressure does the MAP and MAF see? I also have an AEM LSU. I have the Dashcomand app, I can see boost, ignition, MAF temperature, coolant temperature, and much more.
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Old May 4, 2026 | 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ntinosath
Привет!

Использование сжиженного газа не означает автоматически отсутствие детонации. Да, у него более высокое октановое число, но он также не обеспечивает такого же охлаждения наддувочного воздуха, как бензин. На высоких оборотах и ​​при высоком давлении наддува, особенно с меньшим шкивом и большим потоком воздуха, вы все равно можете столкнуться с высокими температурами в цилиндрах. Необходимо контролировать соотношение воздух/топливо с помощью широкополосного датчика и задержку зажигания при детонации с помощью хорошего диагностического устройства (например, Star или Launch, или устройства с хорошим диагностическим выводом для этого ЭБУ).

К сведению, я думаю, что впускной коллектор M111 4-2-1 до рестайлинга ограничен 200 л.с., как и у наших автомобилей Evo. Кто-нибудь может меня поправить?

С помощью какого инструмента вы считываете/записываете данные в ЭБУ?
У вас есть диагностическое устройство? WinOLS для настройки ЭБУ?

I have a stainless steel exhaust system from a previous M111K. The compressor pulley is 64mm. I have a kessv2 analog for reading and writing. I have Winols, but no matter how hard I try, I can't get anything done. I understand that without the firmware, these modifications don't produce any results. Please help me change the firmware if you know how. I also bought a compressor from an Audi 3.0 TFSI. If I carefully remove the excess, I get an ETON 1320. I really want to install it. Question: What pressure does the MAP and MAF see? I also have an AEM LSU. I have the Dashcomand app, I can see boost, ignition, MAF temperature, coolant temperature, and much more.

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[QUOTE=ntinosath;9286823]Привет!

Использование сжиженного газа не означает срабатывания детонации. Да, у него более высокое октановое число, но он также не обеспечивает такого же охлаждения наддувочного воздуха, как бензин. При высоких оборотах и ​​при низком давлении наддува, особенно с включением шкива и большим потоком воздуха, вы все равно можете сохранять постоянную температуру в цилиндрах. Необходимо контролировать положение воздух/топливо с помощью широкополосного датчика и задержку зажигания при детонации с помощью хорошего диагностического устройства (например, Star или Launch, или устройства с хорошим диагностическим выходом для этого ЭБУ).

К выводу, я думаю, что впускной коллектор М111 4-2-1 до рестайлинга ограничен 200 л.с., как и у наших автомобилей Evo. Кто-нибудь может меня поправить?

Как вы считываете/записываете данные в ЭБУ?
У вас есть диагностическое устройство? WinOLS для настройки ЭБУ?[/QUOTE
]



I expressed myself incorrectly. The 4.2.1 exhaust is made of stainless steel; the picture is in the attachment. Regarding LPG, I won't have any problems with the fuel quantity, since when the LPG injectors run out, I'll mix gas with gasoline and keep the mixture at 12-12.5. By the way, I have an AEM UEGO. I have a Greddy intercooler. In the future, I want to install liquid cooling for the intercooler. I also bought a compressor from an Audi 3.0 TFSI. If modified, it will become an Eaton 1320. I haven't figured out Winols yet, and frankly, I'm afraid to edit it. I'm hoping for your professional help. I have a 64mm pulley, but the boost doesn't exceed 0.4-0.5 bar. I won't install it until I change the firmware and will replace it with a liquid intercooler. Please help me edit the firmware. By the way, I read and write the firmware using an analog called KESSv2.


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Old May 5, 2026 | 04:59 AM
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Originally Posted by ntinosath
Привет!

Использование сжиженного газа не означает срабатывания детонации. Да, у него более высокое октановое число, но он также не обеспечивает такого же охлаждения наддувочного воздуха, как бензин. При высоких оборотах и ​​при низком давлении наддува, особенно с включением шкива и большим потоком воздуха, вы все равно можете сохранять постоянную температуру в цилиндрах. Необходимо контролировать положение воздух/топливо с помощью широкополосного датчика и задержку зажигания при детонации с помощью хорошего диагностического устройства (например, Star или Launch, или устройства с хорошим диагностическим выходом для этого ЭБУ).

К выводу, я думаю, что впускной коллектор М111 4-2-1 до рестайлинга ограничен 200 л.с., как и у наших автомобилей Evo. Кто-нибудь может меня поправить?

Как вы считываете/записываете данные в ЭБУ?
У вас есть диагностическое устройство? WinOLS для настройки ЭБУ?[/QUOTE
]



I expressed myself incorrectly. The 4.2.1 exhaust is made of stainless steel; the picture is in the attachment. Regarding LPG, I won't have any problems with the fuel quantity, since when the LPG injectors run out, I'll mix gas with gasoline and keep the mixture at 12-12.5. By the way, I have an AEM UEGO. I have a Greddy intercooler. In the future, I want to install liquid cooling for the intercooler. I also bought a compressor from an Audi 3.0 TFSI. If modified, it will become an Eaton 1320. I haven't figured out Winols yet, and frankly, I'm afraid to edit it. I'm hoping for your professional help. I have a 64mm pulley, but the boost doesn't exceed 0.4-0.5 bar. I won't install it until I change the firmware and will replace it with a liquid intercooler. Please help me edit the firmware. By the way, I read and write the firmware using an analog called KESSv2.

okay I see do you have a diagnostic device? You will have to log the knock retard to be sure.
I would say that it would be safest to be around afr 11.9.

with the 64mm pulley you get around 17000 rpm at redline. The boost that you see is okay. With the tune you will not see more as it is not so limiting on boost. The aem wideband that you have is a huge plus.

Oh the Audi supercharger that becomes TVS1320 is the thing that I saw like a week ago on gkingz in Facebook?

upload your original file and any tuned files if you have and I will help you do it
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okay I see do you have a diagnostic device? You will have to log the knock retard to be sure.
I would say that it would be safest to be around afr 11.9.

with the 64mm pulley you get around 17000 rpm at redline. The boost that you see is okay. With the tune you will not see more as it is not so limiting on boost. The aem wideband that you have is a huge plus.

Oh the Audi supercharger that becomes TVS1320 is the thing that I saw like a week ago on gkingz in Facebook?

upload your original file and any tuned files if you have and I will help you do it

Ok i read firmware and send you thanks
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Хорошо, понятно. У вас есть диагностическое устройство? Чтобы убедиться, вам необходимо будет записать данные о детонации.
Я бы сказал, что безопаснее всего будет значение AFR около 11,9.

С 64-миллиметровым шкивом вы развиваетесь около 17000 об/мин на максимальных оборотах. Давление наддува, которое вы видите, нормальное. С настройкой вы не увидите большего, так как давление наддува не так сильно ограничивается. Ваш широкополосный лямбда-зонд АЭМ — это огромный плюс.

О, нагнетатель Audi, который становится TVS1320, это то, что я видел несколько недель назад на gkingz в Facebook?

Загрузите свой оригинальный файл и любые файлы настроек, если они у вас есть, и я помог вам это сделать.



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Drive .A year ago, I swapped a 2001 M111evo 2.3 clk. But I didn't replace the ECU. I still have the ECU from the 2.0 163hp.

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Old May 7, 2026 | 09:45 AM
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Hello,

attached you find a tuned version for an C200K Evo with double pulley mod. That means a smaller charger and a bigger cranckshaft pulley, around 12 psi boost
Unfortunately I cannot find the WinOLS 2.24 version to analyze it.
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Originally Posted by ntinosath
You found winols finally? it generally appears to many internet forums for free. The 2.24 version
Have only found files with installers who download parts from somewhere. The only I got is a 2.26 version.
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Did you manage to calibrate the firmware?


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[QUOTE=112233;9288116]Здравствуйте,

во вложении вы найдете тюнингованную версию для C200K Evo с модификацией двойного шкива. Это означает меньший нагнетатель и больший шкив коленчатого вала, давление наддува около 12 psi.
К сожалению, я не могу найти версию WinOLS 2.24 для анализа.
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Is this firmware for a manual or automatic transmission?
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Old May 8, 2026 | 08:05 AM
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2001 W203 C200 Kompressor
firmware is the same between manual and auto its just variant coding

[QUOTE=M111K_EVO;9288440]
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Здравствуйте,

во вложении вы найдете тюнингованную версию для C200K Evo с модификацией двойного шкива. Это означает меньший нагнетатель и больший шкив коленчатого вала, давление наддува около 12 psi.
К сожалению, я не могу найти версию WinOLS 2.24 для анализа.
Удачи![/QUOTE
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[QUOTE=M111K_EVO;9288440]
Originally Posted by 112233
Здравствуйте,

во вложении вы найдете тюнингованную версию для C200K Evo с модификацией двойного шкива. Это означает меньший нагнетатель и больший шкив коленчатого вала, давление наддува около 12 psi.
К сожалению, я не могу найти версию WinOLS 2.24 для анализа.
Удачи![/QUOTE
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Is this firmware for a manual or automatic transmission?
Automatic

Regarding the 4-2-1 manifold above, it is the old M111 style, for the M111Evo the 3Y type from the 230 or 180 flows better.

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okay I see do you have a diagnostic device? You will have to log the knock retard to be sure.
I would say that it would be safest to be around afr 11.9.

with the 64mm pulley you get around 17000 rpm at redline. The boost that you see is okay. With the tune you will not see more as it is not so limiting on boost. The aem wideband that you have is a huge plus.

Oh the Audi supercharger that becomes TVS1320 is the thing that I saw like a week ago on gkingz in Facebook?

upload your original file and any tuned files if you have and I will help you do it
Hi, Did you manage to modify my firmware?
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