C350 4Matic how much $$$ in ....?! I telling YOU
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C350 4Matic how much $$$ in ....?! I telling YOU
i said CANADA cost
C350 4Matic (available in Canada)
P Package:
Pano roof
Keyless-Go
Linguatronic voice control
Comand Aps Navigation
Rear sunshade
MP3
10ways memory seat
Xenon light w washer
AMG styling
Fully loaded
except Leather
plus Quickpark + rear spoiler<=(opt in CAN) Tax included
Total USD$ 67600 (CAD$65000) on the road rate CAD$1 - $1.04
hv a nice day my MB friend ^^
C350 4Matic (available in Canada)
P Package:
Pano roof
Keyless-Go
Linguatronic voice control
Comand Aps Navigation
Rear sunshade
MP3
10ways memory seat
Xenon light w washer
AMG styling
Fully loaded
except Leather
plus Quickpark + rear spoiler<=(opt in CAN) Tax included
Total USD$ 67600 (CAD$65000) on the road rate CAD$1 - $1.04
hv a nice day my MB friend ^^
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I don't understand why people outside U.S. (especially Canada and Euro) is comparing how much they have to pay compared to U.S.
Sure a C350 costs $65k in Canada, but an equivalent model (probably C320)cost rougly the same 5 years ago. Did people in Canada all of a sudden become poor? Of course not. You're paying the same price you did 5 years ago when Canadian dollar was worth 63 U.S. cents.
The only group getting shafted are car manufacturers that has to export cars to U.S. from Europe.
Sure a C350 costs $65k in Canada, but an equivalent model (probably C320)cost rougly the same 5 years ago. Did people in Canada all of a sudden become poor? Of course not. You're paying the same price you did 5 years ago when Canadian dollar was worth 63 U.S. cents.
The only group getting shafted are car manufacturers that has to export cars to U.S. from Europe.
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I don't understand why people outside U.S. (especially Canada and Euro) is comparing how much they have to pay compared to U.S.
Sure a C350 costs $65k in Canada, but an equivalent model (probably C320)cost rougly the same 5 years ago. Did people in Canada all of a sudden become poor? Of course not. You're paying the same price you did 5 years ago when Canadian dollar was worth 63 U.S. cents.
The only group getting shafted are car manufacturers that has to export cars to U.S. from Europe.
Sure a C350 costs $65k in Canada, but an equivalent model (probably C320)cost rougly the same 5 years ago. Did people in Canada all of a sudden become poor? Of course not. You're paying the same price you did 5 years ago when Canadian dollar was worth 63 U.S. cents.
The only group getting shafted are car manufacturers that has to export cars to U.S. from Europe.
Fact of the matter is that the C320 did not cost $65K five years ago. The prices have gone up at the same time the CAD is appreciating. That is why there is such outrage.
I can accept that there are differences in economy size, vehicle content, regulations, taxes etc. between Canada and the U.S.. However, threatening dealers with revocation of licenses for selling to Canadians is strictly against NAFTA. And saying that you will charge $2000 "localisation fee" to initiate warranty coverage, and $500 for a recall letter to the RIV is just unfair business practice.
IMHO, of course.
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I did some search to get accurate pricing on the internet.
http://en.research.autos.sympatico.m...el=C-Class&ts=
In Canada, 2003 C320 (manual) cost $49,750 CAD.
In Canada, 2008 C350 (automatic with more stuff) cost $47,900 CAD.
Price actually fell.
In US, 2003 C320 cost $35,200 USD
In US, 2008 C350 cost $37,725 USD.
In the end, you're paying less for your C-class than you did 5 years ago, and Americans are paying more for their c-class than 5 years ago, regardless of what goes on in the currency exchange market.
But I do understand how it seems like the same car solid in America all of sudden look so cheap. But believe me, it's no deal for American consumers.
(Of course, it's a huge boon for American car mfr. exporting cars oversea, assuming their cost of building a car in the US weren't too adversely affected by the weak dollars)
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When our Canadian Dollar was valued way below the US Dollar we got use to the fact that we paid more Can Dollars for the same car.
Lately the Can Dollar has surpassed the US Dollar and we hoped that the manufacturers would immediately adjust their prices to reflect this fact.
I must agree there are others factors that play a role in that formula. A sudden major price reduction throws all existing owners a big curve when they try to trade-in their cars. Then the would be all these lease returns in the coming months.
Porsche did lower their prices drastically and some people asked for more money for their Porsche than the price of a new one. Were they in for a shock.
At least when we visit our friends in the USA we get an immediate benefit for our new currency value and the savings can be huge.
The market has a tendency to work these things out, over time.
Jorg
Lately the Can Dollar has surpassed the US Dollar and we hoped that the manufacturers would immediately adjust their prices to reflect this fact.
I must agree there are others factors that play a role in that formula. A sudden major price reduction throws all existing owners a big curve when they try to trade-in their cars. Then the would be all these lease returns in the coming months.
Porsche did lower their prices drastically and some people asked for more money for their Porsche than the price of a new one. Were they in for a shock.
At least when we visit our friends in the USA we get an immediate benefit for our new currency value and the savings can be huge.
The market has a tendency to work these things out, over time.
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Ok, let's look at it this way:
2003 C320 @ CAD $49,570 = EUR $31,760 (10/01/2002 rate of 0.63840)
2008 C350 @ CAD $47,900 = EUR $33,680 (10/01/2007 rate of 0.70689)
versus:
2003 C320 @ USD $35,200 = EUR $35,654 (10/01/2002 rate of 1.01290)
2008 C350 @ USD $37,725 = EUR $26,449 (10/01/2007 rate of 0.70110)
So Canadian went from paying $3,894 less than the Americans, to paying $7,231 more. Or a net of $11,125 increase.
I would certainly attribute the price drop in Canada to the expensive Canadian dollar, but don't understand how the Americans can be paying less. In order for MB to get the same amount of money (EUR $33,680) as a Canadian vehicle, the American should be paying USD $48,039.
Alternative, if per vehicle revenues should be EUR $26,449, then the Canadians should be paying CAD $37,416.
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Ok, let's look at it this way:
2003 C320 @ CAD $49,570 = EUR $31,760 (10/01/2002 rate of 0.63840)
2008 C350 @ CAD $47,900 = EUR $33,680 (10/01/2007 rate of 0.70689)
versus:
2003 C320 @ USD $35,200 = EUR $35,654 (10/01/2002 rate of 1.01290)
2008 C350 @ USD $37,725 = EUR $26,449 (10/01/2007 rate of 0.70110)
So Canadian went from paying $3,894 less than the Americans, to paying $7,231 more. Or a net of $11,125 increase.
I would certainly attribute the price drop in Canada to the expensive Canadian dollar, but don't understand how the Americans can be paying less. In order for MB to get the same amount of money (EUR $33,680) as a Canadian vehicle, the American should be paying USD $48,039.
Alternative, if per vehicle revenues should be EUR $26,449, then the Canadians should be paying CAD $37,416.
2003 C320 @ CAD $49,570 = EUR $31,760 (10/01/2002 rate of 0.63840)
2008 C350 @ CAD $47,900 = EUR $33,680 (10/01/2007 rate of 0.70689)
versus:
2003 C320 @ USD $35,200 = EUR $35,654 (10/01/2002 rate of 1.01290)
2008 C350 @ USD $37,725 = EUR $26,449 (10/01/2007 rate of 0.70110)
So Canadian went from paying $3,894 less than the Americans, to paying $7,231 more. Or a net of $11,125 increase.
I would certainly attribute the price drop in Canada to the expensive Canadian dollar, but don't understand how the Americans can be paying less. In order for MB to get the same amount of money (EUR $33,680) as a Canadian vehicle, the American should be paying USD $48,039.
Alternative, if per vehicle revenues should be EUR $26,449, then the Canadians should be paying CAD $37,416.
Forget what Americans are paying. Yes Mercedes is selling C350 for 21% LESS in the U.S. at $37,725 (instead of $48,039 you suggested). But Americans are NOT getting that 21% off. We're still paying the same amount we did 5 years ago, and so are the Canadians. Mercedes is taking that 21% hit because they would be priced out. Do you not agree with this?
Last edited by pcurve; Oct 31, 2007 at 04:50 PM.
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i said CANADA cost
C350 4Matic (available in Canada)
P Package:
Pano roof
Keyless-Go
Linguatronic voice control
Comand Aps Navigation
Rear sunshade
MP3
10ways memory seat
Xenon light w washer
AMG styling
Fully loaded
except Leather
plus Quickpark + rear spoiler<=(opt in CAN) Tax included
Total USD$ 67600 (CAD$65000) on the road rate CAD$1 - $1.04
hv a nice day my MB friend ^^
C350 4Matic (available in Canada)
P Package:
Pano roof
Keyless-Go
Linguatronic voice control
Comand Aps Navigation
Rear sunshade
MP3
10ways memory seat
Xenon light w washer
AMG styling
Fully loaded
except Leather
plus Quickpark + rear spoiler<=(opt in CAN) Tax included
Total USD$ 67600 (CAD$65000) on the road rate CAD$1 - $1.04
hv a nice day my MB friend ^^
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it sucks that us canadians pay so much more even tho our dollar is now stronger than the US.
id be getting a c63 100% if i lived in the states. but since i need a 4matic car in canada, im sticking with a 350
but now were paying 65,000+ for a c350 4 matic in canada.
its retarded. but what can you do?
id be getting a c63 100% if i lived in the states. but since i need a 4matic car in canada, im sticking with a 350
but now were paying 65,000+ for a c350 4 matic in canada.
its retarded. but what can you do?
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Why does it matter what car cost in relation to EURO? Do Canadians and Americans have to go to bank and get their money converted to EURO, because Mercedes dealers in Canada and America only accept EURO?
Forget what Americans are paying. Yes Mercedes is selling C350 for 21% LESS in the U.S. at $37,725 (instead of $48,039 you suggested). But Americans are NOT getting that 21% off. We're still paying the same amount we did 5 years ago, and so are the Canadians. Mercedes is taking that 21% hit because they would be priced out. Do you not agree with this?
Forget what Americans are paying. Yes Mercedes is selling C350 for 21% LESS in the U.S. at $37,725 (instead of $48,039 you suggested). But Americans are NOT getting that 21% off. We're still paying the same amount we did 5 years ago, and so are the Canadians. Mercedes is taking that 21% hit because they would be priced out. Do you not agree with this?
American suppliers use canadian gas and is cheaper there than here, that makes sense right?
Refusal of selling cars to canada is sensible and fair
Our dollar is worth more than yours, so we should have more buying power, alot more (coming from 60 cents)
There is a free trade agreement, so why do we get charged fee after fee after fee at the border?
why is it that before your cars cost less than ours and still got more than we did
I had an 05 c230, came out to be 45 with just auto and heated seats, sport was a few grand more
we're saying we've had enough either lower your prices or let us shop where we want to(chrysler has reduced their interest rates, walmart has dropped prices 10-20%)
What I want to know is where is is the extra 20-30% price increase coming from?
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It's called Supply & Demand. If the car is too overpriced in Canada, people will stop buying it and MB will lower the price.
Also, your assumption that US cars have more in them then Canadian cars is false. The W204 in Canada has many more standard and optional features then in the US (ex. Keyless go, memory seats, 350 4matic, more interior color options, etc).
The price is set by the market and MB will lower the price when Canadians stop buying the car.
Also, your assumption that US cars have more in them then Canadian cars is false. The W204 in Canada has many more standard and optional features then in the US (ex. Keyless go, memory seats, 350 4matic, more interior color options, etc).
The price is set by the market and MB will lower the price when Canadians stop buying the car.
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It's called Supply & Demand. If the car is too overpriced in Canada, people will stop buying it and MB will lower the price.
Also, your assumption that US cars have more in them then Canadian cars is false. The W204 in Canada has many more standard and optional features then in the US (ex. Keyless go, memory seats, 350 4matic, more interior color options, etc).
The price is set by the market and MB will lower the price when Canadians stop buying the car.
Also, your assumption that US cars have more in them then Canadian cars is false. The W204 in Canada has many more standard and optional features then in the US (ex. Keyless go, memory seats, 350 4matic, more interior color options, etc).
The price is set by the market and MB will lower the price when Canadians stop buying the car.
I highly doubt they will drop our prices, it'll create havoc on the resale values of previously purchased vehichles, what I think may happen is they may lower our price by a little bit and increase the US side.
I just wished the class action law suite included mercedes benz as well
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I said you had more before, i meant before our dollar reached parity...and it isn't an assumption it's been proven over and over again in the past this is just a recent change
I highly doubt they will drop our prices, it'll create havoc on the resale values of previously purchased vehichles, what I think may happen is they may lower our price by a little bit and increase the US side.
I just wished the class action law suite included mercedes benz as well
I highly doubt they will drop our prices, it'll create havoc on the resale values of previously purchased vehichles, what I think may happen is they may lower our price by a little bit and increase the US side.
I just wished the class action law suite included mercedes benz as well
Keep in mind that Mercedes incurs higher overhead cost per vehicle in Canada, because it is a far smaller market, so you can't expect MB and their dealers to charge the same price as U.S. even if both countries were under a single unified currency. MB sells around 18,000 units per year in Canada, but in the U.S., they sell 250,000 units, not to mention probably a lot higher percentages of higher-end models. So when CAD was weaker against Euro, rather than charging a lot, MB simply offered less features.
Hey, if I were a Canadian living on the border, I'd be a little upset that there's all these rules to prevent me from crossing the border and buying the same car for 20% less. But ultimately, cars aren't the same as other goods.
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Take a very simple example:
Driving over the Ambassador Bridge from Canada to the USA costs CAN Dollar $ 3.50 or USA Dollar $ 3.00. Is that parity? That is our government.
Jorg
Driving over the Ambassador Bridge from Canada to the USA costs CAN Dollar $ 3.50 or USA Dollar $ 3.00. Is that parity? That is our government.
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what's up with that and I found that alot in that mall
It's not fair for Canadian who some like me(ontario) Have a big 15% tax on items as well. Gas is also like 20cents diff.
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Sorry just my 2cents on that boarder crossing, I just recently went buffalo(galleria mall) at starbucks i asked if they perfer US or CND money since it's almost even while buying coffee. She says it doesn't matter so i pay CND. They didn't convert at $1.03 they did it at .70c what's up with that and I found that alot in that mall
It's not fair for Canadian who some like me(ontario) Have a big 15% tax on items as well. Gas is also like 20cents diff.
what's up with that and I found that alot in that mall It's not fair for Canadian who some like me(ontario) Have a big 15% tax on items as well. Gas is also like 20cents diff.
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Sorry just my 2cents on that boarder crossing, I just recently went buffalo(galleria mall) at starbucks i asked if they perfer US or CND money since it's almost even while buying coffee. She says it doesn't matter so i pay CND. They didn't convert at $1.03 they did it at .70c what's up with that and I found that alot in that mall
It's not fair for Canadian who some like me(ontario) Have a big 15% tax on items as well. Gas is also like 20cents diff.
what's up with that and I found that alot in that mall It's not fair for Canadian who some like me(ontario) Have a big 15% tax on items as well. Gas is also like 20cents diff.
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We crossed at the Peace Bridge and paid the toll in USD.
Saved $0.50. w00t!If you're going to the US a lot... consider getting a USD credit card. BMO's been pushing it.
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Why does it matter what car cost in relation to EURO? Do Canadians and Americans have to go to bank and get their money converted to EURO, because Mercedes dealers in Canada and America only accept EURO?
Forget what Americans are paying. Yes Mercedes is selling C350 for 21% LESS in the U.S. at $37,725 (instead of $48,039 you suggested). But Americans are NOT getting that 21% off. We're still paying the same amount we did 5 years ago, and so are the Canadians. Mercedes is taking that 21% hit because they would be priced out. Do you not agree with this?
Forget what Americans are paying. Yes Mercedes is selling C350 for 21% LESS in the U.S. at $37,725 (instead of $48,039 you suggested). But Americans are NOT getting that 21% off. We're still paying the same amount we did 5 years ago, and so are the Canadians. Mercedes is taking that 21% hit because they would be priced out. Do you not agree with this?
