Brembo Calipers Available For '09 C300 (w204)?
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In order to go with a brembo caliper, you would need to replace the rotors also which would make it a full Brembo GT kit.
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Sorry to see Mercedes cheaping out on the calipers over the years.
In 2004 it was 4 piston AMG on the sport option
In 2005 they went to a 2 piston fixed
In 2008 they went to a 1 piston sliding with a stupid looking painted plate trying to fool those that are not in the know
It amazes me that as important the looks of the wheels, that manufactures pay little attention to the caliper looks unless you are spending $60,000+. This is especially important in today's wide open style wheels with thin spokes etc. It would ok if it was at least painted or powder coated (still does not give you the performance of a fixed caliper) but in my climate with the tons of salt on the road after 1 year you have this ugly rusty piece of iron peaking out through the wheels.
Mercedes is not the only culprit, BMW has these ugly sliding calipers on all their models except for the 135 with the M package where is it s 6 pot fixed those with the M3 don't even get it. Look at almost every Japanese car and you have these rusty hunks of iron.
I think we have to blame the bean counters trying to save every penny
In 2004 it was 4 piston AMG on the sport option
In 2005 they went to a 2 piston fixed
In 2008 they went to a 1 piston sliding with a stupid looking painted plate trying to fool those that are not in the know
It amazes me that as important the looks of the wheels, that manufactures pay little attention to the caliper looks unless you are spending $60,000+. This is especially important in today's wide open style wheels with thin spokes etc. It would ok if it was at least painted or powder coated (still does not give you the performance of a fixed caliper) but in my climate with the tons of salt on the road after 1 year you have this ugly rusty piece of iron peaking out through the wheels.
Mercedes is not the only culprit, BMW has these ugly sliding calipers on all their models except for the 135 with the M package where is it s 6 pot fixed those with the M3 don't even get it. Look at almost every Japanese car and you have these rusty hunks of iron.
I think we have to blame the bean counters trying to save every penny
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Sorry to see Mercedes cheaping out on the calipers over the years.
In 2004 it was 4 piston AMG on the sport option
In 2005 they went to a 2 piston fixed
In 2008 they went to a 1 piston sliding with a stupid looking painted plate trying to fool those that are not in the know
It amazes me that as important the looks of the wheels, that manufactures pay little attention to the caliper looks unless you are spending $60,000+. This is especially important in today's wide open style wheels with thin spokes etc. It would ok if it was at least painted or powder coated (still does not give you the performance of a fixed caliper) but in my climate with the tons of salt on the road after 1 year you have this ugly rusty piece of iron peaking out through the wheels.
Mercedes is not the only culprit, BMW has these ugly sliding calipers on all their models except for the 135 with the M package where is it s 6 pot fixed those with the M3 don't even get it. Look at almost every Japanese car and you have these rusty hunks of iron.
I think we have to blame the bean counters trying to save every penny
In 2004 it was 4 piston AMG on the sport option
In 2005 they went to a 2 piston fixed
In 2008 they went to a 1 piston sliding with a stupid looking painted plate trying to fool those that are not in the know
It amazes me that as important the looks of the wheels, that manufactures pay little attention to the caliper looks unless you are spending $60,000+. This is especially important in today's wide open style wheels with thin spokes etc. It would ok if it was at least painted or powder coated (still does not give you the performance of a fixed caliper) but in my climate with the tons of salt on the road after 1 year you have this ugly rusty piece of iron peaking out through the wheels.
Mercedes is not the only culprit, BMW has these ugly sliding calipers on all their models except for the 135 with the M package where is it s 6 pot fixed those with the M3 don't even get it. Look at almost every Japanese car and you have these rusty hunks of iron.
I think we have to blame the bean counters trying to save every penny
also BMW M has always used either 2 or sliding calipers on the M3 and M5 and they stopped nothing short of AMAZING.
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True, but track a car and the difference is noticeable. Biggest problem an M3 has when you do some track lapping, the brakes turn to mush. No race car would use a float because they would be done in a couple of hot laps.
Disadvantages:
-Not as heat-resistant as fixed calipers
-loss of braking feel
-heavier unsprung weight (bulky cast iron vs machined alloy)
Advantages
-cheaper
-simpler to maintain EXCEPT for those that live in areas where salt is used then more attention must be paid to ensure the sliding pins are clean and lubed and the sliding plates that the pad rests on is clean and free and not bound up by the rusting of the casting below that will squeeze the pad not allowing it to slide properly
-less parts
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'08 C300 Lux Barolo Red Beige Leather P2 MM 18" wheels '84 944
Weight
Don't get carried away, here. Shocks and a-arms are not unsprung weight since they are mounted to the body and I haven't seen a kingpin on a modern MB for a while.
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Kingpin:
The kingpin is the main pivot in the steering mechanism of a car or other vehicle. Originally this was literally a steel pin on which the moveable, steerable wheel was mounted to the suspension ... No longer restricted to moving like a pin, the part was not necessarily still called a king pin; but in newer designs, the term may be used not for an actual pin but the axis around which the steered wheels pivot.
Unsprung weight:
Unsprung weight includes the mass of components such as the wheel axles, wheel bearings, tires, and a portion of the weight of driveshafts, springs, shock absorbers, and suspension links. If the vehicle's brakes are mounted outboard (i.e., within the wheel), their weight is also part of the unsprung weight.
So, There's a LOT of unsprung weight on our cars ...
The photo (not a w204, but a modern Mercedes) shows the Kingpin as the area between the upper and lower arm that forms the axis on which the wheel rotates.
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Does anyone know what the difference is between these two calipers posted by Azn300 and Poleposition
![](https://mbworld.org/forums/attachments/c-class-w204/141685d1224209466-brembo-calipers-available-09-c300-w204-untitled.jpg)
https://mbworld.org/forums/attachmen...4-dsc07477.jpg
Please open the above link for a larger picture of the red caliper, Thanks.
![](https://mbworld.org/forums/attachments/c-class-w204/141685d1224209466-brembo-calipers-available-09-c300-w204-untitled.jpg)
https://mbworld.org/forums/attachmen...4-dsc07477.jpg
Please open the above link for a larger picture of the red caliper, Thanks.
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There's clearly a difference in the way that the calipers look. My guess is that one is a picture from a C300 and the other from a C350. The C350 has larger brakes.
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On a separate note, does anyone know if the 6/4pot combi of the Brembo BBK will fit behind the 18" AMG 5-spoke rims? or would i need to go +1 on my rims ?
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