Another tool (s) we need
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'08 C300 Lux Barolo Red Beige Leather P2 MM 18" wheels '84 944
Another tool (s) we need
Anyone who has tried to use the wheel wrench in the factory toolkit knows how nearly useless it is. The way to make wheel installations easier is to purchase, in 1/2 drive, the three tools shown in the photo. These three items probably cost (at Sears) about $20.00.
17mm deep socket
6" extension
14" swivel bar
17mm deep socket
6" extension
14" swivel bar
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'08 C300 Lux Barolo Red Beige Leather P2 MM 18" wheels '84 944
Tols
<<Don't forget the extension breaker bar to get them loose in the first place.>>
Since it's described and is in the photo, I can't figure out why you made this post.
Since it's described and is in the photo, I can't figure out why you made this post.
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I don't know about you guys, but in CA, the freeways and roads are far too dangerous to be changing your tires on your own. The shoulders are too narrow, the freeways are running too fast on the slow lanes, and most of all, I'm not going to count on the potentially few hundred cars that pass you to be the safest drivers in the world.
I dunno - it just seems like it ain't worth losing my life over changing a tire.
I end up calling Roadside Assistance...at least they will park a big-*** yellow truck behind the car with it's lights rolling while the attendant changes my tire.
Sorry, I didn't mean to threadjack. Just lookin' out...
I dunno - it just seems like it ain't worth losing my life over changing a tire.
I end up calling Roadside Assistance...at least they will park a big-*** yellow truck behind the car with it's lights rolling while the attendant changes my tire.
Sorry, I didn't mean to threadjack. Just lookin' out...
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I loved this. ha-ha. I agree too. Some places have even less run offs than CA, trust me. However, you never know, I have been in places where there was room, and it was safe to change the tire.
Appreciate the thread, for thought. Maybe I should get this tuff.
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I don't know about you guys, but in CA, the freeways and roads are far too dangerous to be changing your tires on your own. The shoulders are too narrow, the freeways are running too fast on the slow lanes, and most of all, I'm not going to count on the potentially few hundred cars that pass you to be the safest drivers in the world.
I dunno - it just seems like it ain't worth losing my life over changing a tire.
I end up calling Roadside Assistance...at least they will park a big-*** yellow truck behind the car with it's lights rolling while the attendant changes my tire.
Sorry, I didn't mean to threadjack. Just lookin' out...
I dunno - it just seems like it ain't worth losing my life over changing a tire.
I end up calling Roadside Assistance...at least they will park a big-*** yellow truck behind the car with it's lights rolling while the attendant changes my tire.
Sorry, I didn't mean to threadjack. Just lookin' out...
Like hell I was going to change my own damn tire on the 405 freeway in Santa Monica lol. Pulled over, called MBUSA roadside and they got towed to the dealer so he could install a new tire. Stupid tire in a can wouldn't work, sidewall was busted.
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08 C350 Sport, Palladium Silver, Black Leather, P2, MM
Anyone who has tried to use the wheel wrench in the factory toolkit knows how nearly useless it is. The way to make wheel installations easier is to purchase, in 1/2 drive, the three tools shown in the photo. These three items probably cost (at Sears) about $20.00.
17mm deep socket
6" extension
14" swivel bar
17mm deep socket
6" extension
14" swivel bar
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'14 GLK250 Diesel
Sorry, no substitute for a mid-priced torque wrench - no need for breaker bars, etc.
I just bought another for about $50 online [so I can carry one in each car] - that and the appropriate socket is all you need.
Failing to properly torque the wheel bolts after changing a wheel can result in brake rotor warping....which is why I started carrying a decent torque wrench over 20 years ago in all our cars.
AND.... I never drive away from the dealer or a tire shop without checking all the bolts for correct torque with my torque wrench - then you never have to worry about not being able to get a bolt loosened later.
I just bought another for about $50 online [so I can carry one in each car] - that and the appropriate socket is all you need.
Failing to properly torque the wheel bolts after changing a wheel can result in brake rotor warping....which is why I started carrying a decent torque wrench over 20 years ago in all our cars.
AND.... I never drive away from the dealer or a tire shop without checking all the bolts for correct torque with my torque wrench - then you never have to worry about not being able to get a bolt loosened later.
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'08 C300 Lux Barolo Red Beige Leather P2 MM 18" wheels '84 944
Torque
[QUOTE=jrct9454;2619998]Sorry, no substitute for a mid-priced torque wrench - no need for breaker bars, etc. I just bought another for about $50 online [so I can carry one in each car] - that and the appropriate socket is all you need.>>
You never loosen a fastener with a torque wrench unless you want to ruin it.
You never loosen a fastener with a torque wrench unless you want to ruin it.
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2008 W204
I don't know about you guys, but in CA, the freeways and roads are far too dangerous to be changing your tires on your own. The shoulders are too narrow, the freeways are running too fast on the slow lanes, and most of all, I'm not going to count on the potentially few hundred cars that pass you to be the safest drivers in the world.
I dunno - it just seems like it ain't worth losing my life over changing a tire.
I end up calling Roadside Assistance...at least they will park a big-*** yellow truck behind the car with it's lights rolling while the attendant changes my tire.
Sorry, I didn't mean to threadjack. Just lookin' out...
I dunno - it just seems like it ain't worth losing my life over changing a tire.
I end up calling Roadside Assistance...at least they will park a big-*** yellow truck behind the car with it's lights rolling while the attendant changes my tire.
Sorry, I didn't mean to threadjack. Just lookin' out...
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'14 GLK250 Diesel
96 ft-lbs. [Up significantly from the W203....]
And I've been using a torque wrench to both loosen and tighten the wheel bolts on all our cars for the past 20 years, and have never damaged the wrench. I've calibrated our wrench against those used by our regular tire shop, and we're always within about 4-5% [within the accuracy guarantee of the tool maker].
In any case, the ABSOLUTE torque number is much less important than getting all five bolts torqued to the same number - it's the variance around the five bolts that can cause rotor warpage. The difference between having all five at 90 ft-lbs or all five at 100 ft-lbs is not going to hurt anything, but having one or two bolts significantly different is a recipe for a ruined rotor.
And I've been using a torque wrench to both loosen and tighten the wheel bolts on all our cars for the past 20 years, and have never damaged the wrench. I've calibrated our wrench against those used by our regular tire shop, and we're always within about 4-5% [within the accuracy guarantee of the tool maker].
In any case, the ABSOLUTE torque number is much less important than getting all five bolts torqued to the same number - it's the variance around the five bolts that can cause rotor warpage. The difference between having all five at 90 ft-lbs or all five at 100 ft-lbs is not going to hurt anything, but having one or two bolts significantly different is a recipe for a ruined rotor.
Last edited by jrct9454; Jan 28, 2008 at 04:59 PM.
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Holy thread revival, Batman! 
I haven't had any issues doing this too.
I also carry around a low range torque wrench (for other things around the car/home) since I can't rely on the high range ones doing a proper job in the low end.
96 ft-lbs. [Up significantly from the W203....]
And I've been using a torque wrench to both loosen and tighten the wheel bolts on all our cars for the past 20 years, and have never damaged the wrench. I've calibrated our wrench against those used by our regular tire shop, and we're always within about 4-5% [within the accuracy guarantee of the tool maker].
In any case, the ABSOLUTE torque number is much less important than getting all five bolts torqued to the same number - it's the variance around the five bolts that can cause rotor warpage. The difference between having all five at 90 ft-lbs or all five at 100 ft-lbs is not going to hurt anything, but having one or two bolts significantly different is a recipe for a ruined rotor.
And I've been using a torque wrench to both loosen and tighten the wheel bolts on all our cars for the past 20 years, and have never damaged the wrench. I've calibrated our wrench against those used by our regular tire shop, and we're always within about 4-5% [within the accuracy guarantee of the tool maker].
In any case, the ABSOLUTE torque number is much less important than getting all five bolts torqued to the same number - it's the variance around the five bolts that can cause rotor warpage. The difference between having all five at 90 ft-lbs or all five at 100 ft-lbs is not going to hurt anything, but having one or two bolts significantly different is a recipe for a ruined rotor.
I haven't had any issues doing this too.I also carry around a low range torque wrench (for other things around the car/home) since I can't rely on the high range ones doing a proper job in the low end.
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2007 W204 220CDI Classic Sedan
Anyone who has tried to use the wheel wrench in the factory toolkit knows how nearly useless it is. The way to make wheel installations easier is to purchase, in 1/2 drive, the three tools shown in the photo. These three items probably cost (at Sears) about $20.00.
17mm deep socket
6" extension
14" swivel bar
17mm deep socket
6" extension
14" swivel bar
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From: Woodstock, GA. USA
w204-C300
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you can safely get the wheel back on but you really need to confirm that each bolt is torqued correctly sooner rather than later. If they are different, it is likely to cause your brake rotors to warp (especially once you get them hot as they are much more likely to warp when cooling down) A properly torqued wheel will almost ensure never having to deal with warped rotors.
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you can safely get the wheel back on but you really need to confirm that each bolt is torqued correctly sooner rather than later. If they are different, it is likely to cause your brake rotors to warp (especially once you get them hot as they are much more likely to warp when cooling down) A properly torqued wheel will almost ensure never having to deal with warped rotors.
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By using a tool called a 'torque wrench' which will tighten nuts or bolts to a pre-set torque or tightness. These tools come in different torque ranges & it is best to use the one which fits the mid range of the application. They are a precision tool so it is best that they are used & cared for properly. They are not normally used for loosening bolts.
See Wikipedia :-
http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache...lnk&cd=1&gl=au
See Wikipedia :-
http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache...lnk&cd=1&gl=au
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w204-C300
By using a tool called a 'torque wrench' which will tighten nuts or bolts to a pre-set torque or tightness. These tools come in different torque ranges & it is best to use the one which fits the mid range of the application. They are a precision tool so it is best that they are used & cared for properly. They are not normally used for loosening bolts.
See Wikipedia :-
http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache...lnk&cd=1&gl=au
See Wikipedia :-
http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache...lnk&cd=1&gl=au
I just need one that is not too expensive, but will do the job perfectly..
Thanks for the help guys. I already used the wrench that came with the car yesterday, to take off one of the wheels. I don't want to damage the rotor or anything like that.
