C204 C-Class reliability
#51
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Updated results again next month. The more owners participate, the better the information we can provide. Especially need more 2009s and 2010s.
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Updated results later this month.
We're going to start providing new stats for the odds of requiring no repairs and the odds of getting a lemon. These require larger sample sizes, so additional participants would be helpful. Especially need 2009s and 2010s.
For the details, and to sign up:
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We're going to start providing new stats for the odds of requiring no repairs and the odds of getting a lemon. These require larger sample sizes, so additional participants would be helpful. Especially need 2009s and 2010s.
For the details, and to sign up:
Car reliability research
#53
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We have updated results for the W204 C-Class to include owner experiences through September 30, 2009. In terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:
2009: 45, about average, small sample size
2008: 40, better than average
We've also introduced, two new statistics, "Nada-odds" and "Lemon-odds," to indicate the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop.
In the case of the 2008 C-Class, the percentage with no repairs is about 69, and the percentage of lemons is about 3.
Nada-odds and Lemon-odds car reliability stats
Everyone who has been helping, thank you, once again. We'll have further updates in February and May. With more participants, we could provide more precise information and cover all model years. Especially need more 2009s and (once they're available) 2010s.
Mercedes-Benz C-Class reliability comparisons
2009: 45, about average, small sample size
2008: 40, better than average
We've also introduced, two new statistics, "Nada-odds" and "Lemon-odds," to indicate the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop.
In the case of the 2008 C-Class, the percentage with no repairs is about 69, and the percentage of lemons is about 3.
Nada-odds and Lemon-odds car reliability stats
Everyone who has been helping, thank you, once again. We'll have further updates in February and May. With more participants, we could provide more precise information and cover all model years. Especially need more 2009s and (once they're available) 2010s.
Mercedes-Benz C-Class reliability comparisons
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130 C204 owners now signed up. An excellent start, but more are needed to provide precise results for all model years. Especially need more 2009s and 2010s.
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Updated results next month.
Not yet signed up? Details here:
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Updated results next month.
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We have updated results for the W204 C-Class to include owner experiences through December 31, 2009. In terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:
2009: 50, about average, small sample size
2008: 27, better than average
We have two additional statistics, "Nada-odds" and "Lemon-odds," to indicate the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop.
In the case of the 2008 C-Class, the percentage with no repairs is about 71, and the percentage of lemons is about 3.
Nada-odds and Lemon-odds car reliability stats
Everyone who has been helping, thank you, once again. We'll have further updates in May and August. With more participants, we could provide more precise information and cover all model years. Especially need more 2009s and 2010s.
Mercedes-Benz C-Class reliability comparisons
2009: 50, about average, small sample size
2008: 27, better than average
We have two additional statistics, "Nada-odds" and "Lemon-odds," to indicate the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop.
In the case of the 2008 C-Class, the percentage with no repairs is about 71, and the percentage of lemons is about 3.
Nada-odds and Lemon-odds car reliability stats
Everyone who has been helping, thank you, once again. We'll have further updates in May and August. With more participants, we could provide more precise information and cover all model years. Especially need more 2009s and 2010s.
Mercedes-Benz C-Class reliability comparisons
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#61
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Just enhanced the related repair history survey so that it can (optionally) be used as a personal car maintenance record.
As always, more participants would be helpful. Especially need more 2009s and 2010s.
Updated Car Reliability Survey results in May, with a preview for participants in mid-April.
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As always, more participants would be helpful. Especially need more 2009s and 2010s.
Updated Car Reliability Survey results in May, with a preview for participants in mid-April.
Car reliability research
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Updated stats in about two weeks.
Especially need more participants for the 2009 and 2010.
Not yet signed up? Details here:
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Especially need more participants for the 2009 and 2010.
Not yet signed up? Details here:
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We have updated results for the W204 C-Class to include owner experiences through March 31, 2010. In terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:
2009: 44, about average
2008: 32, better than average
We have two additional statistics, "Nada-odds" and "Lemon-odds," to indicate the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop.
In the case of the 2008 C-Class, the percentage with no repairs is about 73, and the percentage of lemons is about 3.
Nada-odds and Lemon-odds car reliability stats
Everyone who has been helping, thank you, once again. We'll have further updates in August and November. With more participants, we could provide more precise information and cover all model years.
Mercedes-Benz C-Class reliability comparisons
2009: 44, about average
2008: 32, better than average
We have two additional statistics, "Nada-odds" and "Lemon-odds," to indicate the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop.
In the case of the 2008 C-Class, the percentage with no repairs is about 73, and the percentage of lemons is about 3.
Nada-odds and Lemon-odds car reliability stats
Everyone who has been helping, thank you, once again. We'll have further updates in August and November. With more participants, we could provide more precise information and cover all model years.
Mercedes-Benz C-Class reliability comparisons
#64
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514 owners now signed up for the C-Class, including 160 for the W204. A good start, but more remain needed to fully cover all model years.
To sign up:
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We have updated results for the C-Class to include owner experiences through June 30, 2010.
Other sources of car reliability information won't cover the more recent months until the summer or even fall of next year.
Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:
2009: 44, about average
2008: 28, better than average
Thank you, once again, to everyone who has been helping. We'll have further updates in November and February. With more participants, we could provide more precise information and cover all model years.
To see how competitors compare, and to sign up to help:
Mercedes-Benz C-Class reliability comparisons
Other sources of car reliability information won't cover the more recent months until the summer or even fall of next year.
Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:
2009: 44, about average
2008: 28, better than average
Thank you, once again, to everyone who has been helping. We'll have further updates in November and February. With more participants, we could provide more precise information and cover all model years.
To see how competitors compare, and to sign up to help:
Mercedes-Benz C-Class reliability comparisons
#66
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In a few days we'll start previewing the next set of results to participants. The preview results will be updated as responses come in.
As always, the more owners participate, the better the information we can provide to everyone.
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As always, the more owners participate, the better the information we can provide to everyone.
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#67
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Starting this month we have a new question to measure, as objectively as possible, the severity of a problem. Many people have been asking for reliability stats that weight problems by how severe they are, and once we have enough responses with the revised survey we'll start providing this.
Also this month: updated reliability stats.
Also this month: updated reliability stats.
#68
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We have updated results for the C-Class to include owner experiences through September 30, 2010. Other sources of car reliability information won't cover the months since April until the summer or even fall of next year.
Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:
2010: 14, better than average, small sample size
2009: 46, about average
2008: 32, better than average
We have two additional statistics, "Nada-odds" and "Lemon-odds," to indicate the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop.
With the 2008 the percentage with no repairs is about 80, while the percentage with 3+ repair trips is about 3.
Mercedes-Benz C-Class Lemon-odds and Nada-odds
Thank you, once again, to everyone who has been helping. We'll have further updates in February and May. With more participants, we could provide more precise information and cover all model years.
To see how competitors compare, and to sign up to help:
Mercedes-Benz C-Class reliability ratings and comparisons
Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:
2010: 14, better than average, small sample size
2009: 46, about average
2008: 32, better than average
We have two additional statistics, "Nada-odds" and "Lemon-odds," to indicate the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop.
With the 2008 the percentage with no repairs is about 80, while the percentage with 3+ repair trips is about 3.
Mercedes-Benz C-Class Lemon-odds and Nada-odds
Thank you, once again, to everyone who has been helping. We'll have further updates in February and May. With more participants, we could provide more precise information and cover all model years.
To see how competitors compare, and to sign up to help:
Mercedes-Benz C-Class reliability ratings and comparisons
#69
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We have updated results for the C-Class to include owner experiences through December 31, 2010. Other sources of car reliability information won't cover the months since April until the summer or even fall of this year.
Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:
2010: 29, better than average, small sample size
2009: 40, better than average
2008: 47, about average
We have two additional statistics, "Nada-odds" and "Lemon-odds," to indicate the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop.
With the 2008 the percentage with no repairs is about 77, while the percentage with 3+ repair trips is about 3.
Mercedes-Benz C-Class Lemon-odds and Nada-odds
Thank you, once again, to everyone who has been helping. We'll have further updates in May and August. With more participants, we could provide more precise information and cover all model years.
To see how competitors compare, and to sign up to help:
Mercedes-Benz C-Class reliability ratings and comparisons
Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:
2010: 29, better than average, small sample size
2009: 40, better than average
2008: 47, about average
We have two additional statistics, "Nada-odds" and "Lemon-odds," to indicate the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop.
With the 2008 the percentage with no repairs is about 77, while the percentage with 3+ repair trips is about 3.
Mercedes-Benz C-Class Lemon-odds and Nada-odds
Thank you, once again, to everyone who has been helping. We'll have further updates in May and August. With more participants, we could provide more precise information and cover all model years.
To see how competitors compare, and to sign up to help:
Mercedes-Benz C-Class reliability ratings and comparisons
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Lets all help Michael Karesh in this quest. Sign up and update your stats every three months (only if there has been a non-service repair). Surveys will come via email every 3 months, if nothing outside standard maintenance has been done, either no reply is needed, or only a mileage update is required.
Needed are more 2010 W204 owners, the sample size is statistically too small to be a significant sample. Help with this important independent survey to get the truth about MB quality and reliability.
Needed are more 2010 W204 owners, the sample size is statistically too small to be a significant sample. Help with this important independent survey to get the truth about MB quality and reliability.
Last edited by Acapulco Bill; 04-06-2011 at 07:20 PM. Reason: Corrected info
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Thanks, Bill, I appreciate this.
To clarify the system:
1. Emails with links to the survey go out each month, in case there has been a repair. I've found that people find it much harder to report a repair off the top of their head if more than a few weeks have passed.
2. If no repair, all that is needed is an approximate odometer reading following the end of each quarter. This takes most people about 30 seconds. Reporting a repair takes a couple of minutes. The typical newish car requires one repair every two years.
To clarify the system:
1. Emails with links to the survey go out each month, in case there has been a repair. I've found that people find it much harder to report a repair off the top of their head if more than a few weeks have passed.
2. If no repair, all that is needed is an approximate odometer reading following the end of each quarter. This takes most people about 30 seconds. Reporting a repair takes a couple of minutes. The typical newish car requires one repair every two years.
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We have updated our car reliability stats for the W204 C-Class to include owner experiences through March 31, 2011.
Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:
2010: 52, about average, small sample size
2009: 48, about average
2008: 53, about average
We have two additional statistics, "Nada-odds" and "Lemon-odds," to indicate the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop.
With the 2008 the percentage with no repairs is about 75, while the percentage with 3+ repair trips is about 3.
Mercedes-Benz C-Class Lemon-odds and Nada-odds
We'll have further updates in August and November. With more participants, we could provide more precise information and fully cover all model years.
To see how competitors compare, and to sign up to help improve this information:
Mercedes-Benz C-Class reliability ratings and comparisons
Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:
2010: 52, about average, small sample size
2009: 48, about average
2008: 53, about average
We have two additional statistics, "Nada-odds" and "Lemon-odds," to indicate the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop.
With the 2008 the percentage with no repairs is about 75, while the percentage with 3+ repair trips is about 3.
Mercedes-Benz C-Class Lemon-odds and Nada-odds
We'll have further updates in August and November. With more participants, we could provide more precise information and fully cover all model years.
To see how competitors compare, and to sign up to help improve this information:
Mercedes-Benz C-Class reliability ratings and comparisons
#74
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We have updated our car reliability stats for the W204 C-Class to include owner experiences through June 30, 2011.
Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:
2010: 63, about average, small sample size
2009: 47, about average
2008: 61, about average
We have two additional statistics, "Nada-odds" and "Lemon-odds," to indicate the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop.
With the 2008 the percentage with no repairs is about 64, while the percentage with 3+ repair trips is about 3.
Mercedes-Benz C-Class Lemon-odds and Nada-odds
We'll have further updates in November and February. With more participants, we could provide more precise information and cover all model years.
To see how competitors compare, and to sign up to help improve this information:
Mercedes-Benz C-Class reliability ratings and comparisons
Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:
2010: 63, about average, small sample size
2009: 47, about average
2008: 61, about average
We have two additional statistics, "Nada-odds" and "Lemon-odds," to indicate the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop.
With the 2008 the percentage with no repairs is about 64, while the percentage with 3+ repair trips is about 3.
Mercedes-Benz C-Class Lemon-odds and Nada-odds
We'll have further updates in November and February. With more participants, we could provide more precise information and cover all model years.
To see how competitors compare, and to sign up to help improve this information:
Mercedes-Benz C-Class reliability ratings and comparisons
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We have updated our reliability stats for the C-Class (on our redesigned site) to include owner experiences through September 30, 2011.
Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:
2010: 62, about average
2009: 46, about average
2008: 58, about average
We have two additional statistics, "Nada-odds" and "Lemon-odds," to indicate the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop.
With the 2008 the percentage with no repairs is about 58, while the percentage with 3+ repair trips is about 3.
Mercedes-Benz C-Class Lemon-odds and Nada-odds
Thank you, once again, to everyone who has been helping. We'll have further updates later this month and in May. With more participants, we could provide more precise information and cover all model years.
To see how competitors compare, and to sign up to help improve this information:
Mercedes-Benz C-Class reliability ratings and comparisons
Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:
2010: 62, about average
2009: 46, about average
2008: 58, about average
We have two additional statistics, "Nada-odds" and "Lemon-odds," to indicate the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop.
With the 2008 the percentage with no repairs is about 58, while the percentage with 3+ repair trips is about 3.
Mercedes-Benz C-Class Lemon-odds and Nada-odds
Thank you, once again, to everyone who has been helping. We'll have further updates later this month and in May. With more participants, we could provide more precise information and cover all model years.
To see how competitors compare, and to sign up to help improve this information:
Mercedes-Benz C-Class reliability ratings and comparisons