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Old 09-13-2007, 09:56 PM
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Just ignore this person who doesn't seem to understand common decency and spends way too much time trying to rain on Merc customer's parade. What a lifeless individual.
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Regarding the comment of public stigma regarding a BMW or Volvo. I'm not exactly certain what stigma they create. But you've opened the door wide up for how Mercedes is marketing the new C Class. It's on the name Mercedes". I saw the new commercial on TV today and it ends with "because we wanted to build a Mercedes". Then you see the $31k price shown.

Mercedes casts a bigger stigma in my mind than either of those other two brands mentioned. The ornament alone creates a stigma. And when I think of the C Class, I see a lot of people buying them hoping to tap into that stigma It's pretentious, and people will buy for that reason, even if it has an ugly interior.

A C Class is a Mercedes. But you don't get the real goods until you're ready to pay for an E or S class.
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A C Class is a Mercedes. But you don't get the real goods until you're ready to pay for an E or S class.[/QUOTE]

I am by no means a MB apologist. In fact, I was this close(puts his pointing finger and thumb less than an inch apart) to purchasing a 335. The C350 ended up being a better fit for me. However, I think the above quote can be applied to ALL entry level automobiles from the German "Big Three." From the 3-series BMW to the C-Class Benz to the Porsche Boxster. Yes, those are all ENTRY level automobiles for those of us who may not be in a position right now to purchase the "real goods." This does not mean that those automobiles are engineered any less than the "real goods" models but there will be some obvious cost cutting done on those entry level models to make them affordable. Otherwise, there would be no Boxster, 3er or C-Class.
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German "Big Three."
I would be remiss if didn't amend the above and include Audi and it's A4 line. No offense Audi fans!
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I would be remiss if didn't amend the above and include Audi and it's A4 line. No offense Audi fans!
I was just about to say...
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BMW did not. When the current 3 series came out in 2006 it had the old 325 and 330 engine. It wasn't until the 2007 MY that they updated the engines.
Wrong! The E90 330i never had the 225 hp engine (M54) from the E46 330i. When the E90 330i was first released in 2006, it had the 255 hp engine (N52). You need to check your sources again. Ive included a link from Car and Drivers test of the 2006 330i.

http://www.caranddriver.com/roadtest...30i-page3.html

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This is even worse in my opinion, because it's such a huge slap in the face to the customers that bought the car in the first year of it's production. Mercedes lets the current engines go on for a bit and then throw in the updated ones to bring some new life to the model line after it has been out for a while.
I agree, but people should also do their homework.


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Let's see:

Even though it was only for 1 year (2006) both the C280 and the C350 had more hp than the BMW engines. Pretty much every other engine Mercedes currently has beats out BMWs. The 550, 600, 450 all come to mind.
Wrong again buddy. You are basing your BMW numbers on an engine that wasn't even installed in the E90 3-Series.
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Old 09-14-2007, 12:35 PM
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shut the mouth fanboy nobody cares what u have to say in this MERCEDES BENZ forum
Live with it! LOL!
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<<Given the choice I would choose the 335 over the C350 in a heartbeat:>>

What mystifies me is why this debate even exists here. Most of us came to this forum to talk about the new C-class. It's pretty clear that you are a BMW person and so, why are you going on and on about how great they are? None of your points are going to change the minds of the MB drivers here. It's almost like the old PC vs Mac debates.
I agree, but the original subject of this post didn't have anything to do with BMW at all. The comparisons were started by some insecure folks here because they saw "2001 330i" in my sig. It does take two to tango, but all this comparison stuff started from the regulars that are here.


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As for me, the public stigma of being seen in a BMW (or Volvo, for that matter) is something I don't care to deal with.
OK. Nobody really asked, but OK.

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I am well aware of the various MB models shortcomings and even so, I am buying another one. Because it suits my tastes.
That's cool. But should someone else considering MB not be made aware of certain models shortcomings? Good or Bad comments should be allowed. But if you say something bad here, you get attacked by the goon squad.

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I will have owned my Porsche 24 years next month and there all all kinds of cars that will "spank" it and so what, I say. It still does the job.
Do you expect everyone to be like you? When you quote the word "spank" you are not quoting me, someone else said that.

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Even I think it's time for this thread to be closed.
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Wrong again buddy. You are basing your BMW numbers on an engine that wasn't even installed in the E90 3-Series.
Actually you are the one that is wrong. The 2006 BMW 325 had a 215hp V6 and the 330 had the 255hp engine as you point out. The 2006 Mercedes C280 had a 228 hp V6 and the C350 had 268hp. Both more powerful than the 3 series models of that year.
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Actually you are the one that is wrong. The 2006 BMW 325 had a 215hp V6 and the 330 had the 255hp engine as you point out. The 2006 Mercedes C280 had a 228 hp V6 and the C350 had 268hp. Both more powerful than the 3 series models of that year.
We were both wrong. You said that; "When the current 3 series came out in 2006 it had the old 325 and 330 engine. It wasn't until the 2007 MY that they updated the engines." Which was wrong.

I said that MB never made a "C" class that had a more powerful engine than the competing 3. Which was also wrong.

So we're even.
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We were both wrong. You said that; "When the current 3 series came out in 2006 it had the old 325 and 330 engine. It wasn't until the 2007 MY that they updated the engines." Which was wrong.

I said that MB never made a "C" class that had a more powerful engine than the competing 3. Which was also wrong.

So we're even.
Fair enough.
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Originally Posted by Spoonie View Post
We were both wrong. You said that; "When the current 3 series came out in 2006 it had the old 325 and 330 engine. It wasn't until the 2007 MY that they updated the engines." Which was wrong.

I said that MB never made a "C" class that had a more powerful engine than the competing 3. Which was also wrong.

So we're even.
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Do we all have to log in every day and see your annoying crap?? All you do is argue! Debating ok but you..you're worse than my wife...
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Do we all have to log in every day and see your annoying crap?? All you do is argue! Debating ok but you..you're worse than my wife...
Someone pointed out that I was wrong. Am I not allowed to defend myself, and point it out when someone else is wrong? Even the person in which I corrected (they also corrected me) said "fair enough".

What is your problem? I guess I'm not allowed to defend myself here, or even correct someone else here. Get a clue

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I could be wrong, but I think he was referring to the previous 85 posts...
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I could be wrong, but I think he was referring to the previous 85 posts...
Here we go again.

Two questions:

1) Am I not allowed to defend myself here?

2) Or am I supposed to accept completely wrong information without correcting the person?
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See post 89
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I could be wrong, but I think he was referring to the previous 85 posts...
Exactly but I should have quoted a different reply. Well, doesn't really matter.

Now back on topic....Yes, the interior does look a little sparse compared to the competition. That is my only complaint really. Would like to have the options available everywhere else but what can you do besides waiting.

On the other hand the interior is sort of a classic, modern, retro style as well. I don't think it's all that bad as its functional just a little boring especially the aluminum trim.

To each their own of course but it's a VERY subjective topic and hence the arguing. A thread started the way it was worded usually ends in people bashing each other. Seen it over and over...
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See post 89
I guess answering direct questions isn't your strong point. Post #89 doesn't answer a thing but your dislike for folks with an opinion.
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Here we go again.

Two questions:

1) Am I not allowed to defend myself here?

2) Or am I supposed to accept completely wrong information without correcting the person?


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Yeah... I guess you don't get it... See post #89...

If you don't get the point, then it is what it is...good luck to you.
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Getting the thread back on track....

I've seen the new C Class television commercial several times now. The one where they end saying they took 7 years to design the car so it would be a "Mercedes BENNZZ", and then the $31k Hondaish MSRP is shown.

What a disappointment the interior is when you go look with a preconceived notion of what a Mercedes Benz is like.

The new Accord, by the way, has a much nicer interior the the C Class.
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I do have to say that I absolutely love the interior of my (interior-style revised) 2006 C280....The wood trim accented by the metal strips with the gorgeous "flowing wood" style of the center console is just to die for. After seeing just pictures, I have to say the new C is very "bleah" and reminds me of the center console styling of a VW or something.

That being said, I'll reserve my full feelings for the interior until I get back from the C-drive at 1:30... Lets see how it actually feels/looks. As a warning, I'll be reviewing very honestly regarding space, functionality, etc as I'm seriously contemplating the new model...

Here's hoping the quality is better, else I agree that Honda Accords have VERY nice quality inside as compared.

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