Useful and useless options
#1
Useful and useless options
I think what options to include or drop and do not exceed 29K price
so there are different choices:
stand. paint + premium pkg = 28,315
metallic paint + cloth + sunroof + C7 = 28,000
stand.paint + leather + sunroof + C7 = 28,770
stand.paint + power seats + sunroof + C7 = 28,585
I can survive without metallic paint and power seats but sunroof is a MUST. leather would be nice too but I have to drop C7 in this case.
Does C7 really worth the money?
so there are different choices:
stand. paint + premium pkg = 28,315
metallic paint + cloth + sunroof + C7 = 28,000
stand.paint + leather + sunroof + C7 = 28,770
stand.paint + power seats + sunroof + C7 = 28,585
I can survive without metallic paint and power seats but sunroof is a MUST. leather would be nice too but I have to drop C7 in this case.
Does C7 really worth the money?
#3
stand.paint + power seats + sunroof + C7 = 28,585
Memory seats are a MUST if you share the car with someone. Also makes getting into and out of the car much easier. Try messing with those manual seat adjustments then make a decision.
The roof is a MUST on this car (but you knew that already).
The C7 is worth much more than $750. The wheels alone cost $299/per. Short shifter is $200-$300 (I think that's what Bos paid). Plus you get a better(?) sounding exhaust and painted door handles to scratch. Just make sure you get snow tires if you drive it in snow.
Leather is nice but I could have lived with the oyster cloth.
Memory seats are a MUST if you share the car with someone. Also makes getting into and out of the car much easier. Try messing with those manual seat adjustments then make a decision.
The roof is a MUST on this car (but you knew that already).
The C7 is worth much more than $750. The wheels alone cost $299/per. Short shifter is $200-$300 (I think that's what Bos paid). Plus you get a better(?) sounding exhaust and painted door handles to scratch. Just make sure you get snow tires if you drive it in snow.
Leather is nice but I could have lived with the oyster cloth.
#4
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2004 Civic Si. FWD for the Win!
My choice
would be:
metallic paint + cloth + sunroof + C7 = 28,000
The leather can always be added later for about the same price, and you can get more choices other than hot charcoal or stainable oyster.
Adding something similar to the C7 pkg will run you much more money; just the door handles alone make the package worthwhile. Of course, you could get a std. black car without the C7 pkg, and that would look fine, but only boring people get the black.
Or (this would be my choice), just get everything that you want, and rationalize it somehow. Do the math, and see how much more of a down payment or monthy payment you'd have to make. Shouldn't be too much. Don't forget that you have to live with this car for many years, so don't have any regrets!
metallic paint + cloth + sunroof + C7 = 28,000
The leather can always be added later for about the same price, and you can get more choices other than hot charcoal or stainable oyster.
Adding something similar to the C7 pkg will run you much more money; just the door handles alone make the package worthwhile. Of course, you could get a std. black car without the C7 pkg, and that would look fine, but only boring people get the black.
Or (this would be my choice), just get everything that you want, and rationalize it somehow. Do the math, and see how much more of a down payment or monthy payment you'd have to make. Shouldn't be too much. Don't forget that you have to live with this car for many years, so don't have any regrets!
#5
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Joined: May 2002
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From: All Around Dallas-Fort Worth
2002 C230K, 2001 Audi TT 225 Coupe
Must haves . .. .
I think are the C5 and C7 at the minimum. That should bring you in under your figure . . . my dealer took of 2%, threw in some all season mats and $50 certificate and I think you come in under $29k, about $28.5k.
In case of trade in or resale, you need the C5. It adds a bunch of value, IMO and the C7 is more than worth it price tag.
Have fun.
In case of trade in or resale, you need the C5. It adds a bunch of value, IMO and the C7 is more than worth it price tag.
Have fun.
#6
stand.paint + power seats + sunroof + C7 = 28,585
Without a doubt.
Leather is a dog - cloth is not only more comfortable but also grips your body better in corners.
Paint is paint, don't pay more than you have to
Power seats - I have them on my C240 and love them. I got a loaner C240 while having mine serviced the other day and it did not have power seats. Not only is adjusting them harder, but they did not have nearly the range of travel as the power seats, especially in tilting of the seat bottom. Very flat and uncomfortable. Compare them before you buy.
Sunroof - would not have a German car without one.
C7 - IQ test - if you don't order it you MUST have a low IQ
Without a doubt.
Leather is a dog - cloth is not only more comfortable but also grips your body better in corners.
Paint is paint, don't pay more than you have to
Power seats - I have them on my C240 and love them. I got a loaner C240 while having mine serviced the other day and it did not have power seats. Not only is adjusting them harder, but they did not have nearly the range of travel as the power seats, especially in tilting of the seat bottom. Very flat and uncomfortable. Compare them before you buy.
Sunroof - would not have a German car without one.
C7 - IQ test - if you don't order it you MUST have a low IQ
#7
Originally posted by patronus
C7 - IQ test - if you don't order it you MUST have a low IQ
C7 - IQ test - if you don't order it you MUST have a low IQ
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#8
Originally posted by session
the C7 is great if you live in southern california... not the northeast US.
the C7 is great if you live in southern california... not the northeast US.
#9
Even if you live in snow zone, you can change your tire to the all season by paying $150/tire. I think it is still deal. Nicer rim, body color handles, etc. This is a MUST.
And I never like the aftermarket leather, So pick the leather. This MB leather seat is a lot better than others. It has perforations on the seating area, it keeps the summer leather cool, and winter leather warm. But, it is your choice.
Power Seat??? What is this for if your are the only driver. I am not change my seat since the day I got mine. It is useless. Well, if you have a co-driver, that is different story.
I like my ROOF :p I think this is a must, too. And I like the rain sensor.
I didn't want to pay almost 700 dollars for the paint, and I love my white color. IMO metallic color fee is BS.
Good Luck!!!
And I never like the aftermarket leather, So pick the leather. This MB leather seat is a lot better than others. It has perforations on the seating area, it keeps the summer leather cool, and winter leather warm. But, it is your choice.
Power Seat??? What is this for if your are the only driver. I am not change my seat since the day I got mine. It is useless. Well, if you have a co-driver, that is different story.
I like my ROOF :p I think this is a must, too. And I like the rain sensor.
I didn't want to pay almost 700 dollars for the paint, and I love my white color. IMO metallic color fee is BS.
Good Luck!!!
Last edited by MBSang; 05-31-2002 at 11:59 AM.
#10
Originally posted by avlis
Short shifter is $200-$300 (I think that's what Bos paid).
Short shifter is $200-$300 (I think that's what Bos paid).
It's possible that the C7 arguement could be a moot point for ordering a new 2003 C230K since it (like all of the other "sport" options) wasn't listed on the options list nabzy (I think) posted a while back.
Cheers, BT
#11
To answer the original question I'd go with:
Metallic- A cool car deserves a cool color (yes the charge sucks)
C7 - Read IQ test regardless of location
Put the remainder into either leather ( I feel its overpriced, but the cloth pattern is pretty nasty) or a CD changer (what I did)
As far as the sunroof- I found it to be very loud and intrusive of the cabin but it is cool no doubt. I was torn on it but my cheapness got the better of me on that one, besides from what I remember of it I don't really regret not getting it and I saved some heft too.
Metallic- A cool car deserves a cool color (yes the charge sucks)
C7 - Read IQ test regardless of location
Put the remainder into either leather ( I feel its overpriced, but the cloth pattern is pretty nasty) or a CD changer (what I did)
As far as the sunroof- I found it to be very loud and intrusive of the cabin but it is cool no doubt. I was torn on it but my cheapness got the better of me on that one, besides from what I remember of it I don't really regret not getting it and I saved some heft too.
#12
Power Seat??? What is this for if your are the only driver. I am not change my seat since the day I got mine. It is useless. Well, if you have a co-driver, that is different story.
As said before, you get more seat adjustment with the power option.
Also, I like to change my driving postion on long trips or for different conditions. I program a couple favorites into the memory and easily switch positions with the push of a button.
And another thing...with the power option the headrests power down when flipping the seatback forward (to access the rear seat). The manual seat headrests smash into the headliner mid-flip (so I'm told).
#13
Originally posted by zimmer26
To answer the original question I'd go with:
Metallic- A cool car deserves a cool color (yes the charge sucks)
C7 - Read IQ test regardless of location
To answer the original question I'd go with:
Metallic- A cool car deserves a cool color (yes the charge sucks)
C7 - Read IQ test regardless of location
#14
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From: Vancouver Island, B.C. Canada
2005 smart cabrio; 2008 Mercedes-Benz B 200
Red
Originally posted by awaken
Red attracts too much attention.
Red attracts too much attention.
White on this car looks OK too, as does silver, but silver M-Bs are ubiquitous, hence the colour is absolutely without distinction. I really don't know why anyone would want a black car, but that's just me. Having a black glass roof is enough anyway.
#15
Originally posted by patronus
C7 - IQ test - if you don't order it you MUST have a low IQ
C7 - IQ test - if you don't order it you MUST have a low IQ
#16
Originally posted by viper
Actually I disagree and I speak from experience. If you live in Canada or anywhere where it snows the C7 tire and wheel combination is absolutely useless. You better be prepared to purchase some good snow tires. Plus the fact the C7 tires wear
Actually I disagree and I speak from experience. If you live in Canada or anywhere where it snows the C7 tire and wheel combination is absolutely useless. You better be prepared to purchase some good snow tires. Plus the fact the C7 tires wear
What tires they include into C7 package?
#17
Originally posted by awaken
What tires they include into C7 package?
What tires they include into C7 package?
#18
Originally posted by viper
C7 comes with either Michelin Pilots or Continentals. The Pilots are the preferred tire in this forum for reasons I don't quite understand.
C7 comes with either Michelin Pilots or Continentals. The Pilots are the preferred tire in this forum for reasons I don't quite understand.
Cheers, BT
Last edited by trench; 06-03-2002 at 02:54 PM.
#19
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From: All Around Dallas-Fort Worth
2002 C230K, 2001 Audi TT 225 Coupe
From comments I have read
when looking at tires at tirerack.com and other reviews, people just said the Contis were a piece of crap - that they were loud and had little grip - and that the Michelins were quiet and had tons of grip - even if they lost their tread quicker.
My only comment is that the only thing between you and the road is your tires. If you like to have fun, get the Michelins - which sell for about $185 at tirerack, or for a better buy get the Bridgestone S-03s for about $167. But these are tires for warmish weather (not below freezing) and rain. I have heard (read) that these tires lose their grippiness in very cold weather (possibly because of the compounds from which they are made)
If you go into cold freeezing winters and want grip, you are better off getting some steel rims and some all seasons.
Or if you don't have a lot of fun in twisties and want one tire, try the Michelin Pilot A/S (all seasons). They are pricey but should last a long time.
My only comment is that the only thing between you and the road is your tires. If you like to have fun, get the Michelins - which sell for about $185 at tirerack, or for a better buy get the Bridgestone S-03s for about $167. But these are tires for warmish weather (not below freezing) and rain. I have heard (read) that these tires lose their grippiness in very cold weather (possibly because of the compounds from which they are made)
If you go into cold freeezing winters and want grip, you are better off getting some steel rims and some all seasons.
Or if you don't have a lot of fun in twisties and want one tire, try the Michelin Pilot A/S (all seasons). They are pricey but should last a long time.