W204 Owners...why get a new W204 over an 06 CLS Sport
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I was in the same boat.I almost picked up a used CLS prior or buying a C300 4matic. What stopped me was the back seat. I'm only 5'10" and I would slam my head on the car when I was getting in and out of the back seat. The other reason for not getting the CLS is the amazing blind stops. You could almost hide a SUV in the blind spot, maybe I had the mirrors set wrong.
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First watch the cussing bro.. IM only stating what i have heard so no need for the language. And if u look at what i said i never said anything about the cls being on a sebring chasis.. I said the c-300 is on a sebring chasis and the thing i said about the cls is that it was engineered by the crhysler people not anything about what chasis its sits on.. And this is what ive been told. So before you call me a fn retard and a tool read what i said correctly..
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First watch the cussing bro.. IM only stating what i have heard so no need for the language. And if u look at what i said i never said anything about the cls being on a sebring chasis.. I said the c-300 is on a sebring chasis and the thing i said about the cls is that it was engineered by the crhysler people not anything about what chasis its sits on.. And this is what ive been told. So before you call me a fn retard and a tool read what i said correctly..
As for the C class (W204) it too has its ow chasis and electronics and nothing in common with the Sebring. The Sebring is FWD for starters and doesn't have a nut/bolt or switch or sensor in common with the C class. Where the hell do you get your information?
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The CLS was not designed by Chrysler engineers dude. The car was designed 100% in Germany buddy. Trust me I own one. All the electronics, sheet metal, chasis is all German.
As for the C class (W204) it too has its ow chasis and electronics and nothing in common with the Sebring. The Sebring is FWD for starters and doesn't have a nut/bolt or switch or sensor in common with the C class. Where the hell do you get your information?
As for the C class (W204) it too has its ow chasis and electronics and nothing in common with the Sebring. The Sebring is FWD for starters and doesn't have a nut/bolt or switch or sensor in common with the C class. Where the hell do you get your information?
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The CLS was not designed by Chrysler engineers dude. The car was designed 100% in Germany buddy. Trust me I own one. All the electronics, sheet metal, chasis is all German.
As for the C class (W204) it too has its ow chasis and electronics and nothing in common with the Sebring. The Sebring is FWD for starters and doesn't have a nut/bolt or switch or sensor in common with the C class. Where the hell do you get your information?
As for the C class (W204) it too has its ow chasis and electronics and nothing in common with the Sebring. The Sebring is FWD for starters and doesn't have a nut/bolt or switch or sensor in common with the C class. Where the hell do you get your information?
Did some research of my own and theres a whole article on mb and chrysler sharing parts.
http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/dir...ew/.f0e26f2/10
Heres another. And this quote kinda puts more sense into it.
Perhaps borrowing an idea from Mercedes' sister automaker, Chrysler Group, the designers also gave the CLS the short-window/high-beltline treatment of the Chrysler 300 and Dodge Magnum. And to advance the illusion of a coupe, they put a pronounced arc to the roofline that gives the car's hindquarters much the look of a fastback.
link: http://www.pe.com/lifestyles/stories...28.bcb8dc.html
Heres a big one that almost justifies it. The quote:
LY is the platform code for the second-generation LX cars (an unfortunate designation!); this basic platfom, which like the LX uses a Mercedes-style suspension with Chrysler engineering for better driving dynamics, higher reliability, and strong cost savings, will be used on the Mercedes E, CLS, and R classes, starting in, depending on the model, 2010 to 2012 (according to a supplier).
Link: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...1230730AAfMoXJ
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Joining the CLS in Mercedes showrooms is an all-new M-class sport utility that rides on a uni-body chassis instead of a truck-based ladder frame. A groundbreaking wagon/minivan/SUV vehicle called the R-class also will be built in Alabama alongside the M-class. The new R is a svelte looking sportwagon/ luxury mobile that promises to be everything that the Chrysler Pacifica is not: agile, powerful and roomy.
Just something to think about too. link for the above quote:
http://www.ellsworthamerican.com/arc..._08-25-05.html
Just something to think about too. link for the above quote:
http://www.ellsworthamerican.com/arc..._08-25-05.html
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This one proves my point about the cls. See what a lil research can do? Quote from below link:
The next generation of Mercedes and Chrysler cars will share even more components than they do today, according to Edmunds. Citing supplier sources, the report indicates Mercedes will use the new ‘LY’ platform for the 2010 E-Class, 2012 R-Class, and 2012 CLS-Class. The LY platform is widely expected to underpin the Dodge Challenger and Chrysler Imperial, as well as the next-generation Chrysler 300C, Dodge Magnum and Dodge Charger. Another common platform will be used for the post-2010 Jeep Grand Cherokee and Commander and well as the next Mercedes ML-Class, suppliers say.
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http://www.leftlanenews.com/more-pla...-chrysler.html
The next generation of Mercedes and Chrysler cars will share even more components than they do today, according to Edmunds. Citing supplier sources, the report indicates Mercedes will use the new ‘LY’ platform for the 2010 E-Class, 2012 R-Class, and 2012 CLS-Class. The LY platform is widely expected to underpin the Dodge Challenger and Chrysler Imperial, as well as the next-generation Chrysler 300C, Dodge Magnum and Dodge Charger. Another common platform will be used for the post-2010 Jeep Grand Cherokee and Commander and well as the next Mercedes ML-Class, suppliers say.
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http://www.leftlanenews.com/more-pla...-chrysler.html
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dunn,
All of what you posted is not factual and never explicitly states the CLS was engineered by chrysler. The one article you are "banking" on from the IE says PERHAPS borrowed from chrysler. Sorry to tell you bud, Chrysler didn't design the CLS.
LY chassis for 2010? The companies split and the R-class shares most of its components with the ML and GL not the E and CLS. The R and CLS are totally different.
Here are some FACTS about the CLS, german engineered.
http://wikicars.org/en/Mercedes-Benz_CLS-Class
All of what you posted is not factual and never explicitly states the CLS was engineered by chrysler. The one article you are "banking" on from the IE says PERHAPS borrowed from chrysler. Sorry to tell you bud, Chrysler didn't design the CLS.
LY chassis for 2010? The companies split and the R-class shares most of its components with the ML and GL not the E and CLS. The R and CLS are totally different.
Here are some FACTS about the CLS, german engineered.
http://wikicars.org/en/Mercedes-Benz_CLS-Class
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08 c300
dunn,
All of what you posted is not factual and never explicitly states the CLS was engineered by chrysler. The one article you are "banking" on from the IE says PERHAPS borrowed from chrysler. Sorry to tell you bud, Chrysler didn't design the CLS.
LY chassis for 2010? The companies split and the R-class shares most of its components with the ML and GL not the E and CLS. The R and CLS are totally different.
All of what you posted is not factual and never explicitly states the CLS was engineered by chrysler. The one article you are "banking" on from the IE says PERHAPS borrowed from chrysler. Sorry to tell you bud, Chrysler didn't design the CLS.
LY chassis for 2010? The companies split and the R-class shares most of its components with the ML and GL not the E and CLS. The R and CLS are totally different.
If it is false then im gonna have a long talk with my friends....
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Please read the link i posted above.
"IVM Automotive, a subsidiary of German roof system specialist Edscha, developed the entire vehicle from the Vision concept to the production version. More than 150 IVM engineers were involved, making the CLS the largest vehicle development project in the company's history. "
"IVM Automotive, a subsidiary of German roof system specialist Edscha, developed the entire vehicle from the Vision concept to the production version. More than 150 IVM engineers were involved, making the CLS the largest vehicle development project in the company's history. "
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And i was mistaken about our cars sitting on a sebring chasis. It was partially designed by chrysler and they took similiar ideas from the new sebring.. If you look at our car and the new sebring they look kinda similiar.. Its freaky and theres a lot of threads on this if you just google the new c class and the sebring
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Please read the link i posted above.
"IVM Automotive, a subsidiary of German roof system specialist Edscha, developed the entire vehicle from the Vision concept to the production version. More than 150 IVM engineers were involved, making the CLS the largest vehicle development project in the company's history. "
"IVM Automotive, a subsidiary of German roof system specialist Edscha, developed the entire vehicle from the Vision concept to the production version. More than 150 IVM engineers were involved, making the CLS the largest vehicle development project in the company's history. "
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Please read the link i posted above.
"IVM Automotive, a subsidiary of German roof system specialist Edscha, developed the entire vehicle from the Vision concept to the production version. More than 150 IVM engineers were involved, making the CLS the largest vehicle development project in the company's history. "
"IVM Automotive, a subsidiary of German roof system specialist Edscha, developed the entire vehicle from the Vision concept to the production version. More than 150 IVM engineers were involved, making the CLS the largest vehicle development project in the company's history. "
This still doesnt prove whether or not chrysler had a hand in it. Since chysler was a part of mercedes cause of daimler it still can mean they used some there chrysler engineers to take part in the design and construction.
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here's the bottom line: Mercedes never used any Chrysler parts to build their cars. Heck ...new hyundai's kind of look like lexus', so would you automatically assume that they share the same parts?
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first off hyundai and lexus arrnt owned by the same company. If your gonna compare something please make sure its the same company. So your comment has nothing to do with it. And you dont have any proof that merecdes has never used chrysler for any construction or design on mb vehicles.. As a corporation it would be a hell of alot more cost effective to do that. Thast why they merged and used simliar ideas and designs. To make it more cost effective. am i wrong?
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<<The new R is a svelte looking sportwagon/ luxury mobile that promises to be everything that the Chrysler Pacifica is not: agile, powerful and roomy. >>>
And saleproof. The R-Class is a flop. The dealers use them as courtesy vehicles since they can't sell the things. Too big, too ugly and too expensive. When's the last time you saw one on the road?
BTW, all this data you are quoting appears to be about two years old.
And saleproof. The R-Class is a flop. The dealers use them as courtesy vehicles since they can't sell the things. Too big, too ugly and too expensive. When's the last time you saw one on the road?
BTW, all this data you are quoting appears to be about two years old.
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first off hyundai and lexus arrnt owned by the same company. If your gonna compare something please make sure its the same company. So your comment has nothing to do with it. And you dont have any proof that merecdes has never used chrysler for any construction or design on mb vehicles.. As a corporation it would be a hell of alot more cost effective to do that. Thast why they merged and used simliar ideas and designs. To make it more cost effective. am i wrong?anyways lets get not get off-topic here
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Gorgeous car, though, in the right color.
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As previously noted, the size of the cars is different, as is the accessibility of the back seat. We chose the C class based on these differences. We have to be able to get the kids in and out of their child seats in the back. Not to mention that the CLS wouldn't fit in one of our parking spots. (Parking spots are expensive in Japanese cities.)
Either car is a nice ride. I love the way the CLS looks. What a beautiful car.
Either car is a nice ride. I love the way the CLS looks. What a beautiful car.
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i am surprised with the number of people on this board that lack any common knowledge whatsoever. Arguing on the internet is like arguing with a retard, its a losing battle.
Dunn, believe what you will but Chrysler had NOTHING to do with the CLS or W204, or the R class. Its been a one way streak of MBZ platforms and parts going to Chrysler. Enjoy the C300 but I am done arguing with you. Believe your uneducated friends and be safe.
Dunn, believe what you will but Chrysler had NOTHING to do with the CLS or W204, or the R class. Its been a one way streak of MBZ platforms and parts going to Chrysler. Enjoy the C300 but I am done arguing with you. Believe your uneducated friends and be safe.
